Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #25

[sosocurious]

I have gone way back to where this all began.....IMO, BS is definitely involved because of all the upheavel to his Bonnyhills home, ex pawn shop and flat above at Laurieton (where items were taken away for testing).....I feel that the father (mask man) of the children who were being cared for by BS and MS has a connection with biofam and is involved with the abduction and being protected by BS and MS.....he used to help BS at the previous pawn businesses and has spent time behind bars.....maybe he was living in the flat above pawn shop where mattress and computers were taken away for testing.....he may have been driving BS's white van on occasions when people assumed it was BS.....there was a psychic's sketch of a man in the very early stages published in Daily Mail that looks very much like him...all MOO

Yes I am with you matey.
I feel BS is in involved in some very significant way.
imo

 

[gregjrichards]

Yes I am with you matey.
I feel BS is in involved in some very significant way.
imo

I agree with you and Matey. I think the police have a rough idea what happened to William but need someone to talk in order to prove it. Sadly the longer time goes on from the $1 million dollar reward being issued I think the hope of someone doing so fades.

 

[they'll get you]

Sadly, I feel that poor Little William is no longer alive...MOO

After reading the most recent news on William's case, this is the first time I feel (and fear) you may be correct, tiddles. I have an overwhelming sense of foreboding about him. Poor little lad x

The right side of my brain agrees totally.

The left side sees the FB connection. I just can't forget it!!

Coincidence? Luck? Maybe but it's just too close for any comfort.

 

[sosocurious]

https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....ts#/detail/20150011963915454162Trial/spedding

BS
8 Feb
2.00pm
Judge Huggett
District Court - TRIAL

Well there you go. No stay of proceedings granted it does seem.
2.00pm trial is that the norm?

 

[sleepinoz]

https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....ts#/detail/20150011963915454162Trial/spedding

BS
8 Feb
2.00pm
Judge Huggett
District Court - TRIAL

Well there you go. No stay of proceedings granted it does seem.
2.00pm trial is that the norm?

Hope someone tweets from Court :thinking:

 

[Bohemian]

Hope someone tweets from Court :thinking:

I'll see how my morning pans out. I may be able to get there.

 

[Karinna]

I gather this is the Trial for B. Spedding's historical charges? I will be very interested to see the chain of evidence from this 30 something year old case, should be interesting IMO.
Was there any DNA evidence at all does anyone know?

 

[bearbear]

why arent msm all over bs in court, surely the local papers would want to cover it, cant find anything?

 

[tiddles24]

I have gone way back to where this all began.....IMO, BS is definitely involved because of all the upheavel to his Bonnyhills home, ex pawn shop and flat above at Laurieton (where items were taken away for testing).....I feel that the father (mask man) of the children who were being cared for by BS and MS has a connection with biofam and is involved with the abduction and being protected by BS and MS.....he used to help BS at the previous pawn businesses and has spent time behind bars.....maybe he was living in the flat above pawn shop where mattress and computers were taken away for testing.....he may have been driving BS's white van on occasions when people assumed it was BS.....there was a psychic's sketch of a man in the very early stages published in Daily Mail that looks very much like him...all MOO

Most likely scenarios.....BS was involved in William's disappearance and fully planned it, but it was not for reasons of sexual perversion but for other undisclosed reasons.....passed him on to someone else (maybe mask man?) who had a connection to William.....someone else he knows is guilty but who for now remains anonymous.

I still wonder at times if William could have been accidentally hit by a vehicle while driving into the driveway of FGM's home and quickly covered up (with no evidence of blood etc)..MOO

 

[gregjrichards]

Most likely scenarios.....BS was involved in William's disappearance and fully planned it, but it was not for reasons of sexual perversion but for other undisclosed reasons.....passed him on to someone else (maybe mask man?) who had a connection to William.....someone else he knows is guilty but who for now remains anonymous.

I still wonder at times if William could have been accidentally hit by a vehicle while driving into the driveway of FGM's home and quickly covered up (with no evidence of blood etc)..MOO

I wondered about an accident in the driveway but I think most people would be too distraught by what they had done to stay absolutely silent and drive off with William's lifeless body. If it was me I'd would be absolutely distraught shouting "no, no what have I done" and "somebody call an ambulance." I think William was grabbed, silenced possibly physically with a hand or even with Chloroform and bundled into a car/van in 30 seconds.

 

[Karinna]

why arent msm all over bs in court, surely the local papers would want to cover it, cant find anything?

You would think? It's a Trial isn't it?

 

[Karinna]

I wondered about an accident in the driveway but I think most people would be too distraught by what they had done to stay absolutely silent and drive off with William's lifeless body. If it was me I'd would be absolutely distraught shouting "no, no what have I done" and "somebody call an ambulance." I think William was grabbed, silenced possibly physically with a hand or even with Chloroform and bundled into a car/van in 30 seconds.

Where would you get chloroform from though? I wouldn't think it would be very obtainable nowadays?

 

[Karinna]

It is a worry there has been no break in WT's case, and the longer it goes on it is sad there are no real answers in this case IMO.

 

[gregjrichards]

Where would you get chloroform from though? I wouldn't think it would be very obtainable nowadays?

It's quite easy to make and you would just dab some on a cloth to silence Willaim. His abduction was carefully planned professionally you might say no mistakes were made.

 

[sleepinoz]

Where would you get chloroform from though? I wouldn't think it would be very obtainable nowadays?

Easily available and not expensive:

http://shop.pharmacydirect.com.au/pharmacy/Chloroform

 

[Karinna]

Easily available and not expensive:

http://shop.pharmacydirect.com.au/pharmacy/Chloroform

I clicked on the link you provided and it came up with one item, that being Senega & Ammonia without chloroform is what it says in the description. It is cough medicine.

 

[Karinna]

It's quite easy to make and you would just dab some on a cloth to silence Willaim. His abduction was carefully planned professionally you might say no mistakes were made.

Yes, like Casey Anthony googling on how to make chloroform. I doubt that is what happened to William though, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Karinna]

IMO i think WT's case involves more of a custodial type dispute, and his consequent being missing, unless he is still out in the bush somewhere from being adventurous and wandering away.

 

[sleepinoz]

I clicked on the link you provided and it came up with one item, that being Senega & Ammonia without chloroform is what it says in the description. It is cough medicine.

Yes it does, strange because I'm sure it said chloroform before - ah well.

It doesn't have much use these day so probably harder to get than I think.

 

[sosocurious]

why arent msm all over bs in court, surely the local papers would want to cover it, cant find anything?

Mr O'Brien argued those two factors meant publication of the Victorian case could "grossly prejudice" an upcoming Campbelltown trial, due to start in February.

The court heard some of the Victorian charges mirror those Spedding faces in NSW and involve one of the same complainants.

Mr O'Brien argued in the age of social media publication of the details of the Victorian charges against Spedding would lead to "perverse, unusual and bizarre results".
However, he also stated to the court that Spedding would apply to have that NSW trial permanently stayed in September.
Magistrate Mark Stratmann refused the suppression order application, ruling properly directed jurors could be trusted to judge evidence on its own merit, regardless of media reports.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-...l-spedding-will-try-to-stop-nsw-trial/7669984

According to court documents, there is evidence that Mr Spedding shared the girls with other men, and he was allegedly present with other men when the girls performed sex acts on each other. This investigation involves a number of child victims and “there is evidence of other adult offenders”, police allege.

Many of the alleged offences took place in Victoria and involve “not only further offences committed against the victims in this matter, but also further victims”.
“There is evidence of other adult offenders who are complicit in similar child-sex offences both independently of and in conjunction with the accused in this matter,” according to the court documents.......

Mr Spedding, who will face court again in June, has recently approached one of his alleged victims, asking her to state she was not abused, court documents allege: “After he has become aware of police making enquiries concerning he and the Tyrrell matter, the accused has commenced contacting those known to him requesting they provide him with statutory declarations endorsing his good character.”

One alleged victim told police “the accused has directly lobbied her for a declaration that states he did not sexually abuse her or similar when she was a child”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d/news-story/60e517cfba665cfb3adc60b763b674d4

Maybe the local parers can't cover it bear.

Does it seem that the police know who these other adult offenders are? I wonder if they are denying it until their final breath as well?

imo