Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #24

[Bohemian]

Best article ever written about William's disappearance. imo


"We drive with Jubelin to the scene of the abduction — it is his seventh or eighth trip there.

“You are here,” he says as we look up through trees to the house, “and you see a three-year-old kid in a Spider-Man suit on the road and there’s no one else around. What do you do?” It’s pretty easy to establish a rapport with a little boy. G’day Spider-Man. How are you going? Where’s your mum?

The way Jubelin sees it, you open the door and you put him in the car. Perhaps your first thought is to return him to his parents. Certainly, if anyone saw you now, you could say you were driving him to the police station in Laurieton, 15 minutes away. Instead of knocking on doors, you head back out past the showground. No one *follows you. You cross the Camden Haven River and nobody notices young William with the seatbelt over him. You bypass the police station in Laurieton and you just keep driving. By the time William’s mother calls 000 you are 30km away. There are tens of thousands of hectares of dense bushland between you and Kendall. *William is strapped in beside you, dressed in his Spider-Man suit."

I have to agree, SA. Evocative.

 

[sosocurious]

Best article ever written about William's disappearance. imo


"We drive with Jubelin to the scene of the abduction — it is his seventh or eighth trip there.

“You are here,” he says as we look up through trees to the house, “and you see a three-year-old kid in a Spider-Man suit on the road and there’s no one else around. What do you do?” It’s pretty easy to establish a rapport with a little boy. G’day Spider-Man. How are you going? Where’s your mum?

The way Jubelin sees it, you open the door and you put him in the car. Perhaps your first thought is to return him to his parents. Certainly, if anyone saw you now, you could say you were driving him to the police station in Laurieton, 15 minutes away. Instead of knocking on doors, you head back out past the showground. No one *follows you. You cross the Camden Haven River and nobody notices young William with the seatbelt over him. You bypass the police station in Laurieton and you just keep driving. By the time William’s mother calls 000 you are 30km away. There are tens of thousands of hectares of dense bushland between you and Kendall. *William is strapped in beside you, dressed in his Spider-Man suit."

Vietnam veteran Youngberry invites us to sit in a couple of iron chairs on his porch; a tinnie on a trailer sits like an ornament in the front yard of his Laurieton house. His wife is a cousin of Margaret Spedding. Bill Spedding has now been publicly branded a “person of interest” in the search for William’s abductor. How’s he handling it, we ask? “To tell you the truth I wouldn’t know what it is bloody well like,” Youngberry says. “I mean everyone is comin’ out and tellin’ him he’s basically murdered a kid. I mean, ****, not only kidnapped him but …”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078

Yes I agree.:twocents::

 

[deugirtni]

i agree Crabby re the backyard checks, but as we've heard there have been previous misses.

i continue to wonder what sort of car the FD was driving. ... the question has been asked here before and I don't believe we have knowledge of?

It it seems logical to me that if William saw across the yard, a car that looked like his Dad's he may easily have felt inclined to run down there.

The report that Mum rang Dad to ask was William with him, has always intrigued me.

She knew Wlliam was there well after Dad left, as she was with them on the patio and when they were playing hide & seek. .. Therefore, did she think this was around time Dad might be home, and did he perhaps arrive home un-noticed, pick up William and go somewhere??

as I said .. strange ... Well to me anyway..

Perhaps another incidence of inaccurate reporting. She may have simply called in a panic to say they can't find Wiiliam, and would he have any ideas...

That little tidbit about FM calling FD, has been gnawing at me lately. Most recently, I have been wondering... on the timelines that have now been published (see outline below). (Up until I saw this article linked below with the timelines, I hadn't known exactly what time FD had left the house). What has been going through my mind is ... the family arrived after dark the evening before... what if FD got up early, with the kids... and FM and FGM didn't get up until later, like around 10am. Has there been anyone at all on the street who saw or heard the children doing all of that playing outside *after* the time when FD left the home? There seems to have been people out and about on the street that morning?

I know that doesn't make sense, because of that photo that was taken, which is said to be time-stamped at 9:45am, however there have been numerous discussions here about whether that phone and photograph were examined forensically by the police forensic IT specialist department. I seem to recall that Inspector Fehon was saying right away that FM had a photo on her phone.. nothing about the phone having been removed for examination for a few days, just that the time was checked, etc.

9:00am - The next door neighbour heard young children playing in the yard around 9am, before she left her home ("Mrs Wilson said she heard the two children playing in the neighbouring yard before she left to run errands in the township about 90 minutes before William disappeared, just metre’s from her home." - http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...k=e77d40d05fffc3964d1c23cc2e9be654-1474187223 )

9:15am - FD leaves the house

9:45am - FM takes a photo of WT in his Spiderman outfit, which he had changed into; (but WT appears to be looking and 'rawring' at someone else and not the photographer); WT's sister sat in the background with a winter-ish looking jacket on, coloring a picture which was said to have been to take to FGP's gravesite later.

?am - FGM makes a cup of tea.

10:00am - 10:25am - FM and FGM sit outside as the 2 children play chase in the garden.

10:30am - FM notices that she has not heard WT for about 5 minutes, and the search is on.

10:56am - FM calls 000

William’s dad, a consultant, has to deliver a Skype presentation, so at 9.15am he drives to nearby Lakewood to get a reliable signal.

William changes from his pyjamas into his favourite Spider-Man suit. He looks adorable and at 9.45am his mum takes a photo of him, grinning into the camera, while his sister sits on the floor, drawing pictures to put on Opa’s grave. Nanna makes a cup of tea, and between 10am and 10.25am the two women sit outside as *William and his sister play chase in the *garden, which slopes down steeply, 70 metres or so, to the road.

https://m.facebook.com/114990695251....114990695251792/804822172935304/?type=3&_rdr
and
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/how-could-toddler-william-tyrrell-simply-vanish-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078

 

[deugirtni]

hey Soso, no Rhodes Scholar needed for that answer first off, HOWEVER, perhaps an easy smoke screen...perhaps.

I would imagine all decent & sane family members, friends & associates of Whoever is the perpretator/s, will be feeling Stuck, Tied, Confused, Frightened and any number of other emotions. It must be an awful burden to have a little boys life on your conscious.

I really am trying to keep an open mind in assessing the information that becomes public, which is very light on, but I do believe Jube has a room full of whiteboards that are zeroing in on the culprit. ( I noted comment re the lack of prompt investigation of the forensics on Brett Cowen's car - I don't believe for a minute that Det. Jubelin would let anything lapse. He is too focused and I doubt his team is allowed to slack

That goes without saying. But *what IF*, say a detective is tasked with a certain task, whatever it may be.. 'GJ: you, Det ?, you go and check: this, and this, and this'... and somehow, Det ? just doesn't do it, for whatever reason,.. forgot, thought he did it, did it half-@$$ed, whatever. GJ thinks it's been done. There is just no way (imho) that on top of all of the officers performing all of the tasks that would be required in this case, that GJ could also, in addition to levying out the instructions for, make sure that each and every detail was in fact looked after, as directed.

There was a case here on my side of the ocean many years ago when a murder was believed to have occurred, but no bodies had been found. Police had their suspect in mind. Police tasked it to another police force in a neighbouring jurisdiction to check out a location in their area, and it had always been assumed that this had been done. The victims' family was going to do it themselves, but they were told that no, the other police force has done it already. Turned out that the other police force thought the originating police force did it. Just a great big huge misunderstanding... 3 parties could have done it, but yet none did it. Eventually, after months, the bodies were found, in that very location, by a member of the public. Finding this months earlier would have made a substantial difference to the evidence that could have been obtained. Unfortunately, sometimes things fall between the cracks, and nobody even knows that they fell between the cracks, until they somehow come to light at some time in the future. jmo.

 

[Bohemian]

"Jubelin’s first task was a comprehensive review of the search. “Once I was assured that it was a thorough and professional search then, OK, if he’s not lost, he’s been snatched.” After meticulously investigating William’s immediate and wider family the detectives have ruled them out."

How could toddler William Tyrrell simply vanish into thin air?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078
April 18, 2015

After meticulously investigating William’s immediate and wider family the detectives have ruled them out. They’ve come to the conclusion he was snatched by a stranger; one terrifyingly likely motive is sexual gratification. They are hunting for a paedophile.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078
How could toddler William Tyrrell simply vanish into thin air?
18 April 2015

Thanks for the links, SA and soso. Subsequent MSM articles (post-April 2015):

William Tyrrell: Police work on 600 persons of interest in suspected abduction investigation
Ava Benny-Morrison
The Sydney Morning Herald
September 11 2016

'Last year a photo came across the desks of NSW detectives showing a young boy and a woman in a McDonald's in Central Queensland.

The boy looked eerily similar to William, and the woman he was with looked like his grandmother, Natalie Collins.

William's complicated background prevents reporting of certain aspects of his family life. However Ms Collins is not the grandmother who lived at the Kendall house where William disappeared from.

Fairfax Media reported last year that the hopes of detectives were dashed when police on the ground in Queensland confirmed the mother and boy were not who they hoped.

Ms Collins had already been tagged as a person of interest in the investigation, a suggestion she strenuously disputes.

The Sydney woman said she didn't know where William was staying at the time he disappeared or that he was going to be in Kendall.

"I didn't know, I wouldn't have a clue," she said.

"Who would have known what day he was going to be there and when he was playing outside?"

Ms Collin's friend, Kim Loweke, told A Current Affair in August that police visited her and asked if she was hiding William after they found out she intended to move into a three-bedroom house with Ms Collins.

"Why would I do that, seriously? If someone had him, I wouldn't hide him, I would show the world," Ms Collins said.'

'William's parents have been previously ruled out of their son's disappearance as has his grandmother, who moved out of the Kendall area after the unfathomable crime was carried out in her backyard.'

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...-abduction-investigation-20160906-gr9n80.html

and:

William Tyrrell investigation: highs, lows and false hope 12 months on
Ava Benny-Morrison
The Sydney Morning Herald
September 6 2015

'After months chipping away with no breakthrough, a photo came across the desks of Strike Force Rosann detectives.

It was well-focused and sharp, despite being hastily captured by a member of the public.

There was no denying the baby face in the image looked heart-stoppingly similar to William Tyrrell.'

'With the child was a woman with a chilling resemblance to someone police investigating three-year-old William's abduction had been interested in.

The photograph, captured in central Queensland, filled investigators with hope.

Detectives had finally found the little boy in the Spiderman suit whose disappearance had captivated Australia, they thought.

They went to sleep that night in June [2015], comforted by the thought they were about to pluck the boy from harm and place him back into his parents' arms.'

'The next day detectives on the soon-to-be 12-month investigation and senior police were briefed at the State Crime Command in Parramatta.

They were liaising with their Queensland counterparts about how William's extraction would play out.

Flights were about to be booked.

Then at the last minute, word from the ground reached investigators and obliterated their hope – it wasn't William.'

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...-false-hope-12-months-on-20150903-gjenjz.html

 

[Bohemian]

Conversely, if we keep focusing on the one and ONLY situation which has NOT been ruled out, perhaps it may be worthwhile to consider opening our minds to situations which *have* already been ruled out, at least until such time as this disappearance is actually solved and the details are evidenced.

Numerous posts have been made in regard to other tragedies, all around the world, where pipes/sewers/septics have been searched and yet something was missed. There has been no report in MSM that FGM's septic has even been actually 'pumped', only that it was looked into. How can people who were present that day be cleared as to having no knowledge or involvement until such time as it has been proven to have been an abduction of some kind? How can an accident be ruled out until WT is recovered?

It has been over 2 years now, and nothing. They are focusing only on the abduction-by-pedophile theory. Until such time that it is known what happened, is it *possible* it could be something else? Police, again all over the world, have been known to have tunnel-vision on certain cases. Even in the Morcombe case, police balked at a coroner's inquest in case something might come to light.

This site *is* about helping WT, and considering the length of time and no solution to the mystery, how can anyone's theory be discounted, unless it has been proven not to be the case?


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...k=e77d40d05fffc3964d1c23cc2e9be654-1474190860

And how much longer is that going to take, with all the resources that are available to DCI Jubelin, Strike Force Rosann, the NSW Police force and the public etc.??? Another 6 or so years as in Daniel Morcombe's case. The police virtually lost interest in Daniel's case after a few years. The only reason that his killer was found is that Bruce & Denise Morcombe never gave up searching for answers, even though the police had....MOO.

William Tyrrell: $1 million reward offered in case of missing NSW boy
ABC News
Updated Mon Sep 12 12:08:49 EST 2016
Posted Mon Sep 12 08:47:06 EST 2016

'An extensive search of the nearby area and bushland failed to find any trace of William and the search was scaled back after a week.

A police taskforce was then set up to investigate his suspected abduction.'

Police investigation largest in state

'"It's very important that I dispel the perception, or possible perception, that the announcement of the reward is the situation that we've run out of lines of inquiry," he said.

"This is a very proactive investigation, we've got numerous lines of inquiry, and we see the reward as another tool to find out what's happened to William."

'"As I stand here and speak we are working on covert operations at this particular time," he said.'

'He said a second taskforce was being assisted by other police operations groups including the armed hold-up squad, the sex crimes squad and the fraud squad.'

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-...ion-dollar-reward-for-william-tyrrell/7834782

Police in William Tyrrell search describe frustration
Ben Cooper
Port Macquarie News
18 Dec 2015, 3:04 p.m.

'As a father himself, Gary Jubelin feels it in his gut each day he doesn't find William Tyrrell.'

One week out from Christmas, the head of Strike Force Rosann told the Port News of his anguish that the little boy is still missing.

The officer speaks to William's family almost every week, and said it is "very difficult" and "frustrating" that he can't give them something concrete.

"We feel we've let the family down in not providing answers yet," he said.

"It weighs very heavily on myself and the rest of the team."'

''Frustration' is a term Detective Inspector Jubelin used frequently when talking about the investigation.

The seasoned member of the force said the length of time since William's disappearance is "frustrating".

But he insisted the job is not done.

"We do not have a defeatist attitude; the investigation will not stop.

"There are still lots of lines on inquiry being actively pursued."'

'"We have far, far from exhausted all our lines of inquiry."

Like William's family, there will be no celebrations for the strike force on December 25.

Like any other day, they will gather in Parramatta and Port Macquarie in rooms lined with whiteboards and scribbled details.

And they will not stop.'

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/35...et-family-down-william-tyrrell-investigators/

 

[koios]

i agree Crabby re the backyard checks, but as we've heard there have been previous misses.

i continue to wonder what sort of car the FD was driving. ... the question has been asked here before and I don't believe we have knowledge of?

It it seems logical to me that if William saw across the yard, a car that looked like his Dad's he may easily have felt inclined to run down there.

The report that Mum rang Dad to ask was William with him, has always intrigued me.

She knew Wlliam was there well after Dad left, as she was with them on the patio and when they were playing hide & seek. .. Therefore, did she think this was around time Dad might be home, and did he perhaps arrive home un-noticed, pick up William and go somewhere??

as I said .. strange ... Well to me anyway..

Perhaps another incidence of inaccurate reporting. She may have simply called in a panic to say they can't find Wiiliam, and would he have any ideas...

The hypothesis that WT might have run down to the roadside towards a stranger's car, mistakenly thinking it was the FF's car, because it was the same colour and shape, is a possibility.
Has anyone here ever returned to their car in a car park, and been puzzled by the key refusing to open the car door, only to finally realise that it is a stranger's car of the same model and colour?
I will have a look through images to see if colour and shape of FF car can be found.

 

[koios]

Added: In 3rd photo at http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-...line-follows-disappearance-of-nsw-boy/6274088 there is a light grey car on the main driveway (and possibly a tiny part visible of a white car in front of it in carport).

 

[Bohemian]

The hypothesis that WT might have run down to the roadside towards a stranger's car, mistakenly thinking it was the FF's car, because it was the same colour and shape, is a possibility.
Has anyone here ever returned to their car in a car park, and been puzzled by the key refusing to open the car door, only to finally realise that it is a stranger's car of the same model and colour?
I will have a look through images to see if colour and shape of FF car can be found.

Often done it. Not my own car but my daughter's. I've noticed my grandchildren, over the early years, point to cars the same shape and colour as their parents' and say, 'That's Mummy/Daddy's car!', when we've been out walking, or even when they're sitting in 'Mummy's/Daddy's car' at the time; God love 'em :heartbeat:

 

[Bohemian]

Added: In 3rd photo at http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-...line-follows-disappearance-of-nsw-boy/6274088 there is a light grey car on the main driveway (and possibly a tiny part visible of a white car in front of it in carport).

The make, model and colour of the car the FF travelled in to FGM's haa never been released AFAIK, nor have any the FGM/FGF may have owned. The FF's could be the silver car in the driveway, or the white one in the carport but, then again, they may not.

 

[Bohemian]

I hope everyone who could buy a copy of the Daily Telegraph did purchase at least one copy yesterday. Inside was the poster William's FP, the Where's William organisation, Bravehearts and NSW Police want as many people as is possible to display on their properties, in their businesses or even on telegraph poles in their suburb. They really are desperate to find William and bring him home.

My heart aches for William's FPs and his loved ones; but especially his sister. I know children are resilient; but she was too old at the time of William's disappearance to ever forget that a 'bad man' took her brother.

Even if the 'someone who knows/saw something' can't find it in their conscience to tell what they know to ease the suffering of the adults who love William, surely they can find it in their hearts to do so for the sake of an innocent little girl.

 

[crabstick]

The body would smell to high heaven

That goes without saying. But *what IF*, say a detective is tasked with a certain task, whatever it may be.. 'GJ: you, Det ?, you go and check: this, and this, and this'... and somehow, Det ? just doesn't do it, for whatever reason,.. forgot, thought he did it, did it half-@$$ed, whatever. GJ thinks it's been done. There is just no way (imho) that on top of all of the officers performing all of the tasks that would be required in this case, that GJ could also, in addition to levying out the instructions for, make sure that each and every detail was in fact looked after, as directed.

There was a case here on my side of the ocean many years ago when a murder was believed to have occurred, but no bodies had been found. Police had their suspect in mind. Police tasked it to another police force in a neighbouring jurisdiction to check out a location in their area, and it had always been assumed that this had been done. The victims' family was going to do it themselves, but they were told that no, the other police force has done it already. Turned out that the other police force thought the originating police force did it. Just a great big huge misunderstanding... 3 parties could have done it, but yet none did it. Eventually, after months, the bodies were found, in that very location, by a member of the public. Finding this months earlier would have made a substantial difference to the evidence that could have been obtained. Unfortunately, sometimes things fall between the cracks, and nobody even knows that they fell between the cracks, until they somehow come to light at some time in the future. jmo.

William is wearing no shoes, and a double T-shirt. I doubt he would walk far into any ground with sticks, or prickles with bare feet. More likely stay on grass if that as a 3 year old.
So William has not walked too far from the house. As you can see here, Williams feet are not soiled dirty. Williams outfit has no grass, or debri. The three year old has not walked down the back too far to play hide and seek as any sticks or prickles would impact his feet, and Williams feet would be dirty.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-...line-follows-disappearance-of-nsw-boy/6274088

 

[crabstick]

Another contradiction. Anyone have facts? BBM
I can understand playing in front in bare feet on hard ground. So William was playing in front yard, but ran to backyard in bare feet?

William Tyrrell disappeared from his grandmother's house on Benaroon Drive in Kendall at 10.30am. William was playing with his sister in the front yard and was wearing a Spider-Man suit at the time.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-...line-follows-disappearance-of-nsw-boy/6274088

 

[crabstick]

Interesting Benaroon drive continues down to connecting road
Drive into the forrest and out the escape route? Or just sit in the escape route, and drive off down the forest.
You can see water course mapping in this image as well.

 

[curious one]

That little tidbit about FM calling FD, has been gnawing at me lately.

It's something that I've always wondered about.

I know that doesn't make sense, because of that photo that was taken, which is said to be time-stamped at 9:45am, however there have been numerous discussions here about whether that phone and photograph were examined forensically by the police forensic IT specialist department. I seem to recall that Inspector Fehon was saying right away that FM had a photo on her phone.. nothing about the phone having been removed for examination for a few days, just that the time was checked, etc.

That photo has always stood out to me. Before I knew there was a complicated history, my initial gut reaction back at the start, was:
That photo has been taken at a different time - more around midday, as the shadows don't seem right.
That photo was "taken on purpose", to place WT at the FGM house. Would be curious to know if other photos were taken - and who were they taken of. The fact the sister is in the background, but you can't see her face, and FGM foot is in the photo, seemed to be a bit staged - as I say, this was my initial gut reaction. Were there other photos of his sister, with her face showing?

I am curious as to how they have verified the photo was taken at that time.
If it was time stamped - very easy to photoshop this in.

If it was verified by date the file was created - I am wondering if that was manipulated.
eg I have manipulated images before - to give the wrong file creation date. Very simple to do - open up an image that was created at that time, and then paste the other image over the top.
Have done this with other documents too - in fact I remember I was working on a file that someone else had created, and it was keeping track of all the changes - which I didn't like, so I just created a brand new file, copied and pasted the old data into the new file, worked on it, then copied it all back into the original file. That way it had only tracked a few of my edits.

It's also possible to take a screen shot on your phone of an older picture ... wonder what sort of data that has attached to it.

William is wearing no shoes, and a double T-shirt. I doubt he would walk far into any ground with sticks, or prickles with bare feet. More likely stay on grass if that as a 3 year old.
So William has not walked too far from the house. As you can see here, Williams feet are not soiled dirty. Williams outfit has no grass, or debri. The three year old has not walked down the back too far to play hide and seek as any sticks or prickles would impact his feet, and Williams feet would be dirty.

They said he was wearing sandals, and later released a picture of ones that were similar. I also noticed his clean feet - so would indicate he had sandals on previously, took them off, then put them back on again. Around 9am, grass would still be a bit moist - so would be easier for dirt to stick to wet feet.

Given it is a rural block, very close to bush land - I am very surprised he was running around in sandals, unsupervised. Snakes at this time of year are something we've always been cautious of. And magpies.

 

[Bohemian]

Another contradiction. Anyone have facts? BBM
I can understand playing in front in bare feet on hard ground. So William was playing in front yard, but ran to backyard in bare feet?

William Tyrrell disappeared from his grandmother's house on Benaroon Drive in Kendall at 10.30am. William was playing with his sister in the front yard and was wearing a Spider-Man suit at the time.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-...line-follows-disappearance-of-nsw-boy/6274088

I think the only statements we ever get that are close to the 'facts' are from DCI Jubelin and William's FPs in on-camera and radio interviews and pressers (although I suspect there has been some obfuscation of the facts for strategic reasons, in both cases, at times). Anyway, there's where I'd be looking for any hard contradictions.

To my mind, all of their statements seem to be fairly consistent, with a firm '...won't discuss for operational reasons.' or 'Won't comment...' about past POIs/strategies/operations by Jubes. As for the FPs, I haven't yet found them to really put a foot wrong, except that they sometimes speak of William in the past tense; but that's understandable under the circumstances.

Out of all of MSM, I think The Abe and SBS seem to lack a lot of the sensationalism of the commercial entities and are more prone to take pains to correct any glaring errors. Understandable too, as commercial entities are profit-driven not taxpayer funded.

 

[crabstick]

The coppers would have seen the image time on the phone itself which doesnt lie.
As soon you paste the image over, then save, it creates a new date.
Police can access EXIF metadata

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I am curious as to how they have verified the photo was taken at that time.
If it was time stamped - very easy to photoshop this in.

If it was verified by date the file was created - I am wondering if that was manipulated.
eg I have manipulated images before - to give the wrong file creation date. Very simple to do - open up an image that was created at that time, and then paste the other image over the top.

 

[curious one]

The coppers would have seen the image time on the phone itself which doesnt lie.
As soon you paste the image over, then save, it creates a new date.
Police can access EXIF metadata

So if I have a photo taken on my phone, from last week, and I open it up on my phone, and take a screen shot of it - at the date/time I want it taken - what information will that image give?

 

[crabstick]

*BBM. So William was on the road. Well William must have been on the drive according the quote. Bare feet on 3 year old not overly durable.
Someone who had the presence of mind, and a mental picture of the houses around of people not home, knowing the risk is substantially diminished. Hes in the car, off they go.
One POI had a reason to be there. Reason to be everywhere. No explanation necessary to be anywhere. A plan and alibi to be where they went everywhere that day.

Did someone go to Dunboggan? If he said he did, he probably did. But what happened on that trip? Was there a vehicle transfer? Dot the I's, and crossed the T's.

Did team fridgey/scrappy carry out a kidnapping for other reasons? Wellington crew?

Best article ever written about William's disappearance. imo
"We drive with Jubelin to the scene of the abduction — it is his seventh or eighth trip there.
“You are here,” he says as we look up through trees to the house, “and you see a three-year-old kid in a Spider-Man suit on the road and there’s no one else around. What do you do?” It’s pretty easy to establish a rapport with a little boy. G’day Spider-Man. How are you going? Where’s your mum?
The way Jubelin sees it, you open the door and you put him in the car. Perhaps your first thought is to return him to his parents. Certainly, if anyone saw you now, you could say you were driving him to the police station in Laurieton, 15 minutes away. Instead of knocking on doors, you head back out past the showground. No one *follows you. You cross the Camden Haven River and nobody notices young William with the seatbelt over him. You bypass the police station in Laurieton and you just keep driving. By the time William’s mother calls 000 you are 30km away. There are tens of thousands of hectares of dense bushland between you and Kendall. *William is strapped in beside you, dressed in his Spider-Man suit."

 

[sosocurious]

It's something that I've always wondered about.



That photo has always stood out to me. Before I knew there was a complicated history, my initial gut reaction back at the start, was:
That photo has been taken at a different time - more around midday, as the shadows don't seem right.
That photo was "taken on purpose", to place WT at the FGM house. Would be curious to know if other photos were taken - and who were they taken of. The fact the sister is in the background, but you can't see her face, and FGM foot is in the photo, seemed to be a bit staged - as I say, this was my initial gut reaction. Were there other photos of his sister, with her face showing?

I am curious as to how they have verified the photo was taken at that time.
If it was time stamped - very easy to photoshop this in.

If it was verified by date the file was created - I am wondering if that was manipulated.
eg I have manipulated images before - to give the wrong file creation date. Very simple to do - open up an image that was created at that time, and then paste the other image over the top.
Have done this with other documents too - in fact I remember I was working on a file that someone else had created, and it was keeping track of all the changes - which I didn't like, so I just created a brand new file, copied and pasted the old data into the new file, worked on it, then copied it all back into the original file. That way it had only tracked a few of my edits.

It's also possible to take a screen shot on your phone of an older picture ... wonder what sort of data that has attached to it.



They said he was wearing sandals, and later released a picture of ones that were similar. I also noticed his clean feet - so would indicate he had sandals on previously, took them off, then put them back on again. Around 9am, grass would still be a bit moist - so would be easier for dirt to stick to wet feet.

Given it is a rural block, very close to bush land - I am very surprised he was running around in sandals, unsupervised. Snakes at this time of year are something we've always been cautious of. And magpies.

From memory mum did say in one of the interviews (will try and find it ) that she took 3 photos.