Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[Karinna]

What you describe fits maddie mccann .snatched to order.

This is local to port macquarie ,laurieton type passed around snatch imo.

In your reference to the MBM case, there is no proof she was "snatched to order".
The parents admitted to leaving MBM and her 18 mnth. old twin siblings home alone while they went to the tapas bar. The crime happened in Portugal, and they have jurisdiction over the case and named the parents "arguido" (suspects).

 

[Whàngarei]

In your reference to the MBM case, there is no proof she was "snatched to order".
The parents admitted to leaving MBM and her 18 mnth. old twin siblings home alone while they went to the tapas bar. The crime happened in Portugal, and they have jurisdiction over the case and named the parents "arguido" (suspects).

Thats my opinion. No proof .

 

[Whàngarei]

I think he gets out with the people who have him at times .sufficiently changed ,not recognised,not questioned. I dont believe hes simply locked in a room.probably not in school. People dont really look intently at others often. He would be overlooked .

Thats my take, my opinion .

 

[Violet77]

He didnt die out there imo.THE CRETINS had bigger plans for him imo.

I hope he is alive out there somewhere, being looked after, best case that he was "snatched to order" to fulfil a family that could not have children, but I just cant see that being the case here. I believe little William took his last breath in that bush somewhere, after a traumatic event at the hands of one of the two I mentioned, perhaps even a triggered asthma attack took over from the perps origianl "end game".
There are so many different theories, from a staged abduction put together by any of the bio family (uncle, GM etc) to yowies, the simplest explanation is what I am leaning towards,which is very unfortunate for William.

 

[Whàngarei]

I hope dci jubelin is as sharp as i believe he is. Discount nothing. Believe anything is possible.keep every avenue open .

 

[Bohemian]

‘Listen’:

(11:53) R:

'Are the majority of those suspects sex offenders?'

(11:58) GJ:

'I think we need to keep an open mind in regards to this. There's an assumption right from the start, that a three year old child's been abducted that may, or may not, be the sexual predator. We're keeping an open mind to that. I can't break down specifically how many persons of interest are on the basis of suspicion attached to their sexual interests in children but I do want to stress this is a unique investigation. I'm very mindful that we've looked at all possibilities and I keep an open mind to it.

I hear stories from overseas of situations where children have disappeared for decades and the turned up in circumstances. I also hear stories of incidents have occurred that are by accident and been covered up and then revealed. So, we are keeping an open mind to it and our focus is not just on sex offenders or, let's break it down; paedophiles. We're not just looking at that aspect of it.

And we're also mindful that our research tells us that the child, at the age of three, doesn't necessarily fit into the parameters of childless couples where young babies have been abducted. It's that unique nature of this investigation that's making this particularly trying.'‘

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...e-of-William-Tyrrell-7-News-12-September-2017

DCI Jubelin knows. We don’t. For William’s sake, listen and let DCI Jubelin do his job. Don’t let us be another ‘peripheral distraction’.

 

[Bohemian]

How are those abduction scenarios coming along? Anyone interested? Might help us to test our individual hypotheses. I don’t have one :sigh: The perils of keeping an open mind . . .

 

[Unit45]

That says to me that the detectives are leaning towards an abduction, is it correct that one of William's relatives are inside?

 

[Bohemian]

Thats my opinion. No proof .

You may well be right, my love, but we can’t find William — only DCI Jubelin can.

 

[Bohemian]

That says to me that the detectives are leaning towards an abduction, is it correct that one of William's relatives are inside?

Yes. Take care Unit45.

 

[Karinna]

Does anyone know if they used blood & cadaver detection dogs around & near the FGM's home when searching for WT?
I know they had search & rescue dog/s to try and pick up his scent, but the other types of detection dogs might have picked up other clues too?

 

[SouthAussie]

‘Listen’:

(11:53) R:

'Are the majority of those suspects sex offenders?'

(11:58) GJ:

'I think we need to keep an open mind in regards to this. There's an assumption right from the start, that a three year old child's been abducted that may, or may not, be the sexual predator. We're keeping an open mind to that. I can't break down specifically how many persons of interest are on the basis of suspicion attached to their sexual interests in children but I do want to stress this is a unique investigation. I'm very mindful that we've looked at all possibilities and I keep an open mind to it.

I hear stories from overseas of situations where children have disappeared for decades and the turned up in circumstances. I also hear stories of incidents have occurred that are by accident and been covered up and then revealed. So, we are keeping an open mind to it and our focus is not just on sex offenders or, let's break it down; paedophiles. We're not just looking at that aspect of it.

And we're also mindful that our research tells us that the child, at the age of three, doesn't necessarily fit into the parameters of childless couples where young babies have been abducted. It's that unique nature of this investigation that's making this particularly trying.'‘

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/e...e-of-William-Tyrrell-7-News-12-September-2017

DCI Jubelin knows. We don’t. For William’s sake, listen and let DCI Jubelin do his job. Don’t let us be another ‘peripheral distraction’.

Are we being a peripheral distraction? I thought we were discussing the case and our theories. Maybe I don't understand what you are saying.
I think we are listening. Maybe we aren't all hearing the exact same thing? Different people, different minds, different interpretations ... all are valid.

Jubelin does know. But he is being very careful with what he is saying. Leaving everything open on the table, so a good defence lawyer can't say that he was locked into one thing and one thing only, didn't consider other possibilities.

 

[SouthAussie]

Thats my take, my opinion .

I hope dci jubelin is as sharp as i believe he is. Discount nothing. Believe anything is possible.keep every avenue open .

Thanks, Whàngarei. It is good to hear others theories on this.

And I do think Jubelin is as smart as you believe he is. I believe that, too. I think he was specifically chosen to take over this case due to his smarts and his experience in cases like the Bowraville case.

 

[Bohemian]

Does anyone know if they used blood & cadaver detection dogs around & near the FGM's home when searching for WT?
I know they had search & rescue dog/s to try and pick up his scent, but the other types of detection dogs might have picked up other clues too?

Not sure, either because I’ve forgotten, that information wasn’t published, or has since been edited out of the original articles or the web links are no longer working. Why? I don’t know. Maybe operational reasons. The history, such as it is, of William’s case is still documented on WS from the beginning, so that specific information could possibly be somewhere in the early threads.

 

[SouthAussie]

Does anyone know if they used blood & cadaver detection dogs around & near the FGM's home when searching for WT?
I know they had search & rescue dog/s to try and pick up his scent, but the other types of detection dogs might have picked up other clues too?

Yes.

A POLICE cadaver dog has joined a dive team and officers searching swamp area as the frustrating search for missing three-year-old William Tyrell continues on the NSW mid-north coast today.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...g-three-year-old/story-fnitcyla-1227245592721

Sniffer dogs and cadaver dogs found no scent in the yard, fuelling fears he may have been abducted.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/missing-w...ved-alone-in-bush-police-20140917-10hy58.html

Detectives with the homicide squad and the child sex abuse squad have both been helping with the inquiry and cadaver dogs have combed the area for kilometres around the peaceful village of Kendall.
https://www.facebook.com/WilliamTyr...500645642600/1502318860027445/?type=1&theater

Neither police sniffer dogs nor cadaver dogs had been able to pick up any sign of the boy, Fehon said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...olice-say-chances-of-survival-are-diminishing

 

[Bohemian]

Are we being a peripheral distraction? I thought we were discussing the case and our theories. Maybe I don't understand what you are saying.
I think we are listening. Maybe we aren't all hearing the exact same thing? Different people, different minds, different interpretations ... all are valid.

Jubelin does know. But he is being very careful with what he is saying. Leaving everything open on the table, so a good defence lawyer can't say that he was locked into one thing and one thing only, didn't consider other possibilities.

I don’t know. I don’t want us to become one. I think DCI Jubelin’s quest to find William is a difficult one. There are other ‘evils’ in the world other than paedophilia and there is the possibility that William is still alive and ‘at risk of harm’.

I am not saying that anyone’s theory is invalid. We are all different and that is the beauty of WS. Do I believe you have a valid argument for BS’ involvement in William’s abduction? Yes, I do.

That may be the reason, or it may not as IANAL

 

[Bohemian]

Yes.

A POLICE cadaver dog has joined a dive team and officers searching swamp area as the frustrating search for missing three-year-old William Tyrell continues on the NSW mid-north coast today.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...g-three-year-old/story-fnitcyla-1227245592721

Sniffer dogs and cadaver dogs found no scent in the yard, fuelling fears he may have been abducted.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/missing-w...ved-alone-in-bush-police-20140917-10hy58.html

Detectives with the homicide squad and the child sex abuse squad have both been helping with the inquiry and cadaver dogs have combed the area for kilometres around the peaceful village of Kendall.
https://www.facebook.com/WilliamTyr...500645642600/1502318860027445/?type=1&theater

Neither police sniffer dogs nor cadaver dogs had been able to pick up any sign of the boy, Fehon said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...olice-say-chances-of-survival-are-diminishing

Thank you SA, for refreshing my memory too.

 

[SouthAussie]

I don’t know. I don’t want us to become one. I think DCI Jubelin’s quest to find William is a difficult one. There are other ‘evils’ in the world other than paedophilia and there is the possibility that William is still alive and ‘at risk of harm’.

I am not saying that anyone’s theory is invalid. We are all different and that is the beauty of WS. Do I believe you have a valid argument for BS’ involvement in William’s abduction? Yes, I do.

That may be the reason, or it may not as IANAL

Well, I don't think that you have to worry about us become a distraction to anyone who is investigating this case. If they even care what we say, they will know that it is a bunch of people sitting around chatting about the case. And using some decorum and limits.
Far better than some of the very horrible stuff that is being said on FB, I hear.

(PS: And I don't really care what people think about my own theory. Just for the record. I just discuss it in the same way that we are all able to discuss our theories here ... well, most people can discuss their theories, as long as they don't involve the cleared parents. Not trying to sell anybody my theory. )

 

[Violet77]

What are everyones theories regarding the cars seen that day -

The two parked with the driver side windows down

The car that made a U-turn in a neighbouring properties driveway, while the children played on their bikes in the GM's driveway

& the 4WD that was seen existing Benaroon drive around the same time he disappeared & was then reportedly later seen "speeding" through another Kendal street

 

[Bohemian]

Well, I don't think that you have to worry about us become a distraction to anyone who is investigating this case. If they even care what we say, they will know that it is a bunch of people sitting around chatting about the case. And using some decorum and limits.
Far better than some of the very horrible stuff that is being said on FB, I hear.

(PS: And I don't really care what people think about my own theory. Just for the record. I just discuss it in the same way that we are all able to discuss our theories here. Not trying to sell anybody on it. )

Yes, but we’re a lot more considered in formulating our theories about William’s abduction than the wild speculation, rumour and gossip thrown around on FB, and we know from other cases, ‘MSM’ reads here.

(PS I know you don’t care and I think the majority of us understand why that is the most likely scenario based on available information. You don’t have to sell me on anything. I admire your intelligence — whether you care or not )