Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #29

[Bohemian]

I know Karlie and Brendan have all brought heat down upon themselves recently but I can't help thinking about what Jubelin said at the last presser. He wants whoever is responsible for WT's disappearance to feel that people are watching them.

Who knows. He doesn’t ‘comment on operational matters’. Besides he said they were ‘cleared’.

 

[sleepinoz]

Not splitting hairs, or condoning assaulting police AT ALL but I’m not sure Karlie has been charged with the prior ‘offence’. Maybe someone knows of an additional court date, or the person/police decided not to press charges?

THE biological mother of missing toddler William Tyrrell has appeared in court after she was charged with multiple offences including spitting on a police officer.

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...r/news-story/cadf3f99e00570b0539f9648d2d8629f

 

[Bohemian]

THE biological mother of missing toddler William Tyrrell has appeared in court after she was charged with multiple offences including spitting on a police officer.

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...r/news-story/cadf3f99e00570b0539f9648d2d8629f

Thanks sleep x I wasn’t sure.

 

[frogwell]

Who knows. He doesn’t ‘comment on operational matters’. Besides he said they were ‘cleared’.

Yes, but there's no one else unwillingly in the MSM glare in relation to this case. Some surveillance is overt and some is covert.

 

[SouthAussie]

Not splitting hairs, or condoning assaulting police AT ALL but I’m not sure Karlie has been charged with the prior ‘offence’. Maybe someone knows of an additional court date, or the person/police decided not to press charges?

She would have been charged and prosecuted. Even if the charges were later dismissed (best case scenario).


"Your rap sheet is an official record of your arrests and prosecutions (RAP). This will contain information from any arrests and prosecutions, which includes charges, convictions, and dismissals."

http://www.tulare-kings-attorney.co...-is-the-different-between-a-rap-sheet-and-a-/

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[Bohemian]

Yes, but there's no one else unwillingly in the MSM glare in relation to this case. Some surveillance is overt and some is covert.

There may be other people responsible for that.

 

[Bohemian]

She would have been charged. Even if the charges were later dismissed (best case scenario).


"Your rap sheet is an official record of your arrests and prosecutions (RAP). This will contain information from any arrests and prosecutions, which includes charges, convictions, and dismissals."

http://www.tulare-kings-attorney.co...-is-the-different-between-a-rap-sheet-and-a-/

Thanks SA. Interpretation of the law and I don’t mix at the best of times, plus I’ve had an exhausting week. The cogs in my brain are turning slowly of late.

 

[Karinna]

Sometimes i really wonder what actually Isn't being said in this case?
I just get a feeling there is much we don't know, and probably won't. It has always been a jigsaw puzzle with a lot of missing pieces IMO.

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks SA. Interpretation of the law and I don’t mix at the best of times, plus I’ve had an exhausting week. The cogs in my brain are turning slowly of late.

No worries. We have looked at these various things in other cases, which is why the answers come quickly.

 

[Hbayne]

Sometimes i really wonder what actually Isn't being said in this case?
I just get a feeling there is much we don't know, and probably won't. It has always been a jigsaw puzzle with a lot of missing pieces IMO.

Of course there is so much we don't know. None of us here are on strike Roseanne. I would put a million bucks on that.

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes, but there's no one else unwillingly in the MSM glare in relation to this case. Some surveillance is overt and some is covert.

Anthony Jones comes to mind, right away. And Bill Spedding ... subjudice is the only thing that is keeping things quiet for him at the moment, I'm sure.

Karlie has been cleared. I think the press on her is more about trying to give the public possible reasons or understanding as to why her first two children were removed. That Brendan was not the only one with questionable behaviour. Seeing as the children were removed from both parents.

As LouLou said, she'll likely be back under FaCS review now, if her child's leg injuries caused the police officer suspicion. Especially as she didn't offer an answer. Mandatory reporting requirements.

 

[Hbayne]

Of course there is so much we don't know. None of us here are on strike Roseanne. I would put a million bucks on that.

I just wish someone out there would want those one million bucks

 

[SouthAussie]

I just wish someone out there would want those one million bucks

Maybe when/if Spedding goes to jail over his current charges, someone will want those million bucks.

 

[Hbayne]

Maybe when/if Spedding goes to jail over his current charges, someone will want those million bucks.

I think there will be a few lining up

 

[Bohemian]

From what I’ve seen, and don’t know about her history, I have the feeling that, at the very least, Karlie may have complex trauma. The first place to start finding an answer is your local Community Health Centre. Either the Sexual Assault Service or Mental Health Service. 1800 RESPECT is another good resource. They counsel and give advice to callers anonymously for DV, SA and related C-PTSD. Another place to start, again anonymous, is the Blue Knot Foundation (previously Adult Survivors of Child Abuse [including neglect]):

https://www.blueknot.org.au/

 

[Karinna]

Of course there is so much we don't know. None of us here are on strike Roseanne. I would put a million bucks on that.

I wasn't talking about the Rosanne strike force though.

 

[SouthAussie]

From what I’ve seen, and don’t know about her history, I have the feeling that, at the very least, Karlie may have complex trauma. The first place to start finding an answer is your local Community Health Centre. Either the Sexual Assault Service or Mental Health Service. 1800 RESPECT is another good resource. They counsel and give advice to callers anonymously for DV, SA and PTSD matters. Another place to start, again anonymous, is the Blue Knot Foundation (previously Adult Survivors of Child Abuse [including neglect]):

https://www.blueknot.org.au/

Her pre-sentencing review may lead her to court-ordered treatment/counselling.

For all we know, her parents may be okay and have given her the best childhood they could. Her dad is certainly standing with her during this most recent fiasco. And may have stood with her for previous ones. Being on the lower socio-economic scale, doesn't mean bad parenting or any abuse, as well all know. She may have gone off the rails all by herself.

Sometimes it is to big-note yourself amongst your peers. Be one of them. Then the behaviour takes hold.

 

[Bohemian]

Her pre-sentencing review may lead her to court-ordered treatment/counselling.

For all we know, her parents may be okay and have given her the best childhood they could. Her dad is certainly standing with her during this most recent fiasco. And may have stood with her for previous ones. Being on the lower socio-economic scale, doesn't mean bad parenting or any abuse, as well all know. She may have gone off the rails all by herself.

Sometimes it is to big-note yourself amongst your peers. Be one of them. Then the behaviour takes hold.

For sure. That too. Still needs help, if she wants it. This behaviour is dysfunctional. Destroying her life and those of her children.

 

[SouthAussie]

For sure. That too. Still needs help, if she wants it. Destroying her life and those of her children.

I agree. She is 29 years old now. Time to put her big girl pants on and start doing the right thing for her children. Starting with getting herself in order. Stop choosing abusive partners (if that bruise is an indication of that), start being a good role model ... stop spitting at the police and causing so much of a ruckus that security guards have to call the police in the first place.

 

[Bohemian]

I agree. She is 29 years old now. Time to put her big girl pants on and start doing the right thing for her children. Starting with getting herself in order. Stop choosing abusive partners (if that bruise is an indication of that), start being a good role model ... stop spitting at the police and causing so much of a ruckus that security guards have to call the police in the first place.

In simple terms; grow up.