Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[Karinna]

Suspect , poi are they one and the same here . I ask this legitimately as I don’t know
I recall from a news report on Allison Baden Clay that Gerard was not a suspect . when in actual fact we now know he was from day one . Police Strategy ? I know this case was solved a lot earlier than this one. Just a comparison to what police divulge .

POI legally means nothing. Unless anyone can find a link from Australia that states otherwise?

 

[sleepinoz]

POI legally means nothing. Unless anyone can find a link from Australia that states otherwise?

How about one from the Cambridge Dictionary, as Australia tends to follow the English way of things.

person of interest Meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

 

[Thebottomline]

POI legally means nothing. Unless anyone can find a link from Australia that states otherwise?

I didn’t mention legally . If the detectives say someone is a poi then I’m sure THEY have checked out the legalities of that.

 

[Thebottomline]

How about one from the Cambridge Dictionary, as Australia tends to follow the English way of things.

person of interest Meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

Sleep in Oz , thankyou

 

[Thebottomline]

POI legally means nothing. Unless anyone can find a link from Australia that states otherwise?

Can you provide a link to your statement that legally poi means nothing ?

 

[Karinna]

Can you provide a link to you statement that legally poi means nothing ?

No because there is no definition in my google searches of the meaning of the term POI in Australia. It just isn't accessible.
But if someone can find that information i would be very interested in seeing a link to it.

 

[Thebottomline]

No because there is no definition in my google searches of the meaning of the term POI in Australia.
But if someone can find that information i would be very interested in seeing a link to it.

Perhaps you shouldn’t make that statement then. Just because it doesn’t offer you an answer on google. An MOO might help

 

[Goosewhisperer]

BBM:

Police have stressed Mr Spedding is not a suspect, but a person of interest in the case.

‘‘At the very highest he is a person of interest but he is not the only person of interest,’’ Superintendent Willing said.

It appears by the above that the Police do not think suspect and poi are the same thing. They have two different meanings. BS is not a suspect (not suspected of committing a crime) he is a person of interest (because he had been to the FGH to do business prior to William going missing).

I think perhaps this is why there are people out there who defend BS. He is only a person of interest not a suspect. The neighbours/people who heard and/or saw the children playing would be classed as a person of interest too.​

I am not sure why anyone is seen as defending BS, simply because they question the way some things are written or said in MSM. It seems to be a common accusation when the conversation does not meet an agreement.

 

[Karinna]

Perhaps you shouldn’t make that statement then.

Why not? If there is no meaning of it to find what can we suppose it legally means?

 

[Thebottomline]

deleted sorry

 

[Karinna]

I did find this Definition of POI
(quote)
Person of interest

"Person of interest" is a term used by U.S. law enforcement when identifying someone involved in a criminal investigation who has not been arrested or formally accused of a crime. It has no legal meaning, but refers to someone in whom the police are "interested", either because the person is cooperating with the investigation, may have information that would assist the investigation, or possesses certain characteristics that merit further attention. While terms such as suspect, target, and material witness have clear and sometimes formal definitions, person of interest remains undefined by the U.S. Department of Justice. Unsub is a similar term which is short for "unknown subject". Person of interest is sometimes used as a euphemism for suspect, and its careless use may encourage trials by media.
What does Person Of Interest mean?

 

[Thebottomline]

Why not? If there is no meaning of it to find what can we suppose it legally means?

Well obviously “ legally” he has been named as a poi . As have a few others . I see no dispute there . It’s plain and simple.

 

[Thebottomline]

I did find this Definition of POI
(quote)
Person of interest

"Person of interest" is a term used by U.S. law enforcement when identifying someone involved in a criminal investigation who has not been arrested or formally accused of a crime. It has no legal meaning, but refers to someone in whom the police are "interested", either because the person is cooperating with the investigation, may have information that would assist the investigation, or possesses certain characteristics that merit further attention. While terms such as suspect, target, and material witness have clear and sometimes formal definitions, person of interest remains undefined by the U.S. Department of Justice. Unsub is a similar term which is short for "unknown subject". Person of interest is sometimes used as a euphemism for suspect, and its careless use may encourage trials by media.
What does Person Of Interest mean?

From U.S law

 

[Karinna]

How about one from the Cambridge Dictionary, as Australia tends to follow the English way of things.

person of interest Meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

Thanks.

 

[Karinna]

From U.S law

Yes because there is nothing i could find from an Australian source online.

 

[Thebottomline]

I did find this Definition of POI
(quote)
Person of interest

"Person of interest" is a term used by U.S. law enforcement when identifying someone involved in a criminal investigation who has not been arrested or formally accused of a crime. It has no legal meaning, but refers to someone in whom the police are "interested", either because the person is cooperating with the investigation, may have information that would assist the investigation, or possesses certain characteristics that merit further attention. While terms such as suspect, target, and material witness have clear and sometimes formal definitions, person of interest remains undefined by the U.S. Department of Justice. Unsub is a similar term which is short for "unknown subject". Person of interest is sometimes used as a euphemism for suspect, and its careless use may encourage trials by media.
What does Person Of Interest mean?

The USA still have the death penalty, our Judicial system here in Aus works very differently

 

[Thebottomline]

Yes because there is nothing i could find from an Australian source online.

Well I guess there you go . No point in posting America’s definition. It’s an Australian case.

 

[sleepinoz]

Why not? If there is no meaning of it to find what can we suppose it legally means?

I don't think you will ever find a "legal" definition of POI. Legally the courts don't deal with POI's, they deal with people charged with the offence.

You may find definitions on Google from Dictionary's, the USA etc, but they aren't actually legal either.

POI's are only of interest to Police, not Courts in the legal sense. IMO.

 

[Thebottomline]

Yes because there is nothing i could find from an Australian source online.

Well if that’s the case and you can’t find anything then you are not qualified here to say that tha a poi means nothing legally.

 

[Karinna]

I don't think you will ever find a "legal" definition of POI. Legally the courts don't deal with POI's, they deal with people charged with the offence.

You may find definitions on Google from Dictionary's, the USA etc, but they aren't actually legal either.

POI's are only of interest to Police, not Courts in the legal sense. IMO.

Yes of course, and that is why i said IMO it doesn't really mean anything. I just think it's misleading to a lot of people though when someone is defined as a POI in the media, because it can mislead members of the public into thinking the named person is guilty of something, when they are not in some cases.