Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #33

[Bohemian]

Also interesting to read the comments made Drs Nielssen and Diamond, omitted from the post quoting The Australian article (above):

’William’s disappearance is a “once in a decade crime” according to Dr Olav Nielssen, a psychiatrist from the University of NSW, who has studied juvenile homicides. More than half the children who are murderers die of violent abuse. Around a quarter are killed by psychotic parents or guardians. Ten to fifteen percent are a result of teenagers fighting. And there are the drug-addled parents who give their children methadone to help them sleep.

Once, every decade or so, “a child is abducted by some sexual deviant, or thrill killer, or in some other bizarre circumstance”, Nielssen says. “These murders are extremely rare.”

If someone took William it is unlikely it was their first offence, says Dr Michael Diamond, a forensic psychiatrist and criminal profiler. “You just don’t do this sort of crime for the first time”, he says. “You would have to do other experiential things that confront you, if you are going to do something of that magnitude.”’

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078

 

[Bohemian]

and Forensic psychologist and former cop Brad Jones

said who ever came into the street came with a particular purpose.............

Once having considered what they were about to do.
* Who might see me?
* How do I prepare for that?
*How do I prevent being identified?
The ability to approach a child without having a child get fearful or scared. That's a skill...

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-nig...illiam-part-2/
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...rents-should-feel-guilty-20180304-p4z2s0.html

How do I prevent being identified .....

Are there other links to Dr Jones’ comments, soso? The links above don’t contain the quoted information.

 

[SouthAussie]

Are there other links to Dr Jones’ comments, SA? The links above ^^^^ don’t contain the quoted information.

That is soso's post, Bo. Not mine.

But when I did a Google search for what you were asking for, I found this.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-31&p=13972030#post13972030

https://au.news.yahoo.com/my-william-part-2-39386880.html

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[SouthAussie]

Also interesting to read the comments made Drs Nielssen and Diamond, omitted from the post quoting The Australian article (above):

Yes, I omitted all that stuff because I didn't want to upset the people who don't like to think that William may be deceased. Which I think he likely is.

I omitted it on purpose.

 

[sosocurious]

That is soso's post, Bo. Not mine.

But when I did a Google search for what you were asking for, I found this.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-31&p=13972030#post13972030

https://au.news.yahoo.com/my-william-part-2-39386880.html

Google is our friend

Thanks SA - sorry about the link I posted.

 

[Bohemian]

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https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-31&p=13972030#post13972030

https://au.news.yahoo.com/my-william-part-2-39386880.html

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Thank you SA.

 

[Bohemian]

Thanks SA - sorry about the link I posted.

Thank you for bringing up Brad Jones&#8217; comments, soso. They&#8217;re interesting.

 

[Bohemian]

I think maybe the perp has been identified ......BBM

..... when somebody makes that kind of impulsive decision, mistakes are made and it's those kind of mistakes that the investigation is focusing on," Dr Yule (senior criminal analyst working with Strike Force Rosann) said.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...illiam-tyrrells-abductor-20150911-gjkqyz.html

Me too, SA. Let’s hope that person or persons are brought to justice soon.

DCI Jubelin on A Current Affair on 12 September 2017:

’The investigator leading the search for missing boy William Tyrrell has said "the strongest likelihood" is that police have already encountered his kidnapper.

Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin of the NSW Police Homicide Squad said he thought it was "highly likely" police had already come across the perpetrator of the crime.

"The strongest likelihood is that we've already got the name of the person involved," he said.

’’While the kidnapper may be male or female, police believe there is a strong chance they were acting as a lone operator.

They likely have links to the Port Macquarie area, but do not necessarily live there.

It is no longer believed the kidnapper is a member of a pedophile ring.’​

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https://www.9news.com.au/national/2...ghly-likely-police-have-encountered-kidnapper

[video=youtube;yqPbDKifQzE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqPbDKifQzE[/video]

 

[louisepiglet]

I think you have hit the nail right on the head. (And, yes, the girl victims are related to Spedding ... imo).


BBM
"They were either visiting, residing or working in the small NSW town of Kendall that day.
They were acting on impulse, they took tremendous risks and they almost certainly made mistakes."

"There may be a misconception that there is a lot that we don't know about this case. I've visited the crime scene multiple times and there is a lot of information that that location tells us," Dr Yule said.
"Combining that with assessing all the leads that have come into the investigation so far, there really are a limited number of possibilities that can account for William's disappearance and from that there are actually a lot of inferences we can draw about what has likely happened and the likely personality of a person or persons who may be involved."

"It does seem that this was an opportunistic crime and when somebody makes that kind of impulsive decision, mistakes are made and it's those kind of mistakes that the investigation is focusing on," Dr Yule (senior criminal analyst working with Strike Force Rosann) said.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...illiam-tyrrells-abductor-20150911-gjkqyz.html

BBM. They can't have made too many mistakes because there has been no arrest yet.

 

[Blues Clues]

‘The Central Coast woman said she had spoken with detectives at least five times since she made the call and has provided formal statements to investigators.’

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...e/news-story/54bac0bd69756a7711ce3de6925093d1

First Post.
Hi Sleuthers, I have followed William's case since day dot and am disappointed to still be none the wiser as to this mystery. He is out there somewhere and needs to be returned no matter what.

Bohemian I have changed my mind or ruled out others who might have been the Central Coast woman due to location, age and memory. It is my opinion the Central Coast woman is CH the victims mother.

 

[Bohemian]

First Post.
Hi Sleuthers, I have followed William's case since day dot and am disappointed to still be none the wiser as to this mystery. He is out there somewhere and needs to be returned no matter what.

Bohemian I have changed my mind or ruled out others who might have been the Central Coast woman due to location, age and memory. It is my opinion the Central Coast woman is CH the victims mother.

Hi BC and welcome. I share your disappointment but after reading about the way DCI Jubelin has overseen other investigations, I am absolutely sure William&#8217;s case can be solved and he will be returned.

I agree with you about the identity of the &#8216;Central Coast woman&#8217;.

 

[Cagney&Lacey]

Yes, I omitted all that stuff because I didn't want to upset the people who don't like to think that William may be deceased. Which I think he likely is.

I omitted it on purpose.

Thanks for your consideration SA. I'm in that camp. Much appreciated.


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[Bohemian]

Thanks for your consideration SA. I'm in that camp. Much appreciated.


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FWIW C&L I&#8217;m in that camp too. Unless the NSW Coroner finds otherwise.

 

[Hbayne]

BBM. They can't have made too many mistakes because there has been no arrest yet.

I would disagree, I think many mistakes were made and police know exactly by whom. Slow and steady wins the race

 

[louisepiglet]

I would disagree, I think many mistakes were made and police know exactly by whom. Slow and steady wins the race

BBM. What sort of mistakes are you thinking?

 

[SouthAussie]

BBM. What sort of mistakes are you thinking?

Well, one thing seems apparent ... none of the POIs alibis have stood up to the test. They haven't had their POI status changed, which would happen if their alibis for the relevant time period could be absolutely confirmed.

Confirmation would mean that there was no way the POI could have been on Benaroon Drive when William disappeared that morning.

So, evidently, someone has fabricated an alibi. And the police very likely know that.

If it is Spedding (as I think it is) he made the mistake of involving others in his alibi, saying he was in a public place(s) where others should have seen and remembered him. It is a small town.

There are likely other mistakes, too. Ones we don't know the details of. One of them perhaps being a phone not pinging in the Laurieton area when it should have been (if an alibi was true).

 

[Hbayne]

BBM. What sort of mistakes are you thinking?

Pretty much the same as what SA has posted above.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Well, one thing seems apparent ... none of the POIs alibis have stood up to the test. They haven't had their POI status changed, which would happen if their alibis for the relevant time period could be absolutely confirmed.

Confirmation would mean that there was no way the POI could have been on Benaroon Drive when William disappeared that morning.

So, evidently, someone has fabricated an alibi. And the police very likely know that.

If it is Spedding (as I think it is) he made the mistake of involving others in his alibi, saying he was in a public place(s) where others should have seen and remembered him. It is a small town.

There are likely other mistakes, too. Ones we don't know the details of. One of them perhaps being a phone not pinging in the Laurieton area when it should have been (if an alibi was true).

bbm
I'm very curious on who that might be .... :waiting:

 

[Truthsleuth99]

That’s the part I don’t get. BS can’t verify his alibi ( hence still a poi )
Yet, he has a solid alibi in MS ( her word )
The police obviously do not believe her account of where he was that day. Due to contradictory evidence ( phone pings etc )
Either she can’t remember and he’s convinced her? Or she’s deliberately covering for him? If this is the case - I hope she is charged for hindering an investigation.
The police has offered every opportunity for someone to speak out. They will be safe and financially taken care of. Just need to do the right thing.
I don’t understand, her mindset
Why would you want to stay with someone who you suspect could be involved in hurting a child ? We know she has doubts - or she wouldn’t consult the psychic and her body language indicates it.IMO

 

[Eloise]

Why would you want to stay with someone who you suspect could be involved in hurting a child ? We know she has doubts - or she wouldn’t consult the psychic and her body language indicates it.IMO

Fear of being alone, fear of retribution, love sick are the most likely reasons imo

Maybe that person doesn't think they'd be safe. I wish I could remember the case (it was a MP case decades old where a mistress was murdered by a man who was very violent) where the wife didn't tell anyone what she knew, even though the husband had been in jail for something else, until the cops showed her the death certificate. She didn't even believe them when they told her it was safe to talk because he'd died in jail. She needed proof that wasn't going to get her somehow, she was that scared of him and what he could do even from jail. Now, it could be argued that the right thing to do is talk even though you could be at risk yourself, but it's hard to argue with basic survival instinct imo. I don't know if that's a factor in this case, maybe it's not, but it could be.