Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #33

[Bohemian]

IF (very big if) he has been abducted and murdered, it's not BS. I don't see BS as a murderer at all. moo

If ~~ because I don't think we can be definite until the case is solved. There is just too little from FR to go on. Abduction and murder is a possibility for sure, I wasn't suggesting it wasn't but in my mind it is not BS.

TGY to me, if this is abduction and murder, it is someone younger, fitter, a social misfit, a psychopath, someone more like Cowan. I don't think BS fits the profile. Moo

I agree with you, Josie.

 

[SouthAussie]

A child molester should be young and fit, and a social misfit, to abuse a 3 year old??? Better tell that to all the more elderly pedos out there.

Do people really think that a possible murder was intentional?

I think William's demise was a result of the actions and then the immediate full-scale, high-profile search for him.


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[SouthAussie]

TGY to me, if this is abduction and murder, it is someone younger, fitter, a social misfit, a psychopath, someone more like Cowan. I don't think BS fits the profile. Moo

Is there a profile for what has been classed as a once in a decade crime?

 

[they'll get you]

TGY to me, if this is abduction and murder, it is someone younger, fitter, a social misfit, a psychopath, someone more like Cowan. I don't think BS fits the profile. Moo

I agree it could be anyone who was in that quiet cul de sac that morning, someone who was meant to be there, someone who might have had a get away vehicle. Someone quick and not necessarily young. William was small and easily picked up and as his FM said ‘grabbed and gone’.
Are meter readers or delivery drivers out and about that time of morning? I guess yes?

Was BS at that school, coffee shop and did he go to Beneroon Drive that morning? Those answers hold the key.


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[Bohemian]

Disregard the sections about parental homicide as William’s biological and foster parents have been eliminated from the investigation:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-raj-persaud/child-protection_b_1950749.html

 

[Bohemian]

Karlie has made (what passes for) the news in the DM again:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-embattled-mother-Karlie-mystery-new-man.html

 

[Truthsleuth99]

So that’s it then? The general consensus is that William has been abducted and murdered and all that’s left is for BS to be charged?

I believe so. All the actions of SFR leads me to believe this is the case. They’re slowly building a case against him, using all means possible, theyre trying to isolate him and create a divide between his loved one. Hoping MS or someone close will come forward with a piece of the puzzle that helps secure a conviction. Imo

 

[Josie2014]

A child molester should be young and fit, and a social misfit, to abuse a 3 year old??? Better tell that to all the more elderly pedos out there.

Do people really think that a possible murder was intentional?

I think William's demise was a result of the actions and then the immediate full-scale, high-profile search for him.


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Not what I was saying SA. An abductor and murderer is, to me, more likely to be younger and fitter than BS. Besides his age, BS has or had Ross river fever.

I agree it is very possible that after abduction the full scale search brought about his demise.

 

[Truthsleuth99]

I don’t think it would take much to subdue a 3 year old. If it was BS ( which I believe it was)
William seems to fit the age of his other victims. Most offenders who abuse children are gender neutral.
I think BS would be capable of this type of crime - especially with the amount of violence the alleged victims described in theyre sworn affidavits.
I also think BS would be cautious of almost being being charged in the 80’s - this could potentially weigh on a persons mind? Make them act out more than usual?

 

[Jennifer17]

Not what I was saying SA. An abductor and murderer is, to me, more likely to be younger and fitter than BS. Besides his age, BS has or had Ross river fever.

I agree it is very possible that after abduction the full scale search brought about his demise.

I had Ross River Fever ten years ago. I recovered and have had no ill effects. Lots of hypochondriacs claim that it has ongoing effects.

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[Hbayne]

I don’t think it would take much to subdue a 3 year old. If it was BS ( which I believe it was)
William seems to fit the age of his other victims. Most offenders who abuse children are gender neutral.
I think BS would be capable of this type of crime - especially with the amount of violence the alleged victims described in theyre sworn affidavits.
I also think BS would be cautious of almost being being charged in the 80’s - this could potentially weigh on a persons mind? Make them act out more than usual?

So right. A three year old a lot easier to abduct and get into a vehicle than an older child.

 

[Hbayne]

Karlie has made (what passes for) the news in the DM again:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-embattled-mother-Karlie-mystery-new-man.html

Well hopefully For her little boys he is a good influence and can help her keep out of trouble !

 

[Jennifer17]

I don’t think it would take much to subdue a 3 year old. If it was BS ( which I believe it was)
William seems to fit the age of his other victims. Most offenders who abuse children are gender neutral.
I think BS would be capable of this type of crime - especially with the amount of violence the alleged victims described in theyre sworn affidavits.
I also think BS would be cautious of almost being being charged in the 80’s - this could potentially weigh on a persons mind? Make them act out more than usual?

And little kids do as they are told by grandfather figures. Years ago, I found a little boy on the beach crying because he had been playing in the shallow water on a surf beach and the swell had washed him down, as it does and he couldn't find where his family was. He willingly came with me when I suggesed we walk up the beach and find his mother. We did find his mother who was frantically looking for him, but i could have been anyone. He would have gone with a man as easily as he went with me. And most men he went with would probably have the same good intentions, but some don't.

 

[SouthAussie]

Not what I was saying SA. An abductor and murderer is, to me, more likely to be younger and fitter than BS. Besides his age, BS has or had Ross river fever.

I agree it is very possible that after abduction the full scale search brought about his demise.

I agree with Jennifer about Ross River Fever. Everything I have read says a person is fully recovered after 6 months, a few people may take one to two years to recover. A few people claim they have ongoing depression and fatigue. Certainly nothing that would inhibit a person from abducting a little 3 year old (or working a repair business, helping care for 3 young grandchildren, going to footy practise, swimming).

(eg: http://healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/N_R/Ross-River-virus-and-Barmah-Forest-virus or http://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/w...-+including+symptoms+treatment+and+prevention)


As far as age goes, it is interesting to note the ages of all 3 named POIs ... evidently the police do not agree with your theory. And they are the ones that are using profilers, psychologists, investigators, and the full facts.

Anthony Jones, around 60 years old (at the time) http://www.news.com.au/national/cou...d/news-story/d9ec79b9a306ce05f01558790c3b5fc4

Paul Bickford, around 68 years old (at the time) https://seventhvoice.wordpress.com/...y-abusing-young-girl-with-aspergers-syndrome/

Bill Spedding, around 63 years old (at the time) https://www.smh.com.au/national/wil...sex-offences-in-victoria-20160727-gqf0wo.html

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[Josie2014]

I agree with Jennifer about Ross River Fever. Everything I have read says a person is fully recovered after 6 months, a few people may take one to two years to recover. A few people claim they have ongoing depression and fatigue. Certainly nothing that would inhibit a person from abducting a little 3 year old (or working a repair business, helping care for 3 young grandchildren, going to footy practise, swimming).

(eg: http://healthywa.wa.gov.au/Articles/N_R/Ross-River-virus-and-Barmah-Forest-virus or http://www.sahealth.sa.gov.au/wps/w...-+including+symptoms+treatment+and+prevention)


As far as age goes, it is interesting to note the ages of all 3 named POIs ... evidently the police do not agree with your theory. And they are the ones that are using profilers, psychologists, investigators, and the full facts.

Anthony Jones, around 60 years old (at the time) http://www.news.com.au/national/cou...d/news-story/d9ec79b9a306ce05f01558790c3b5fc4

Paul Bickford, around 68 years old (at the time) https://seventhvoice.wordpress.com/...y-abusing-young-girl-with-aspergers-syndrome/

Bill Spedding, around 63 years old (at the time) https://www.smh.com.au/national/wil...sex-offences-in-victoria-20160727-gqf0wo.html

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It's not my theory, I was responding to Bo's post ~~

So that’s it then? The general consensus is that William has been abducted and murdered and all that’s left is for BS to be charged?


I don't believe BS is a murderer :moo:

I have also had Ross River Fever and Barmah Forest Fever

 

[SouthAussie]

O/T

Oliver Yang, 12, taken from the Gold Coast yesterday. Police are seeking urgent assistance.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...udgeeraba-11-May-2018&p=14104280#post14104280

 

[Bohemian]

In the HuffPost article I posted earlier:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-33&p=14102548#post14102548

One of the referenced articles, ‘Investigative Case Management for Missing Children Homicides’ described the characteristics of the perpetrators of these crimes (pp. 13-25):

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/201253NCJRS.pdf

 

[JLZ]

About Tony Jones saying he was going to see "Paul". Did he actually name "Paul Bickford"? Or did he say something like "Paul, at the pub in Laurieton"? Were Jones and PB on such terms that Katrina and/or whoever automatically knew that "Paul" always meant PB? (PB said he and Jones were acquaintances rather than friends.) Could Jones have been meaning to visit another Paul?

 

[Bohemian]

About Tony Jones saying he was going to see "Paul". Did he actually name "Paul Bickford"? Or did he say something like "Paul, at the pub in Laurieton"? Were Jones and PB on such terms that Katrina and/or whoever automatically knew that "Paul" always meant PB? (PB said he and Jones were acquaintances rather than friends.) Could Jones have been meaning to visit another Paul?

It’s possible, I suppose, but Paul who?

 

[JLZ]

It’s possible, I suppose, but Paul who?

There's got to be a Paul or two between Benaroon and Ellendale. I think we know of one. Jones could have been heading to see someone local, picked up William instead because he was there, and afterwards given the impression that he meant Bickford so as to distance himself from the area. . . . I don't know. Just rambling thoughts.

That second link was very interesting, Bo.