Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #33

[Truthsleuth99]

I’ve studied other cases over the years with men accused of abusing children. Majority of the women stand by their men!!
Case example : Paul Bickfords wife refuses to believe in his guilt even after being found guilty. I agree with you on some parts - I think the main factor would be fear.
Fear of the unknown or judgment from the public.
I honestly believe whoever is responsible of taken William, someone close to that individual/s knows or has deep suspicions that person/s is involved..... but fear or judgment is holding them back from coming forward.
The only way their coming forward is if
Their loved one has cheated ( scorned women ) senario? Or someone passes away!

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Maybe, a huge avalanche would get started when one person (MS for example) reveals something.
Mannny enemies (partially unknown) to fear.

 

[Whàngarei]

Sandra B has fooled some people it seems.

 

[SouthAussie]

From what I have read, Sandra Bickford seems more concerned with her own life, than the life of the child her husband was convicted of abusing. imo

I think that Margaret Spedding might have a similar reaction, if she told what she must deeply suspect about Spedding ... and told what I believe she knows about his unconfirmed alibi. These people seem more concerned for themselves, than for the victims.


“It has wrecked my life big time,” Bickford’s wife Sandra said. “I’ve been married to the man 47 years.”

Paul Bickford, who stepped down as GAPA president for “family reasons” last year, is serving a 16-month suspended sentence for indecently assaulting an 11-year-old girl who suffers from Asperger’s syndrome during a drive to the shops to buy her lollies.
The victim’s mother said of the once senior volunteer of the year: “a bullet is too good — you can use a machete”.
She said her daughter had been deeply scarred by the ordeal and remains “volatile”.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...rance-of-toddler/story-e6frg6n6-1227513613906

 

[Whàngarei]

All about themselves .. its what binds them all together.self serving

 

[Truthsleuth99]

All about themselves .. its what binds them all together.self serving

Agree with both of you.
MS has shown her true colours when she contacted Victims along with BS
I believe t both Ms & BS have that victim mentality. Showing no concern for others, even William’s family or the Victims of the abuse. There seems to be a lot of blame being placed on the media and police for BS current situation.

 

[Hbayne]

Agree with both of you.
MS has shown her true colours when she contacted Victims along with BS
I believe t both Ms & BS have that victim mentality. Showing no concern for others, even William’s family or the Victims of the abuse. There seems to be a lot of blame being placed on the media and police for BS current situation.

Yes I don’t see MS as some fearful wife, quite the opposite in fact. I reckon she wears the pants.

 

[Josie2014]

The "victim friendly" rule extends to the family members of victims and suspects. Sleuthing family members, friends, and others who have not been designated as suspects is not allowed. Don't make random accusations, suggest their involvement, nor bash and attack them.

Just a question, does this rule extend to the family of POI's in this case?

 

[SouthAussie]

The "victim friendly" rule extends to the family members of victims and suspects. Sleuthing family members, friends, and others who have not been designated as suspects is not allowed. Don't make random accusations, suggest their involvement, nor bash and attack them.

Just a question, does this rule extend to the family of POI's in this case?

I don't see anybody sleuthing family members of anybody. We are discussing matters that have been published in MSM. I have provided MSM links in my posts.

I think we are allowed to discuss what the POI wives have commented on or done, as published in MSM.

One of them is providing a covering alibi for her husband, the others have commented on their POI husbands' child sex convictions. And we have opinions and theories. (Sorry, two are providing covering alibis ... Bickford was having lunch with his wife.)

Margaret Spedding has also visibly featured in MSM, as she accompanies William Spedding everywhere ... to the police station in William's inquiry, to court for his child sex charges ....

I think it should be noted that the police are asking and pleading and offering a huge reward for someone to assist them with the possible 'different' behaviour of a family member (POI?), with regard to William's disappearance.

His wife Margaret is critical to his alibi in the William Tyrrell case, claiming they were drinking coffee together at a café in Laurieton, 10-minutes from Kendall, at the time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3438650/The-persons-William-Tyrrell-case.html

Bickford recounted to The Daily Telegraph what he was doing on September 12, 2014, as he and his wife entertained friends for lunch but he struggled to recall the location.
https://myaccount.news.com.au/sites...9a6a6135237b777ca8d545f6d14&memtype=anonymous

 

[Josie2014]

I don't see anybody sleuthing family members of anybody. We are discussing matters that have been published in MSM. I have provided MSM links in my posts.

I think we are allowed to discuss what the POI wives have commented on or done, as published in MSM.

One of them is providing a covering alibi for her husband, the others have commented on their POI husbands' child sex convictions. And we have opinions and theories. (Sorry, two are providing covering alibis ... Bickford was having lunch with his wife.)

Margaret Spedding has also visibly featured in MSM, as she accompanies William Spedding everywhere ... to the police station in William's inquiry, to court for his child sex charges ....

I think it should be noted that the police are asking and pleading and offering a huge reward for someone to assist them with the possible 'different' behaviour of a family member (POI?), with regard to William's disappearance.


His wife Margaret is critical to his alibi in the William Tyrrell case, claiming they were drinking coffee together at a café in Laurieton, 10-minutes from Kendall, at the time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3438650/The-persons-William-Tyrrell-case.html

Not suggesting anything SA, it was just a question. The rule says family members of victims and suspects and I wondered if that also extended to POI's.

 

[SouthAussie]

Not suggesting anything SA, it was just a question. The rule says family members of victims and suspects and I wondered if that also extended to POI's.

If people were sleuthing uninvolved people, then yes they should be protected.
MSM articles are fine. We are not discussing anything personal about them, where they work, what they do, etc etc. Only what is in MSM.

Just explaining.

 

[Josie2014]

If people were sleuthing uninvolved people, then yes they should be protected.
MSM articles are fine. We are not discussing anything personal about them, where they work, what they do, etc etc. Only what is in MSM.

Just explaining.

I mustn't be making myself clear.

My question was; Suspect and POI ~~ in the context of the rule are they the same thing?

Probably not a question I should be asking here.

 

[SouthAussie]

I mustn't be making myself clear.

My question was; Suspect and POI ~~ in the context of the rule are they the same thing?

Probably not a question I should be asking here.

If we are not allowed to sleuth the neighbours or anyone else, which we are not, I am pretty sure that you can surmise that anything not mentioned in MSM, pertaining to anyone surrounding the case, is not allowed.

And just opinions and theories. If you don't like an opinion, they usually say to roll and scroll.

You can always ask a mod, if you can't work it out.

 

[Hbayne]

The "victim friendly" rule extends to the family members of victims and suspects. Sleuthing family members, friends, and others who have not been designated as suspects is not allowed. Don't make random accusations, suggest their involvement, nor bash and attack them.

Just a question, does this rule extend to the family of POI's in this case?

I can see where you are coming from. If you are referring to MS , my observation of her is from what I’ve seen in MSM . She ain’t no shrinking violet IMO . That opinion is also based from things we can’t discuss here

 

[Warshawski]

First Post.
Hi Sleuthers, I have followed William's case since day dot and am disappointed to still be none the wiser as to this mystery. He is out there somewhere and needs to be returned no matter what.

Bohemian I have changed my mind or ruled out others who might have been the Central Coast woman due to location, age and memory. It is my opinion the Central Coast woman is CH the victims mother.

hey & welcome Blue Clues ( maybe about to be tagged as 'Blue' or even perhaps 'BC' in the essence of our speed typing &#128540 but still most welcome with your thoughts & input, as we all strive for an answer to the disappearance of William. A little boy, who should still be a carefree & funloving little boy, safe & secure in his family unit.

i have a question - who is CH ?

Thank you

 

[SouthAussie]

I can see where you are coming from. If you are referring to MS , my observation of her is from what I’ve seen in MSM . She ain’t no shrinking violet IMO . That opinion is also based from things we can’t discuss here

When I was looking for some info on Hillsley last night, I came across the letter that Margaret wrote to cover Spedding's bail period. The one where she said she would keep all children away from her home so Spedding could still live with her.

“I’m prepared for William (Spedding) to reside with me if he is granted bail. Whilst William *resides with me, there will be no children residing at or visiting the residence,” the letter states.
Margaret Spedding made the offer in a letter sent to the judge who yesterday ordered her husband’s release after he was charged with sexually assaulting two young sisters in Sydney in 1987.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...e/news-story/8f5d17c8aa7e9785070232fd65e017b7
I’ll keep kids away, wife tells judge

If the NSW court case is over .... I wonder what the bail conditions are for the Vic charges. Surely they would have changed, to accommodate the Vic charges. Perhaps, hopefully, he is still being kept away from children.


The lawyer told the court that Spedding lives 400 kilometres north of Sydney and current bail conditions on unrelated NSW matters restricted him from leaving the state.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/...ictorian-court-next-year-20161020-gs6kns.html

 

[SouthAussie]

hey & welcome Blue Clues ( maybe about to be tagged as 'Blue' or even perhaps 'BC' in the essence of our speed typing �&#65533 but still most welcome with your thoughts & input, as we all strive for an answer to the disappearance of William. A little boy, who should still be a carefree & funloving little boy, safe & secure in his family unit.

i have a question - who is CH ?

Thank you

I believe CH is Spedding's ex-wife and John Hillsley's sister.


Mr Hillsley is the brother of Mr Spedding's ex-wife, Catherine.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...dering-rapist-court-told-20150615-ghnx8h.html
Bill Spedding's ex-brother-in-law a murdering rapist, court told

 

[sosocurious]

When I was looking for some info on Hillsley last night, I came across the letter that Margaret wrote to cover Spedding's bail period. The one where she said she would keep all children away from her home so Spedding could still live with her.




If the NSW court case is over .... I wonder what the bail conditions are for the Vic charges. Surely they would have changed, to accommodate the Vic charges. Perhaps, hopefully, he is still being kept away from children.


The lawyer told the court that Spedding lives 400 kilometres north of Sydney and current bail conditions on unrelated NSW matters restricted him from leaving the state.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/...ictorian-court-next-year-20161020-gs6kns.html

Was he even on bail for the Victorian charges?

Spedding, 65, is facing seven charges of indecent assault children in Victoria between 1983 and 1987.
Police charged him on summons earlier this month.
On Thursday, the magistrate excused Spedding, who lives in regional NSW, from appearing in person.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-...l-spedding-will-try-to-stop-nsw-trial/7669984

What happens after the police have interviewed me?
The police may:
• release you from custody without charging you
• release you from custody but charge you later. The police will serve your charges through a summons
• release you from custody and give you a notice to appear. You will have to go to court within 14 days
• charge you but release you on bail
• charge you and keep you in custody until the court is open for a magistrate to decide if you will be released on bail.
https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/sit...rce-police-powers-your-rights-in-victoria.pdf

 

[Truthsleuth99]

Who thinks the police strategically
charged BS with historicals?! - in the hope it would make BS crack ( or ms) under police and public pressure with information regarding William! Even though police have stated it’s not related.
I believe it most definitely is now!! I was sceptical of this before, that police would use these types of tactics.
I couldn’t imagine SFR wasting resources and time attending his arrest and court proceedings, if they believed BS wasn’t involved with Williams disappearance. JMO
When will this end ?! IS there any update on BS Victorian charges?

 

[Morrisa]

KT court appearance yesterday around the 23.30 mark

https://www.9now.com.au/nine-news-sydney/2018/episode-90