Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #33

[SouthAussie]

BBM. Or us, the taxpayers, very likely. IMO

I don't think you can get a Legal Aid lawyer for a defamation lawsuit, can you? Maybe just some free legal advice, I would think.

 

[Whàngarei]

Ok, Jill Meagher - her husband was a POI initially - was he not? All partners are a person of interest at first in an investigation, I think you would agree? Other Australian cases - Derek Percy is a POI in the Wander beach murders and the Adelaide Oval cases. Also Bevan Spencer von Einem remains a POI in several young male's deaths in Adelaide. MOO

actually Derek Percy was not poi in the Adelaide Oval case Hes been in jail for some years by then. His mate should have been though.

 

[Karo]

I don't think you can get a Legal Aid lawyer for a defamation lawsuit, can you? Maybe just some free legal advice, I would think.

I don't think you can get legal aid lawyers for anything that has a monetary reward, as such.

 

[iailwa]

actually Derek Percy was not poi in the Adelaide Oval case Hes been in jail for some years by then. His mate should have been though.

He certainly is a POI... in this case

 

[Whàngarei]

He certainly is a POI... in this case

beaumont children ,simon brooks ,allen redmond,wanda beach girls, were the cases he was a poi.He killed Yvonne Tuohy and Linda Stilwell .

 

[they'll get you]

I don't think they are capped, Rebel Wilson received $4.5M in her defamation case

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-13/rebel-wilson-defamation-damages/8936850

I can’t see Spedding’s lost revenue would be similar to a movie star’s lost wages.


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[Hbayne]

I can’t see Spedding’s lost revenue would be similar to a movie star’s lost wages.


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He probably does think of himself as somewhat of a celebrity now

 

[they'll get you]

Yes, I think it was his son Rodney though, that said that. Either way, a washing machine repairman's loss of earnings would not amount to that much.

He couldn't claim more than he claimed as his earnings on his tax return, I wouldn't think. Can't be a heck of a lot of $$.

The court try to make fair and reasonable restitution, generally.

Would pain and suffering come into it.
He lost the children (money)
The shop.
Business, like who’d ask him into their home?
His large house.

Poor MS must be in a terrible frail state.




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[Bohemian]

This isn't about winning or losing or defeats and victories. It's not about one- upmanship either, or provocation. It's about William. Many of us have been here for a long time for William and have learned to respect our differing opinions and views and we all cohabited nicely without making it a competition.

Please can we go back to that? And can we please remember, we're here for William, not ourselves & our egos. This is WS, as opposed to SM.

I understand why many WSers’ tempers have become frayed of late but, you’re right p&g, we need to treat each other with a lot more compassion and William and his families with greater respect by being civil toward one another on his threads.

 

[Hbayne]

Would pain and suffering come into it.
He lost the children (money)
The shop.
Business, like who’d ask him into their home?
His large house.

Poor MS must be in a terrible frail state.




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If he was found innocent in the case of William then I would definitely think he would deserve to take this as far as he could.

 

[they'll get you]

He probably does think of himself as somewhat of a celebrity now

MS was in such a celebratory mood leaving court, lucky BS was holding her hand because I was expecting the bird.
Someone was liking the attention.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/watch/raw-william-spedding-at-sydney-court/vi-BBJjCfR



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[purpleandgreen]

No idea, SA. Just that's it's usually us, the poor old taxpayers who pay for a lot of lawyers.

I don't think you can get a Legal Aid lawyer for a defamation lawsuit, can you? Maybe just some free legal advice, I would think.

 

[Karo]

There are a few lawyers who would be ecstatic to represent someone like this in this kind of action, no win, no payment but usually they are very certain of the outcome.

 

[sosocurious]

No idea, SA. Just that's it's usually us, the poor old taxpayers who pay for a lot of lawyers.

6. Civil law matters - when legal aid is available
6.17. Sexual assault communications privilege matters
6.17.1 Representation for protected confiders in sexual assault matters
6.17.2 Representation in appeals under s5F of the Criminal Appeal Act 1912 (NSW)
6.17.1 Representation for protected confiders in sexual assault matters
Legal aid is available to a person who is a protected confider seeking to oppose:

the production of protected confidences, and/or
the adduction of evidence in relation to protected confidence

https://www.legalaid.nsw.gov.au/for...xual-assault-communications-privilege-matters

 

[Bohemian]

I imagine that's happened, but it would be because the police were mistaken in their earlier suspicions, not because they wanted to cause a distraction and to hell with the consequences for the person named. If anyone knows of an Australian case where police deliberately created public suspicion of an innocent person, I'd like to see a link or at least a direct reference to the case.

The only case I can vaguely remember where defamation was argued successfully was brought by the husband of the late Corryn Rayney although he had been publicly named by members of WAPOL as the ‘prime’ and ‘only’ suspect in her murder investigation:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...tralia-Corryn-Rayney-44-Como-WA-7-August-2007

 

[papertrail]

What I was meaning is I wonder if the uniqueness of the case was/is the way in which it had to be handled in the media - due to William foster care status.
Is there any other cases known where someone presumably unknown to the family has sought an immediate inquest and removal of the lead detective.
imo

In the link Bo posted to case it says argument ? What does that mean ?

Could it be that Spedding had initially cooperated with particular msm regarding a particular story that has not been published as yet, changed his mind and trying to stop publication? The use of the term argument in court schedule to me doesnt relate to defamation.

 

[sosocurious]

Could it be that Spedding had initially cooperated with particular msm regarding a particulsa story that has not been published as yet, changed his mind and trying to stop publication? The use of the term argument in court schedule to me doesnt relate to defamation.

Isn't the argument just both parties putting their points - argument forward to establish if it will go any further?

 

[JLZ]

Could it be that Spedding had initially cooperated with particular msm regarding a particulsa story that has not been published as yet, changed his mind and trying to stop publication? The use of the term argument in court schedule to me doesnt relate to defamation.

Legal argument can be a feature of a court case on any subject, including defamation.

Edit: too slow again.

 

[bearbear]

I imagine that's happened, but it would be because the police were mistaken in their earlier suspicions, not because they wanted to cause a distraction and to hell with the consequences for the person named. If anyone knows of an Australian case where police deliberately created public suspicion of an innocent person, I'd like to see a link or at least a direct reference to the case.

it doesnt have to be a deliberate naming of a poi though, it can be just sitting back and see what happens while msm go after someone,and in the process making that person seem like the main poi to the general public, especially if they know he has a dodgy history with children etc

 

[papertrail]

What I was meaning is I wonder if the uniqueness of the case was/is the way in which it had to be handled in the media - due to William foster care status.
Is there any other cases known where someone presumably unknown to the family has sought an immediate inquest and removal of the lead detective.
imo

Isn't the argument just both parties putting their points - argument forward to establish if it will go any further?

Yes and it doesnt indicate that the argument is regarding defamation.