Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[they'll get you]

As I said before, I totally get where you are coming from and what you are saying . KT and her every move (thanks to her self) is now open slather. I think without much else happening with this case we are all desperate for any info we can gather. Wrong or right we are all allowed our opinions if we stick to the rules and I don't see anyone on timeout yet ( thanks Mods) for over stepping the mark. Every little pice we here or read is part of the big picture that was this little boys life. I think it's all relevant.

MSM is our source.


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[Hbayne]

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I totally agree on that , it's only our allowed source too

 

[they'll get you]

Karlie in the media I guess brings more focus on Williams case. Good to see this thread alive again. Baby steps but at least his name is out there again.
I have total faith in jubelin and the strikeforce but wish to hear any update they could give the public (us) soon.

As Jubelin said......’worlds collided’.


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[Deleted member 102539]

That could be. Maybe she comes from a large family and wanted that for herself? Or maybe she needed the benefits unless she is working or has worked since having children?

From SM long time ago I know Karlie is verrry proud to have produced the prettiest children (two already in foster care). If she has no other worries .... then "good night". IMO

 

[Bohemian]

A group of women, at least 5 that are all over sm dishing dirt on ff and facs. They are so one sighted from what I can guess is their own grievances with facs. It's all about the ff family being guilty in there eyes. God forbid a paedophile would be involved. It's all a huge conspiracy in their eyes. Stupid women

I don’t understand why she hasn’t yet advanced her theory about William’s disappearance to DCI Jubelin? What happened to ‘If you know something, say something?’ Then again, Jubes is probably in on the ‘conspiracy’ too.

 

[Bohemian]

From SM long time ago I know Karlie is verrry proud to have produced the prettiest children (two already in foster care). If she has no other worries .... then "good night". IMO

So she should be. William is a lovely-looking little lad. He reminds me of his mother. The same cheekiness. Such a shame. I feel so sad for both of them, and ‘Sarah’. I hope she grabs the opportunity to raise her two little ones. It would be a tragedy, for all of them, if she lost them too.

 

[Bohemian]

Karinna, as much as we banter and disagree, I'm truly sorry you lost two of your children, I only just read your post. I'm so sorry this happened to you and your family. I can't imagine the heartbreak.

Ditto. I couldn’t have said it better, Hb. I have expressed my condolences to Karinna for the loss of her son in the past and did see her mention (on another thread I don’t post on) about the loss of her daughter. I am very sorry for your loss, Karinna; especially for that of your daughter x

 

[Bohemian]

Well said.

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Ditto. We could all do with a little more compassion; especially for ourselves.

 

[Bohemian]

Karlie in the media I guess brings more focus on Williams case. Good to see this thread alive again. Baby steps but at least his name is out there again.
I have total faith in jubelin and the strikeforce but wish to hear any update they could give the public (us) soon.

Or it may be another ‘peripheral distraction’; especially on this thread.

I agree, DCI Jubelin has a handle on this even if, at times, we and the ‘public’ don’t.

 

[Wexford]

Not to rehash the whole argument but the MSM reports about the incident at Macquarie Centre did mention that there was an issue involving KT and customers and then security guards before the police were called. So the police did not in any way 'instigate' the original issue. There was an issue to which they were then called and they asked the child what the marks were on his leg. You can draw your own conclusions to that but I think the chain of events speaks for itself. The police do not just walk up to randoms in shopping centres and ask their children about marks.

 

[SouthAussie]

Not to rehash the whole argument but the MSM reports about the incident at Macquarie Centre did mention that there was an issue involving KT and customers and then security guards before the police were called. So the police did not in any way 'instigate' the original issue. There was an issue to which they were then called and they asked the child what the marks were on his leg. You can draw your own conclusions to that but I think the chain of events speaks for itself. The police do not just walk up to randoms in shopping centres and ask their children about marks.

I agree. I think the events flowed on from each other, and the legs were part of it. Not a separate issue at all.

 

[Bohemian]

Not to rehash the whole argument but the MSM reports about the incident at Macquarie Centre did mention that there was an issue involving KT and customers and then security guards before the police were called. So the police did not in any way 'instigate' the original issue. There was an issue to which they were then called and they asked the child what the marks were on his leg. You can draw your own conclusions to that but I think the chain of events speaks for itself. The police do not just walk up to randoms in shopping centres and ask their children about marks.

I agree. I think the events flowed on from each other, and the legs were part of it. Not a separate issue at all.

Not that we can ascertain, or discuss, the details as they wouldn’t be entered into open evidence in a criminal matter. Rather it would be a CP issue and bound by the confidentiality of the relevant Act AFAIK.

 

[SouthAussie]

Not that we can ascertain, or discuss, the details as they wouldn’t be entered into open evidence in a criminal matter. Rather it would be a CP issue and bound by the confidentiality of the relevant Act AFAIK.

Certainly is nothing that MSM or the police can talk about in any detail. Though I don't believe it will stop public speculation.

I think MSM have alluded to it, and that is all they can do.

 

[Bohemian]

Certainly is nothing that MSM or the police can talk about in any detail. Though I don't believe it will stop public speculation.

I think MSM have alluded to it, and that is all they can do.

Yes, that’s true an it won’t stop public speculation. But we have to remember that ‘Sarah’ and William’s two younger siblings are victims too, as well as William and ‘Sarah’ themselves; probably even more so than their relevant biological and foster parents.

 

[bearbear]

Not to rehash the whole argument but the MSM reports about the incident at Macquarie Centre did mention that there was an issue involving KT and customers and then security guards before the police were called. So the police did not in any way 'instigate' the original issue. There was an issue to which they were then called and they asked the child what the marks were on his leg. You can draw your own conclusions to that but I think the chain of events speaks for itself. The police do not just walk up to randoms in shopping centres and ask their children about marks.

so maybe she smacked and yelled at her child and someone intervened and it got out of hand?

 

[SouthAussie]

so maybe she smacked and yelled at her child and someone intervened and it got out of hand?

There is so much controversy around smacking a child these days. It has been analysed to death by the professionals.
Of course, like anything done in careful moderation, it did us all no harm as young children ... and was the way that many of our parents gave out their final punishment for continued bad behaviour ... after umpteen warnings.

It is not disallowed in NSW, or any other state.

If a young child's legs are slapped as a means of correction, it is perfectly acceptable to the law.

"In some jurisdictions a parent's right to use corporal punishment is provided for in legislation (e.g., New South Wales), while in others it is provided for by the common law ("judge-made law") (e.g., Victoria). All Australian states and territories condone (in principle) the use of force by a parent, by way of correction, towards a child."

For example, in NSW, prior to 2002 it was up to judges to decide what kind of physical punishment was acceptable. Since the state introduced the Crimes Amendment (Child Protection Physical Measures Act), there is now clarification on what kind of physical punishment is permissible on a child.

According to the amendment, it's okay to use physical force on a child provided that it "was reasonable having regard to the age, health, maturity or other characteristics of the child, the nature of the alleged misbehaviour or other circumstances". Also, you can't hit them above the neck or "any other part of the body of the child in such a way as to be likely to cause harm to the child that lasts for more than a short period".

https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2016/10/is-it-legal-to-smack-your-child/

 

[frogwell]

Yes ... a complete loss. Visits only allowed due to the Minister. Litigation only allowed due to the Minister.

You can fight this as much as you like. You are fighting the wrong people.

Mother demands answers on why her children were living with Bill Spedding
http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...g/news-story/2a8a51819720492213582b8d70dc61da

Then why can't this mother be named?

 

[sleepinoz]

Mother demands answers on why her children were living with Bill Spedding
http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...g/news-story/2a8a51819720492213582b8d70dc61da

Then why can't this mother be named?

Does it say she can't be named? or was it her choice?

 

[frogwell]

Does it say she can't be named? or was it her choice?

Someone … needs to be held accountable,” the woman, who cannot be named, told The Australian.

 

[frogwell]

Had a quick look at 15 A of the Children (Criminal Proceedings) Act 1987
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/cpa1987261/

That seems to be about children who are going to court for crimes they have committed. I wonder if point 6 also includes general criminal investigations.