Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[Karinna]

But why keep breeding...............I just don't get it :gaah:

These children don't deserve this, they just don't.

Yes they should not keep having kids i agree. But Centrelink does pay well to single mothers with a few children i have heard.

 

[Karinna]

Maybe, just maybe, in Karlie’s case she had her two boys to ‘replace’ ‘Sarah’ and William — before she had thought about the reasons they were removed and took the time to modify her behaviour. It happens, unfortunately (most of all for the children that come after).

That could be. Maybe she comes from a large family and wanted that for herself? Or maybe she needed the benefits unless she is working or has worked since having children?

 

[drsleuth]

That could be. Maybe she comes from a large family and wanted that for herself? Or maybe she needed the benefits unless she is working or has worked since having children?

Children are not cash cows :tantrum:.............the cycle just keeps repeating, whilst society is left picking up the pieces. Something has to change to protect these children............good start would be cutting of cash payments & replacing with vouchers??

 

[Bohemian]

Children are not cash cows :tantrum:.............the cycle just keeps repeating, whilst society is left picking up the pieces. Something has to change to protect these children............good start would be cutting of cash payments & replacing with vouchers??

Or to be brought into this world to fill an emotional ‘need’ without thought for their well-being.

 

[Karinna]

Children are not cash cows :tantrum:.............the cycle just keeps repeating, whilst society is left picking up the pieces. Something has to change to protect these children............good start would be cutting of cash payments & replacing with vouchers??

Yes i agree that something has to change. I know back in the day when a teen got pregnant she went away to have the baby because termination of pregnancy was not available as an option back then. The baby was immediately removed from the teenage mother and placed for adoption. And that wasn't fair either, and many heartaches stemming from that. Children that are adopted are more likely to commit suicide because of the stigma they feel of being an unwanted child by biological parents, regardless of the nice life they have had by adoptive parents. They will search as adults for their real parents to try & heal those primal wounds.
Sad situation for a lot of people. Foster care also brings its own problems for children that have been moved around a lot too. They also feel unwanted as they grow up and learn their predicaments.

 

[Karinna]

Or to be brought into this world to fill an emotional ‘need’ without thought for their well-being.

Yes that too. A cute little baby is very demanding 24/7, and most don't realize the huge commitment/responsibility involved. And cute little babies grow up and don't stay little babies for long.

 

[Bohemian]

There are other reasons for the suicide of adopted children, especially when there has been neglect, abuse and/or familial violence in their biological families. Case in point:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5326017/Adoptive-parents-told-truth-says-MEG-HENDERSON.html

 

[they'll get you]

I can make a mean crazy tea cozy too.

One of many talents.

How many years did Khandalyce Pearce lay on the side of a main road in a suitcase?

Someone, one day might be bushwalking and notice something pink among some leaf litter, prod it and realise it’s a faded Spider-Man item and walk on. Then a couple more years pass until someone else has a better memory and puts 2 + 2 together.

Red is a colour that fades the most but it’s not cotton so it won’t rot away so readily.
Poor sweet child, if only.....
:sigh:



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[they'll get you]

Is that Karlie with an ice cream on her head?

No it’s an ice cream with a tumour.


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[Bohemian]

One of many talents.

How many years did Khandalyce Pearce lay on the side of a main road in a suitcase?

Someone, one day might be bushwalking and notice something pink among some leaf litter, prod it and realise it’s a faded Spider-Man item and walk on. Then a couple more years pass until someone else has a better memory and puts 2 + 2 together.

Red is a colour that fades the most but it’s not cotton so it won’t rot away so readily.
Poor sweet child, if only.....
:sigh:



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I think it was seven.

In the worst case scenario, that may be the case. The best? William may still be alive. Somewhere, out there.

Never give up hope that the mystery of William’s disappearance will be solved — even in the worst case scenario. As we speak, moves are afoot to excavate a site where the Beaumont children are thought to be buried. Hopefully, after 52 years, the mystery of their disappearance will be solved and they can be laid to rest with dignity.

Bless you tgy and William x

 

[they'll get you]

Children are not cash cows :tantrum:.............the cycle just keeps repeating, whilst society is left picking up the pieces. Something has to change to protect these children............good start would be cutting of cash payments & replacing with vouchers??

I don’t get the lack of contraceptives.


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[Hbayne]

I think I asked this before can't can't recall. Do we know if karlie two younger boys are the sons of BC ? I read one article that pointed to that but said former partner so want sure if it was another partner in between.

 

[Bohemian]

I don’t get the lack of contraceptives.


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Accident or design? Chicken and egg.

 

[butterstick]

Personally I don't care if bio Mum had an outburst at the cops. I'd actually expect her to have a meltdown. I'd forgive that of anyone. Even someone from a posh home. She's been through hell, even if some of it self inflicted. She's got her own story.

We all know a proportion of society is struggling massively. It's really no surprise.

WT needs Sleuthing, not judgement on his genetics.

 

[they'll get you]

I don’t get the lack of contraceptives.


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What’s so bloody hard about a condom or a pill?
Many many couples are married for a lifetime and manage to have only two children. It’s intelligent & responsible.
As a last resort there is the morning after pill as well among other things..
KT is just one of millions & it’s our taxes.
There’s no solution.



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[suspicious]

I think suspicious might have been asking, what does IANAL stand for.

Yes. I’m a bit hopeless but thankfully I know what lol means... lol




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[suspicious]

I think suspicious might have been asking, what does IANAL stand for.

So what does it mean?


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[Hbayne]

Personally I don't care if bio Mum had an outburst at the cops. I'd actually expect her to have a meltdown. I'd forgive that of anyone. Even someone from a posh home. She's been through hell, even if some of it self inflicted. She's got her own story.

We all know a proportion of society is struggling massively. It's really no surprise.

WT needs Sleuthing, not judgement on his genetics.

I totally get where you are coming from but I guess it's all part of the big picture. We are a curious lot

 

[Karinna]

There are other reasons for the suicide of adopted children, especially when there has been neglect, abuse and/or familial violence in their biological families. Case in point:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5326017/Adoptive-parents-told-truth-says-MEG-HENDERSON.html

Adoptees: More Than Just Children Needing Homes
Mental Illness and Abuse in Adoption

Unfortunately the origins of many adoptions stem from major family issues from previous generations; mental illness, alcoholism and drug addiction, abuse and neglect, or lack of proper parenting.Our kids often come loaded with organic issues from their parents, and/or being subjected to abuse. As adoptive parents, we are often under the misconception that these issues can be rectified by a healthy family environment and lots of love. Years into the adoption, we may find ourselves sitting in a specialist’s office being given advice on medication, brain scans, or various other therapies for our child – realizing we have inherited a lot more than a child merely needing a home. This is where I see a lot of parents get stuck, as they don’t want to accept their child is more affected than previously thought, that it might be a lifetime of care, that their sphere of parental influence might be more mental health management than parental shaping, or that the impact of their birth family far outweighs the influence of the adoptive family. Many parents choose to remain in denial because it feels like they’re giving up. This is exacerbated by their kid’s ability to look more functional than they really are, a defense mechanism developed in order to survive.

The other issue that complicates things is being abused or neglected, and often witnessing domestic violence in the birth home. The impact of these experiences is profound on our kids, and amplifies their distrust of others. Even if they don’t have a working memory of the incidents, they all too often have ‘body’ memory. Trauma remains locked in their bodies and they are hypersensitive and hypervigilant to their surroundings. This takes a major toll on their health, as they are always in a state of stress and anxiety.
http://www.attachmentandtraumaspecialists.com/articles/adoption_and_suicide_risk

 

[SouthAussie]

So what does it mean?


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IANAL means I Am Not A Lawyer. You must have missed Bohemian's explanation, at least several comments away from where it was written.