Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #17

[visioneye]

Yes I agree. What more do the public need to be told? Even if there was no gag on them they have stated they still would not go public to protect their other child. I respect that. There has been controlled media releases from the police to help find him. We coach a local football team and many parents will not allow photos used publicly to protect their children due to domestic situations and I guarantee if the parents went public some horrible media would show their daughter. We all know William had a rough start as it has been stated so why does everyone have to keep the pressure on about disclosing themselves.


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I think this is exactly why the media really want to break this story.. it will be internet breaking ..but will still not bring William back

 

[Makara]

Perhaps this is a stupid question although how are journalists (or anyone) advised of court suppression orders? Are these suppression rulings available somewhere?

As otherwise I can't see how anyone (in general not on Websleuths) can legally be prohibited from publishing an article/free speech if they do not know that someone (a judge I presume) has decided that that particular information is not allowed to be published in the first place?

All newspapers are advised by their own legal eagles, especially in 'hot' cases such as William's. The newspaper's legal representatives would be advised or would seek out the information on what is a no go zone.

 

[Makara]

MOD ALERT: There is to be further speculation or discussion on William's surname. The misspelling of his surname early in the case is incidental and in no way detracted from the police investigation. We know him as William Tyrrell and the world knows him as William Tyrrell. That is enough.

Thank you.

 

[louisepiglet]

This is totally ridiculous. Poor little William will never be found if ALL the information is not shared.

 

[Found]

This is totally ridiculous. Poor little William will never be found if ALL the information is not shared.

What more information do you think the public need to know and how will it help William?


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[Makara]

This is totally ridiculous. Poor little William will never be found if ALL the information is not shared.

No, it's not ridiculous. The suppression orders have been put in place for a reason, whether we agree with them or not. The police are in charge of this case, not the public and they are not obligated to share anything at all with the public. The police are privy to what the suppression orders contain and I can't see how those suppression orders have hindered the investigation in any way at all.

 

[Found]

No, it's not ridiculous. The suppression orders have been put in place for a reason, whether we agree with them or not. The police are in charge of this case, not the public and they are not obligated to share anything at all with the public. The police are privy to what the suppression orders contain and I can't see how those suppression orders have hindered the investigation in any way at all.

It's frustrating and awful William has not been found. I just think as people are upset they want to lay blame. I do not belief actions of police, governments or families have hindered the investigation. The parents interview confirms this I believe. They are clearly heartbroken.


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[Froglady]

Pretty sure the police know all they need to know and that's all that matters.

 

[louisepiglet]

Pretty sure the police know all they need to know and that's all that matters.

They obviously dont know all they need to know because William is still missing.
IMO
William's disappearance is not to do with peodophilia. The two POIs were involved in his abduction because of their criminal backgrounds and certain connections. IMO William's family situation has everything to do with his abduction. IMO

 

[Makara]

They obviously dont know all they need to know because William is still missing.
IMO
William's disappearance is not to do with peodophilia. The two POIs were involved in his abduction because of their criminal backgrounds and certain connections. IMO William's family situation has everything to do with his abduction. IMO

Do you have anything to substantiate this? If you've found something that may be useful to the police, let them know.

 

[Makara]

They obviously dont know all they need to know because William is still missing.
IMO
William's disappearance is not to do with peodophilia. The two POIs were involved in his abduction because of their criminal backgrounds and certain connections. IMO William's family situation has everything to do with his abduction. IMO

Adding to this, you say that the two POI's were involved in William's abduction. Neither of them have been charged. They are simply persons of interest and there are quite a few other persons of interest that we know nothing about.

It has been stated many times that William's family and extended family have been cleared by the police and that is what we go with here.

 

[Puggle]

Has he? I have only seen the one set of charges against him which is what ended with his sentencing. Any links?

Really?

Do I need to provide a link to what we have all been discussing and what is common knowledge???

He has admitted to the offences...he was molesting a 11 year old girl.. His been convicted and sentenced!!

What else do you require to qualify him as a Paedophile???

As most may be aware I was the victim of a "Tony Jones"!!! type character......so please excuse me at taking offence to your request of a link...when his (Tony Jones) offences are common knowledge and well LINKED on this thread...

 

[Puggle]

I completely understand playing the role of devils advocate...and love when someone stands up to be the voice of reason in a crowd ... no pitchforks in my chemistry at all....I have repeatedly stated if Bll Spedding is not found to be connected in the long run...then the greatest injustice to him and his family has been done...the media have affectively ruined his life...BUT...scum such as Tony Jones has admitted?? why...because we have the weakest and most slackest laws in the world when it comes to paedophile behaviour.....that's why they come to our shores to abuse our own (all factual - search on the internet) <modsnip>

 

[Acamelia]

What if it were the MO of someone outside the realms of Williams family both bio that wanted the FP to lose custody? For multiple reasons....
Pure speculation but not about any of the parents; or GM for clarification.
William lived 2hrs away from Kendall. Only when William entered back into local ground did he go missing.
If true, as stated, did WT live opposite a POI in say Wagga?

This is what I'm feeling

 

[MsDee]

This is totally ridiculous. Poor little William will never be found if ALL the information is not shared.

Why is that? Because the general public can do the job better than the police?

You do realise, that in any case there is a fair chunk of info you never hear about?

I believe all these suppression orders would have made it harder for police, but to say that William will not be found if we don't hear about every last details is simply not true, and a discredit to the police.

However, I am hoping there will be a parliamentary enquiry into this when it is all done and dusted, and if it is found that the level of suppression was simply a CYA exercise and not in Williams nor the family's best interests, then those parties that instigated all the secrecy should be taken to task over it.

 

[Eloise]

<Modsnip>

Why is that? Because the general public can do the job better than the police?

You do realise, that in any case there is a fair chunk of info you never hear about?

I believe all these suppression orders would have made it harder for police, but to say that William will not be found if we don't hear about every last details is simply not true, and a discredit to the police.

I think the police would have access to all information. The suppression orders apply to information in the media, not information given to police. I doubt that we as the general public really need to know anything outside of what we already know. We all know what WT looks like - I'd say he's the most recognisable missing person in Australia right now - he's probably got a better chance than any other missing person of being found based on that alone. Everything else is good for curiosity value alone. If the police really need our help they'll ask for something specific (e.g. like identifying the cars)

 

[Karo]

My question was about the comment closet paedophile so, since his crime was the incident that he plead guilty to and one child, I don't understand the terminology as relates to him. Is there more? computer images? other children etc
No offence was intended to you personally, also you have no way of knowing what my personal experiences are and I don't feel that sharing them (by me) is conducive to the search for William..

Really?

Do I need to provide a link to what we have all been discussing and what is common knowledge???

He has admitted to the offences...he was molesting a 11 year old girl.. His been convicted and sentenced!!

What else do you require to qualify him as a Paedophile???

As most may be aware I was the victim of a "Tony Jones"!!! type character......so please excuse me at taking offence to your request of a link...when his (Tony Jones) offences are common knowledge and well LINKED on this thread...

 

[Bohemian]

Why is that? Because the general public can do the job better than the police?

You do realise, that in any case there is a fair chunk of info you never hear about?

I believe all these suppression orders would have made it harder for police, but to say that William will not be found if we don't hear about every last details is simply not true, and a discredit to the police.

However, I am hoping there will be a parliamentary enquiry into this when it is all done and dusted, and if it is found that the level of suppression was simply a CYA exercise and not in Williams nor the family's best interests, then those parties that instigated all the secrecy should be taken to task over it.

BBM.

I hope you don't mind me commenting on your reply to another poster.

I absolutely agree with you, Ms Dee.

This is the fear I hold; that NSW Police have had a difficult battle releasing relevant information to the public, in a timely manner through MSM, due to restrictions placed upon them by another government department. In any case, Strikeforce Rosann, under DI Jubelin, is more than capable of doing whatever it takes to find William. If they, William's family, or the NSW Coroner, have decided that certain information needs to be suppressed from the media; without pressure from any other 'stakeholder', then all well and good.

When this is all done and dusted; whatever the outcome for little William and his loved ones, I too would want an inquiry into what occurred after the fact in regard to the machinations of Government and non-Government organisations; other than LE. William's abduction, in the mere fact he was a fostered child, is unprecedented and as a NSW constituent, I want to know if it was handled properly by those organisations; if not, why not; and the lessons that can learned if, God forbid, there is another case like William's in the future.

 

[richieswan]

I'm finding it hard to solve this crime without all the facts. Might flick Jubes a text to ask for the files.

My opinion changes regularly on what happened, and I find all the posts very helpful. It must be torture to the families not knowing.

BS had a pawn shop probably loaded with old mobile phones. Would be easy to set one up on wifi and use internet messages to contact others without a trace (no SIM card needed, use a FB alias).

Just a brain dump while I'm on the train. Thinking of WT always. &#9748;&#65039;

 

[Karo]

Wasn't the pawn shop already closed down though?