Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #28

[Karinna]

bbm ....

Oh those protests, thanks for clarifying.

 

[sleepinoz]

I had an idea that FACS were involved for some time before William's removal; that the biological parents were on a sort of probation, or on notice, to improve or the children would be taken. I can't remember where I got that idea and I might be mixing up cases.

Looks like FACS were involved with the family before William was even born.

Julian’s sister, who is a year older than Julian and whom I shall call Sarah, had been removed from her mother’s care before Julian was born

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

 

[sleepinoz]

What protesters? And as far as adoption goes, what do you think the FP's were doing and still fighting in court for custody of KT's daughter? They wanted to keep those children as their own i would think. It's in the caselaw document on the link that the FP's are fighting for the little girl.

It also says:

Subsequently, having found that there was no realistic possibility of restoration to their parents, the Children’s Court made final orders allocating parental responsibility for Julian and Sarah to the Minister until they attain 18;

edited to add the link

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

 

[Karinna]

It also says:

Subsequently, having found that there was no realistic possibility of restoration to their parents, the Children’s Court made final orders allocating parental responsibility for Julian and Sarah to the Minister until they attain 18;

edited to add the link

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

yes i recall reading that, but that was a decision made at the time and i'm not sure that there is no chance of a child or children being reunited with their parent/s if that can be an option?
I don't think it is that binding if KT seeks custody of her daughter at this point in time? If it was she wouldn't be able to apply for restoration i wouldn't think?

 

[Karinna]

ETA,
(quote)
The carers have recently applied to the Children’s Court for sole parental responsibility for Sarah. In response, the mother has stated that she seeks restoration of Sarah to her care. The father, who is now separated from the mother, is not actively engaged.
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

 

[sosocurious]

NC said that William’s foster parents were strict and that the boy “wasn’t allowed lollies or chocolates”.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e


William is loving that lolly pop aged three years.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...disappeared-three-years-ago-today_a_23205108/

 

[sosocurious]

“A lot of people have made money going on television talking about William and me. I’m still a ‘suspect’ and the police have yet to sit down and have a proper chat with me and find out what I know.

“I don’t want money, I just want help for Brendan. He needs it.”

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

Who has gone on television talking about NC?
KL was there anyone else?

 

[JLZ]

“A lot of people have made money going on television talking about William and me. I’m still a ‘suspect’ and the police have yet to sit down and have a proper chat with me and find out what I know.

“I don’t want money, I just want help for Brendan. He needs it.”

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

Who has gone on television talking about NC?
KL was there anyone else?

Perhaps she means journalists.

 

[they'll get you]

ETA,
(quote)
The carers have recently applied to the Children’s Court for sole parental responsibility for Sarah. In response, the mother has stated that she seeks restoration of Sarah to her care. The father, who is now separated from the mother, is not actively engaged.
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

Where is that child the happiest and being well cared for. What an upheaval!


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[Karinna]

NC said that William’s foster parents were strict and that the boy “wasn’t allowed lollies or chocolates”.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e


William is loving that lolly pop aged three years.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...disappeared-three-years-ago-today_a_23205108/

Not really sure why NC is being given a platform on msm, but i wouldn't take much notice of what she says IMO.
Are they paying her for these interviews i wonder?

 

[Karinna]

Where is that child the happiest and being well cared for. What an upheaval!


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We don't really know? As i said i think a child is always better off with a bio parent/s if at all possible and KT's other children do look well cared for from photos of her and them in the msm. I'm not going to judge her if the supreme court doesn't have any issue with her.
And she also has other young siblings she can grow up with, and that just might help her a little bit to compensate for the loss of her little brother William.

 

[SouthAussie]

“A lot of people have made money going on television talking about William and me. I’m still a ‘suspect’ and the police have yet to sit down and have a proper chat with me and find out what I know.

“I don’t want money, I just want help for Brendan. He needs it.”

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

Who has gone on television talking about NC?
KL was there anyone else?

I'd like to know who made money, as well. Other than the TV advertisers who would have been vying heavily for a spot during the FPs shadowed, police approved, FaCS approved appearance.

Pretty sure the FPs would have done any kind of appeal, free of charge, if they were allowed to. I just cannot imagine the grief and frustration they must carry with them every day.

 

[Bohemian]

Um, wow.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...d/news-story/1a73063218a15527c703ad7d2136710e

Lots of info I didn't know here, and whilst one-sided obviously, still a very interesting read.

So, let me get this straight. It’s Karlie’s, FaCS’ (and, by extension, William’s FP’s and FGM’s) and NSWPOL’s fault that William is missing (and probably dead, according to NC).

 

[sleepinoz]

ETA,
(quote)
The carers have recently applied to the Children’s Court for sole parental responsibility for Sarah. In response, the mother has stated that she seeks restoration of Sarah to her care. The father, who is now separated from the mother, is not actively engaged.
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

Magic words Karinna "In response, the mother has stated that she seeks restoration" --- she replied she didn't apply.

Probably wouldn't have done that if she wasn't asked IMO.

 

[sleepinoz]

Perhaps she means journalists.

Probably talking about Alanna Smith and the court case, but then again she has been on ACA herself.

 

[they'll get you]

So, let me get this straight. It’s Karlie’s, FaCS’ (and, by extension, William’s FP’s and FGM’s) and NSWPOL’s fault that William is missing (and probably dead, according to NC).

Yeah you got it right Bo. Its everyone else’s fault.


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[sosocurious]

Perhaps she means journalists.

Maybe JLZ.
That would mean she was meaning the lots of people getting paid a wage to talk about her.
I though she was meaning that they were getting a bit of an agreed payment to do so...an exclusive.

Maybe she is meaning she is seeking payment to talk about herself and justifying it as needing the money to help her son seek rehab for his ice addiction that has only commenced since William disappeared and he has been collecting kids cloths and all sorts of things.

imo

I feel like I am in another thread.

 

[Karinna]

Magic words Karinna "In response, the mother has stated that she seeks restoration" --- she replied she didn't apply.

Probably wouldn't have done that if she wasn't asked IMO.

Could you please point out where that is stated? Because this is what is stated from what i'm reading
(quote)
The carers have recently applied to the Children’s Court for sole parental responsibility for Sarah. In response, the mother has stated that she seeks restoration of Sarah to her care. The father, who is now separated from the mother, is not actively engaged. The proceedings were to be heard from 6 December 2016 over four days; whether that hearing proceeded and if so its outcome is not known to me. However, in those proceedings Sarah has, at the suggestion of her independent legal representative, been referred to by a pseudonym, in order to protect her from being identified as Julian’s sister.
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

 

[sosocurious]

Could you please point out where that is stated? Because this is what is stated from what i'm reading
(quote)
The carers have recently applied to the Children’s Court for sole parental responsibility for Sarah. In response, the mother has stated that she seeks restoration of Sarah to her care. The father, who is now separated from the mother, is not actively engaged. The proceedings were to be heard from 6 December 2016 over four days; whether that hearing proceeded and if so its outcome is not known to me. However, in those proceedings Sarah has, at the suggestion of her independent legal representative, been referred to by a pseudonym, in order to protect her from being identified as Julian’s sister.
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

Sorry to butt in - BBM

 

[sleepinoz]

ETA,
(quote)
The carers have recently applied to the Children’s Court for sole parental responsibility for Sarah. In response, the mother has stated that she seeks restoration of Sarah to her care. The father, who is now separated from the mother, is not actively engaged.
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

Could you please point out where that is stated? Because this is what is stated from what i'm reading
(quote)
The carers have recently applied to the Children’s Court for sole parental responsibility for Sarah. In response, the mother has stated that she seeks restoration of Sarah to her care. The father, who is now separated from the mother, is not actively engaged. The proceedings were to be heard from 6 December 2016 over four days; whether that hearing proceeded and if so its outcome is not known to me. However, in those proceedings Sarah has, at the suggestion of her independent legal representative, been referred to by a pseudonym, in order to protect her from being identified as Julian’s sister.
https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58853ecfe4b058596cba36a9

From your quote :facepalm: