Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #23

[Bohemian]

A police strikeforce, codenamed Rosann and consisting of 14 detectives and analysts, is working full-time on the search for William from a base in Port Macquarie, 35km from Kendall.
Given the scale of the operation, which has focused on people with links to the former timber town or William, it is possible detectives have already interviewed the person or persons involved.
Such is the workload that other detectives from several specialist squads within the NSW Police Force’s State Crime Command have been asked to investigate many persons of interest identified as low-priority targets by the strikeforce. The rest are being pursued by Rosann investigators.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...e/news-story/ef4adf3fa3d71f49585e74442f534b0a

Low priority targets.... which specialists units will be investigating them I do wonder?

Roseann will pursue the rest......and just how many is the rest?

Sex Crimes, Homicide, just off the top of my head. Wonder just how many suspected and/or convicted child sex offenders/traffickers/abductors/murderers are considered low priority targets? And, yes, soso, how many are high priority and just who the hell are they?

 

[stormyseas]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ell-identified-hundreds-persons-interest.html

Police said they want to talk to hundreds of people about William Tyrrell

Officers have recruited detectives from other stations to help investigate

I still can't get over the "hundreds" part. Something big is happening here. JMO

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It's amazing that there are hundreds of POIs.... especially considering how quiet Benaroon Drive happened to be on that fateful day. I wonder if "hundreds" implies the existence of a wider pedophile community? IMO

 

[sosocurious]

Sex Crimes, Homicide, just off the top of my head. Wonder just how many suspected and/or convicted child sex offenders/traffickers/abductors/murderers are considered low priority targets? And, yes, soso, how many are high priority and just who the hell are they?

Well homicide has had the lead from early on and sex crimes have been involved from the get goes.

With all that scrap being collected, cars being given away, business opening and closing, government housing applications.

I was thinking with so many poi and some just low level, that maybe the drugs, fraud, property and theft even the organised crime squads might be helping Roseann out.
imo

 

[Makara]

Well homicide has had the lead from early on and sex crimes have been involved from the get goes.

With all that scrap being collected, cars being given away, business opening and closing, government housing applications.

I was thinking with so many poi and some just low level, that maybe the drugs, fraud, property and theft even the organised crime squads might be helping Roseann out.
imo

BBM: That's correct Soso.

 

[Bohemian]

Well homicide has had the lead from early on and sex crimes have been involved from the get goes.

With all that scrap being collected, cars being given away, business opening and closing, government housing applications.

I was thinking with so many poi and some just low level, that maybe the drugs, fraud, property and theft even the organised crime squads might be helping Roseann out.
imo

Sorry, soso, didn't answer your question fully. Had a long night/day and needed a nap.

The NSW Police Force State Crime Command has 12 squads:

Fraud Squad
Drug Squad
Firearms and Regulated Industries Crime Squad
Asian Crime Squad
Sex Crimes Squad
Gangs
Homicide
Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad
Property
Robbery and Serious Crime Squad
Organised Crime (Targeting) Squad
Joint Investigation Response Squad

Strike Force Rosann has been promised all the resources they require by Mike Baird, so my guess is they will second everyone available from SCC squads who possess the necessary skillset. Which squads they come from may, or may not, be significant. Dear God, I don't care if they second the whole NSW Police Force, including Traffic Services; I just want William found so he can go home to his loved ones and they can see justice served.

 

[crabstick]

Col is Vietnam vet? But not a fridge collector?

Yes, that would be an interesting line of inquiry. Six degrees of separation.

 

[Bohemian]

Col is Vietnam vet? But not a fridge collector?

Know a little about Col but not if he collects anything...yet.

 

[Makara]

Col is Vietnam vet? But not a fridge collector?

Who knows what Col collects Crabby (say that three times fast, :floorlaugh but he has known BS for 30 something years and would probably know who he associated with all those years ago.

 

[sosocurious]

Back at the Kendall Sports Ground, a local dad tells you a story about a chat he had with a local cop friend. The fear, said this cop, was that potential pedophiles in these towns on the mid-north coast acted as out-of-town scouts for other out-of-town scouts. A network develops where, the dad says, “they don’t **** in their own back yard”.

Just a story, but the look on his face says it means more to him than that. “What do you do about that as a parent?”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ttle-boy-disappeared/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83
William Tyrrell: fear in Kendall where little boy disappeared

BBM

Sicko's

 

[Makara]

Back at the Kendall Sports Ground, a local dad tells you a story about a chat he had with a local cop friend. The fear, said this cop, was that potential pedophiles in these towns on the mid-north coast acted as out-of-town scouts for other out-of-town scouts. A network develops where, the dad says, “they don’t **** in their own back yard”.

Just a story, but the look on his face says it means more to him than that. “What do you do about that as a parent?”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ttle-boy-disappeared/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83

BBM

Sicko's

Thanks Soso. The link isn't taking me to your quoted article but I get the general drift. :furious:

 

[krig101]

Well, it's a little *ciugh* premature anyway...

Wishful thinking on the reporter's behalf [emoji1]

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[Deleted member 102539]

A police strikeforce, codenamed Rosann and consisting of 14 detectives and analysts, is working full-time on the search for William from a base in Port Macquarie, 35km from Kendall.
Given the scale of the operation, which has focused on people with links to the former timber town or William, it is possible detectives have already interviewed the person or persons involved.
Such is the workload that other detectives from several specialist squads within the NSW Police Force’s State Crime Command have been asked to investigate many persons of interest identified as low-priority targets by the strikeforce. The rest are being pursued by Rosann investigators.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...e/news-story/ef4adf3fa3d71f49585e74442f534b0a

Low priority targets.... which specialists units will be investigating them I do wonder?

Roseann will pursue the rest......and just how many is the rest?

The main thing would be: no one will escape because of his seemingly "low" priority, no one will escape who has high priority (and maybe has a false alibi etc.) and last not least no one will escape between these. Hopefully no PO/Det. has "connections" and will let slip someone who is involved or will let disappear evidence or records over the long time. lease: You have too much already read about such tactics, unfortunately.

 

[crabstick]

Thats a pretty fast dial a . Someone phoned someone, who turned up at the cafe looking for Benaroon dve? Someone used a bag of sim-less phones via snapchat to contact someone at a cafe WIFI? Everybody is in Cessnock max

Back at the Kendall Sports Ground, a local dad tells you a story about a chat he had with a local cop friend. The fear, said this cop, was that potential pedophiles in these towns on the mid-north coast acted as out-of-town scouts for other out-of-town scouts. A network develops where, the dad says, “they don’t **** in their own back yard”.

Just a story, but the look on his face says it means more to him than that. “What do you do about that as a parent?”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ttle-boy-disappeared/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83
William Tyrrell: fear in Kendall where little boy disappeared
BBM
Sicko's

I contemplated BS Vietnam???

Col collects Crabby, Col collects Crabby,, Col collects Crabby, I bit my tongue

Who knows what Col collects Crabby (say that three times fast, :floorlaugh but he has known BS for 30 something years and would probably know who he associated with all those years ago.

 

[ParaK]

Foster Care Queensland executive director Bryan Smith says Tia’s foster parents have had their hands tied by the Child Protection Act. “As parents, you and I, if we were getting really, really worried about our kids being missing, we could contact a newspaper, we could put them on Facebook, on YouTube, all kinds of things,” he says. “Foster and kinship carers will never do that because it’s simply not allowed without the director-general’s permission. It’s two years’ imprisonment for breaking the Act. *Carers are told very clearly that their hands are tied and to essentially sit on them and wait. It’s absolutely heart-wrenching. These kids are family members.”
How this legislation informed the actions of police in Tiahleigh’s search, Smith is less sure. “In matters such as this the director-general of, in this case, the *Department of Communities and the police commissioner are *talking to each other very quickly,” he says. “They make *decisions on what information is going to be published and when. The concern for us is that it was still a significant number of days before publishing anything. We don’t know what happened in that time and what inhibited [the process] for it not to be *published straight away.”
“There’s a great difficulty with kids in foster care,” says Hetty Johnston, founder and chair of national child protection advocacy group *Bravehearts. “The state, in effect, is their *parent. So, who talks? Do the foster parents? Does the relinquishing parent come out and speak up and risk the community unfairly throwing stuff at them like, ‘It’s your fault and this wouldn’t have happened if you were a better parent?’ Or is it the government’s role to talk to the media?”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/lif...y/news-story/2b730650eb869b1ab11a3bb7d75dae7d

Article from the same author of the William articles in The Australian. Many interesting quotes and interviews in the articles on Tialeigh's case and Williams. Alongside the comments shared from SoSo above, there were the comments from the local youth worker about "underlying issues" in the region? Are the underlying issues family/domestic/social issues? It didn't really explain in the article what that meant. The article that has been referenced multiple times above in The Australian (search 'fear in Kendall' to access articles) just leaves all these quotes from locals with more lingering questions.
Good to see investigations seeming to be ramping up and gaining momentum though, hoping for a massive breakthrough soon.

 

[Bethechange]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ell-identified-hundreds-persons-interest.html

Police said they want to talk to hundreds of people about William Tyrrell





Officers have recruited detectives from other stations to help investigate

I still can't get over the "hundreds" part. Something big is happening here. JMO

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daily mail captioned the photo of William with:
"As the second anniversary of William's death nears, NSW Premier Mike Baird has promised to provide police with any resources necessary"
do they know something we don't, or is this just more shyte reporting? also I don't recall BS being convicted?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Math isn't a talent of me at all but I try to count:

5 families for example

5 x 2 elderly spouses= 10 persons
plus each spouse with maybe 3 own children= 30 persons
plus the partner of each adult child= 30 persons
plus each pair with maybe 2 grown teenager children= 30 x 2= 60 persons

Based on only 5 families, that would be a total of ca. 130 individuals and one or more of them could have knowledge of something re William. - Please correct me if I'm wrong.

It would be nice to know how many members GAPA and the other group (member BS) had/has. Plus the pedos who weren't/aren't member of one or the other group but living in the larger Kendall area (incl. their family members). Oh yes, I think of "hundreds" police would have to check ..... :waiting: -------> :copcar:

 

[Bohemian]

Foster Care Queensland executive director Bryan Smith says Tia’s foster parents have had their hands tied by the Child Protection Act. “As parents, you and I, if we were getting really, really worried about our kids being missing, we could contact a newspaper, we could put them on Facebook, on YouTube, all kinds of things,” he says. “Foster and kinship carers will never do that because it’s simply not allowed without the director-general’s permission. It’s two years’ imprisonment for breaking the Act. *Carers are told very clearly that their hands are tied and to essentially sit on them and wait. It’s absolutely heart-wrenching. These kids are family members.”
How this legislation informed the actions of police in Tiahleigh’s search, Smith is less sure. “In matters such as this the director-general of, in this case, the *Department of Communities and the police commissioner are *talking to each other very quickly,” he says. “They make *decisions on what information is going to be published and when. The concern for us is that it was still a significant number of days before publishing anything. We don’t know what happened in that time and what inhibited [the process] for it not to be *published straight away.”
“There’s a great difficulty with kids in foster care,” says Hetty Johnston, founder and chair of national child protection advocacy group *Bravehearts. “The state, in effect, is their *parent. So, who talks? Do the foster parents? Does the relinquishing parent come out and speak up and risk the community unfairly throwing stuff at them like, ‘It’s your fault and this wouldn’t have happened if you were a better parent?’ Or is it the government’s role to talk to the media?”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/lif...y/news-story/2b730650eb869b1ab11a3bb7d75dae7d

Article from the same author of the William articles in The Australian. Many interesting quotes and interviews in the articles on Tialeigh's case and Williams. Alongside the comments shared from SoSo above, there were the comments from the local youth worker about "underlying issues" in the region? Are the underlying issues family/domestic/social issues? It didn't really explain in the article what that meant. The article that has been referenced multiple times above in The Australian (search 'fear in Kendall' to access articles) just leaves all these quotes from locals with more lingering questions.
Good to see investigations seeming to be ramping up and gaining momentum though, hoping for a massive breakthrough soon.

On Friday, 12 September 2014, I remember reading later that Bravehearts' representatives had spoken at a local breakfast. Along with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation, they were working on 'underlying issues' in the area. I read this in one of the area's local State member's newsletters. Those posts, and their links, would be way back on the one of the threads somewhere now. I'll search for them tomorrow, PK.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Slightly O/T but interesting. I hope William's sister hasn't to spend her entire life with searching for her little brother ....!!

http://www.australianmissingpersonsregister.com/TerryFloyd.htm
Terry FLOYD

Terry Floyd was last seen on June 28, 1975

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...to-raymond-jones/story-fni0ffnk-1226710060281

New lead in Terry Floyd cold case murder investigation points to Raymond Jones

Raymond Kenneth Jones is a prime suspect in the disappearance of Terry Floyd.

In 2010, the Herald Sun revealed that Victoria Police considered convicted paedophile Jones, 61, the prime suspect for abducting and murdering Terry.
He was on bail when Terry disappeared on June 28, 1975, and was later convicted of indecently assaulting a boy in a Ballarat toilet and jailed for two years.

 

[Bohemian]

Foster Care Queensland executive director Bryan Smith says Tia’s foster parents have had their hands tied by the Child Protection Act. “As parents, you and I, if we were getting really, really worried about our kids being missing, we could contact a newspaper, we could put them on Facebook, on YouTube, all kinds of things,” he says. “Foster and kinship carers will never do that because it’s simply not allowed without the director-general’s permission. It’s two years’ imprisonment for breaking the Act. *Carers are told very clearly that their hands are tied and to essentially sit on them and wait. It’s absolutely heart-wrenching. These kids are family members.”
How this legislation informed the actions of police in Tiahleigh’s search, Smith is less sure. “In matters such as this the director-general of, in this case, the *Department of Communities and the police commissioner are *talking to each other very quickly,” he says. “They make *decisions on what information is going to be published and when. The concern for us is that it was still a significant number of days before publishing anything. We don’t know what happened in that time and what inhibited [the process] for it not to be *published straight away.”
“There’s a great difficulty with kids in foster care,” says Hetty Johnston, founder and chair of national child protection advocacy group *Bravehearts. “The state, in effect, is their *parent. So, who talks? Do the foster parents? Does the relinquishing parent come out and speak up and risk the community unfairly throwing stuff at them like, ‘It’s your fault and this wouldn’t have happened if you were a better parent?’ Or is it the government’s role to talk to the media?”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/lif...y/news-story/2b730650eb869b1ab11a3bb7d75dae7d

Article from the same author of the William articles in The Australian. Many interesting quotes and interviews in the articles on Tialeigh's case and Williams. Alongside the comments shared from SoSo above, there were the comments from the local youth worker about "underlying issues" in the region? Are the underlying issues family/domestic/social issues? It didn't really explain in the article what that meant. The article that has been referenced multiple times above in The Australian (search 'fear in Kendall' to access articles) just leaves all these quotes from locals with more lingering questions.
Good to see investigations seeming to be ramping up and gaining momentum though, hoping for a massive breakthrough soon.

On Friday, 12 September 2014, I remember reading later that Bravehearts' representatives had spoken at a local breakfast. Along with the Daniel Morcombe Foundation, they were working on 'underlying issues' in the area. I read this in one of the area's local State member's newsletters. Those posts, and their links, would be way back on the one of the threads somewhere now. I'll search for them tomorrow, PK.

Gee, that was easier than I thought it would be:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-17&p=12097355#post12097355

 

[sosocurious]

Math isn't a talent of me at all but I try to count:

5 families for example

5 x 2 elderly spouses= 10 persons
plus each spouse with maybe 3 own children= 30 persons
plus the partner of each adult child= 30 persons
plus each pair with maybe 2 grown teenager children= 30 x 2= 60 persons

Based on only 5 families, that would be a total of ca. 130 individuals and one or more of them could have knowledge of something re William. - Please correct me if I'm wrong.

It would be nice to know how many members GAPA and the other group (member BS) had/has. Plus the pedos who weren't/aren't member of one or the other group but living in the larger Kendall area (incl. their family members). Oh yes, I think of "hundreds" police would have to check ..... :waiting: -------> :copcar:

He said he hoped the good work GAPA and its 35 member families did wouldn't be overshadowed by the ex-members behaviour.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...andparent-support-groups-20150905-gjfrug.html