Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[Bohemian]

Why? What is it, that we don't know?
Why this high reward? "On the second anniversary of the disappearance of William Tyrrell, the NSW Government announces a $1 million reward for information"

I’m not sure I know what you mean, FG. Why is it a once in a generation type crime, a once in a career type investigation? It is what it is. What is it that we don’t know? Much. Why this high reward? To appeal to the ‘someone [who] knows something’ so they will tell what they know and William will be recovered:

$1 million NSW Government reward announced for the return on William Tyrrell - NSW Police Public Site

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[Cagney&Lacey]

Today in my estate a 3 year old boy was found by a resident and posted on the neighbourhood watch site. I live in an acreage estate similar to Benaroon drive but slightly smaller blocks. We don’t all have fences and kids freely ride their bikes on the street and walk to the local park. Kids play freely and don’t have a parent with eyes on them every second. Neighbours watch out for other kids and supervise as a group. It’s what my kids have always known and our neighbours are all of the same mind set.

As it turns out this kid had wandered through a secluded bike track that connects to our estate, played on the swings for a while then walked along the road until a neighbour approached him.

Within minutes our Neughbourhood Watch FB page was notified and it was confirmed he wasn’t a resident’s child. Long story short someone knew someone and we found his address. He was returned home to his distraught mum.

I guess this event just made me think of William. IF ONLY....

This kid was lucky. He didn’t come across anyone sinister. He walked into an area that had an active Neighbourhood Watch. Social media helped reconnect this boy with his parents. Parents aren’t always hovering and that shouldn’t be a bad strike against the parents. It’s all relative. I don’t for a minute blame Williams FP for not supervising every second of his time in that yard.

Little William just happened to be taken by some scum of the earth at a moment in time when opportunity presented itself. If only William was as lucky as the kid in my neighbourhood today.

 

[Bohemian]

Today in my estate a 3 year old boy was found by a resident and posted on the neighbourhood watch site. I live in an acreage estate similar to Benaroon drive but slightly smaller blocks. We don’t all have fences and kids freely ride their bikes on the street and walk to the local park. Kids play freely and don’t have a parent with eyes on them every second. Neighbours watch out for other kids and supervise as a group. It’s what my kids have always known and our neighbours are all of the same mind set.

As it turns out this kid had wandered through a secluded bike track that connects to our estate, played on the swings for a while then walked along the road until a neighbour approached him.

Within minutes our Neughbourhood Watch FB page was notified and it was confirmed he wasn’t a resident’s child. Long story short someone knew someone and we found his address. He was returned home to his distraught mum.

I guess this event just made me think of William. IF ONLY....

This kid was lucky. He didn’t come across anyone sinister. He walked into an area that had an active Neighbourhood Watch. Social media helped reconnect this boy with his parents. Parents aren’t always hovering and that shouldn’t be a bad strike against the parents. It’s all relative. I don’t for a minute blame Williams bios for not supervising every second of his time in that yard.

Little William just happened to be taken by some scum of the earth at a moment in time when opportunity presented itself. If only William was as lucky as the kid in my neighbourhood today.

Well said, C&L.

 

[Karinna]

Do you mean William's FP not supervising him? His bio's didn't have him when he went missing.

Today in my estate a 3 year old boy was found by a resident and posted on the neighbourhood watch site. I live in an acreage estate similar to Benaroon drive but slightly smaller blocks. We don’t all have fences and kids freely ride their bikes on the street and walk to the local park. Kids play freely and don’t have a parent with eyes on them every second. Neighbours watch out for other kids and supervise as a group. It’s what my kids have always known and our neighbours are all of the same mind set.

As it turns out this kid had wandered through a secluded bike track that connects to our estate, played on the swings for a while then walked along the road until a neighbour approached him.

Within minutes our Neughbourhood Watch FB page was notified and it was confirmed he wasn’t a resident’s child. Long story short someone knew someone and we found his address. He was returned home to his distraught mum.

I guess this event just made me think of William. IF ONLY....

This kid was lucky. He didn’t come across anyone sinister. He walked into an area that had an active Neighbourhood Watch. Social media helped reconnect this boy with his parents. Parents aren’t always hovering and that shouldn’t be a bad strike against the parents. It’s all relative. I don’t for a minute blame Williams bios for not supervising every second of his time in that yard.

Little William just happened to be taken by some scum of the earth at a moment in time when opportunity presented itself. If only William was as lucky as the kid in my neighbourhood today.

 

[Cagney&Lacey]

Do you mean William's FP not supervising him? His bio's didn't have him when he went missing.

Yes Karinna of course. I’d corrected my Post before or probably whilst you replied.

 

[Karinna]

All good. I thought you meant to say FP not bio.

Yes Karinna of course. I’d corrected my Post before or probably whilst you replied.

 

[Karinna]

I agree, little kids can go missing very quickly. I had the same thing happen with one of my boys about that age between 3-4 yrs. old. Right from my mother's front yard. I don't even know how he got past us without our noticing. He wasn't gone very long before we noticed and of course it was panic stations. My dad drove out in his car, and thank god found him about a half a mile away heading back to my parent's house, lol. He had crossed a main road back then too, although it wasn't in a city. It could of ended up more tragically, but thank goodness he was okay.
So yeah it can happen to anyone.

 

[Cagney&Lacey]

All good. I thought you meant to say FP not bio.

I know there are a lot of people blaming the FP for lack of supervision. I just wanted to get across that in certain parts of Australia we feel safe and communities co parent. We realise pedo’s are out there and keep vigilant in that respect as well.

There are areas where it’s a relative safe haven. It’s not that the parents are slack it’s that they believe it’s a safe neighbourhood. I’m not sure if that’s the case for WS overseas so I was just trying to explain how we feel here.

Sorry Karinna not sure I’m explaining this well enough

 

[Karinna]

Yes exactly & i totally understand what you're saying. It can happen to anyone at anytime no matter where we live on the planet. I think the world has become more dangerous now though, because back in those days we never really heard of so many child predators out there on the loose. I'm talking about early 1970's when my kids were little. We didn't worry about it so much. It certainly is a different world now though sadly.
Although my youngest boy was born in 1993, and it had already

I know there are a lot of people blaming the FP for lack of supervision. I just wanted to get across that in certain parts of Australia we feel safe and communities co parent. We realise pedo’s are out there and keep vigilant in that respect as well.

There are areas where it’s a relative safe haven. It’s not that the parents are slack it’s that they believe it’s a safe neighbourhood. I’m not sure if that’s the case for WS overseas so I was just trying to explain how we feel here.

Sorry Karinna not sure I’m explaining this well enough

changed by then. It's awful we even have to worry about things like that.

 

[Cagney&Lacey]

Yes but we are now in 2018 and I’m lucky to live in an area where we still think our kids are safe. I know we don’t have the use of pedo locations but our kids can still run free and be kids. Maybe the use of FB neighbourhood watch would have benefited the residents of Benaroon Drive.

 

[papertrail]

Why? What is it, that we don't know?
Why this high reward? "On the second anniversary of the disappearance of William Tyrrell, the NSW Government announces a $1 million reward for information"

Million dollar rewards are part of life these days. It is not 'special' with regard to William.

Neither is it special re the 'better you come to us before we come to you' mantra. Its been used for years. quite often a lower sentence is negotiated if perp fronts up. Quite often immunity is offered to cohorts.

 

[papertrail]

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Parents need to be very considered and mindful of what they display so openly to the public. Predators stalk sites. Check privacy settings. Keep in mind FB friends may not have secured their privacy settings.

Social media has made our world different in many ways and people forget to consider the negative side.

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[SouthAussie]

Why? What is it, that we don't know?
Why this high reward? "On the second anniversary of the disappearance of William Tyrrell, the NSW Government announces a $1 million reward for information"

"Mr Rolfe believes $1 million is more likely to act as an incentive for someone to step forward if they are on the fence about providing information.

Peter Rolfe, the president of group Support After Murder, who has been fighting for $1 million rewards to be offered in all unsolved murder cases in NSW.

He said providing information to police could lead to relationship breakdowns between family and friends, and may also involve uprooting people’s lives if they need to move interstate."

(ALSO ...... )

Minister for Police Troy Grant .... said Tyrrell’s was the highest reward ever offered in NSW and was made on the advice of detectives in charge of the case.

“Those detectives believe there is still a chance little William is alive and asked for the $1 million reward to help bring him home,” he said.


The other kids who aren’t worth nearly as much

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Why is it a once in a generation type crime, a once in a career type investigation?

^^ This.

 

[SouthAussie]

^^ This.

This was said by Dr Olav Nielssen because once in a decade a thrill killer or sexual deviant or some other bizarre circumstance comes along.

A very strange, unusual circumstance. Something out of the typical realm of crimes against children.


William’s disappearance is a “once in a decade crime”, according to Dr Olav Nielssen, a psychiatrist from the University of NSW who has studied juvenile homicides. More than half the children who are murdered die from violent abuse. Around a quarter are killed by psychotic parents or guardians. Ten to fifteen per cent of deaths are the result of teenagers fighting. And then there are the drug-addled parents who give their children methadone to help them sleep.

Once, every decade or so, “a child is abducted by some sexual deviant, or thrill killer, or in some other bizarre circumstance,” Nielssen says. These murders are extremely rare.

Australian Crime News

 

[papertrail]

This was said by Dr Olav Nielssen because once in a decade a thrill killer or sexual deviant or some other bizarre circumstance comes along.

A very strange, unusual circumstance. Something out of the typical realm of crimes against children.


William’s disappearance is a “once in a decade crime”, according to Dr Olav Nielssen, a psychiatrist from the University of NSW who has studied juvenile homicides. More than half the children who are murdered die from violent abuse. Around a quarter are killed by psychotic parents or guardians. Ten to fifteen per cent of deaths are the result of teenagers fighting. And then there are the drug-addled parents who give their children methadone to help them sleep.

Once, every decade or so, “a child is abducted by some sexual deviant, or thrill killer, or in some other bizarre circumstance,” Nielssen says. These murders are extremely rare.

Australian Crime News

And in a timeline sence William's abduction occurred a decade after Daniel's.

 

[Thebottomline]

And in a timeline sence William's abduction occurred a decade after Daniel's.

2003 and 2014 to be precise

 

[iailwa]

In OZ it's more like a 'twice in a decade' thing, but i know it's just terminology and I shouldn't be so an@l, but it's true... unfortunately

 

[iailwa]

Did anyone else hear human remains were found yesty? Up north (Townsville area)... haven't said yet whether female or male AFAIK, or age it always makes my heart sink when i hear this stuff

 

[iailwa]

Can open this Townsville newspaper but can't open the article about bones found (posted 4 hours ago). can anyone else?

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