Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[Bohemian]

I was merely stating the fact that WT went missing from Kendall and that's just the fact of the matter is all.

That, as far as we know, was coincidence. Where ‘evil met innocence’.

 

[butterstick]

Take your pick on the meaning of the word:
evidently-
without question; clearly; undoubtedly
to all appearances; apparently
obviously; clearly
apparently (but not necessarily); seemingly
Evidently definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary

Police are honing in on five “high priority person of interest” suspects linked to the disappearance of toddler William Tyrrell ...........
Police focus on 5 suspects for William Tyrrell inquest

OK I pick 'apparently'.

As it looks like we are judging on appearances. Which can be deceiving, especially when learning things via the media. And some people on here believe the police are using the media strategically to put people under pressure - which adds an extra angle of uncertainty.

No actual hard factual evidence.

 

[purpleandgreen]

OK I pick 'apparently'.

As it looks like we are judging on appearances. Which can be deceiving, especially when learning things via the media. And some people on here believe the police are using the media strategically to put people under pressure - which adds an extra angle of uncertainty.

No actual hard factual evidence.

BBM I thought most of us were judging purely on what's available in msm and in certain courts / legal documents. That's what I thought you did on WS. Nothing extraneous to that, as I said last night. Anything extraneous to that, eg Social Media is against WS TOS.

I think the factual evidence is coming, just like it has in the Ristevski case IMO. T's & I's.

 

[Karinna]

Not sure why the analogy between WT's case & Karen Ristevski's case?
One is NSW the other Victoria.
One involves a missing child the other a murdered spouse.
KR's case came to arresting the perp. and WT's case no one knows yet after almost 4 yrs.?

 

[Karinna]

And in WT's case there have been hundreds of POI's. Out of those some 600 or more POI's, BS was the only one so far with all the media attention, and was thoroughly forensically investigated so far, because i recall posting a link to that ages ago.
So if the POI's/suspects have now dwindled down to just a handful i gather the other hundreds are cleared?

 

[purpleandgreen]

Not sure why the analogy between WT's case & Karen Ristevski's case?
One is NSW the other Victoria.
One involves a missing child the other a murdered spouse.
KR's case came to arresting the perp. and WT's case no one knows yet after almost 4 yrs.?

The analogy is that I was replying to the assertion that we're judging on appearances, rather than what is published as MSM and case law documents etc.

If you re-read my post you'll see that I was comparing the 2 cases as far as collecting factual evidence, dotting the I's and crossing the T's so to speak, just like they did in Karen's case. Waiting until it's watertight. The methodology is the same, not the circumstances. IMO.

BTW, we don't know, that no-one knows, do we ? In fact at least one person knows, and I suspect more than one. Isn't it sad, that they won't come forward for justice for a little boy?

What is important though, is that the police know or, find out through their extensive and complete investigation. Just as they did in Karen's case, and many other cases.

Go our wonderful police forces.

 

[purpleandgreen]

And in WT's case there have been hundreds of POI's. Out of those some 600 or more POI's, BS was the only one so far with all the media attention, and was thoroughly forensically investigated so far, because i recall posting a link to that ages ago.
So if the POI's/suspects have now dwindled down to just a handful i gather the other hundreds are cleared?

Well we don't know that for certain, but you'd have to assume that yes, some of them have been cleared. I'm sure that information will be released to the public when the police deem it appropriate.

 

[Whàngarei]

Doubt we will ever get the full number of accomplices involved.

 

[iailwa]

OT. Does anyone know much about the MAKO files? Is it a vigilante thing? I can't work it out. Some horrendous offenders on there

 

[iailwa]

Doubt we will ever get the full number of accomplices involved.

accomplices? in his abduction? what if it WAS a lone wolf? There's nothing to suggest it wasn't...

 

[Karinna]

N/P. Yes i agree there is much we don't know about what is going on behind the scenes.
I certainly hope there will be resolution to WT's case and the person/s responsible are convicted.

The analogy is that I was replying to the assertion that we're judging on appearances, rather than what is published as MSM and case law documents etc.

If you re-read my post you'll see that I was comparing the 2 cases as far as collecting factual evidence, dotting the I's and crossing the T's so to speak, just like they did in Karen's case. Waiting until it's watertight. The methodology is the same, not the circumstances. IMO.

BTW, we don't know, that no-one know, do we ? In fact at least one person knows, and I suspect more than one. Isn't it sad, that they won't come forward for justice for a little boy.

What is important though, is that the police know or, find out through their extensive and complete investigation. Just as they did in Karen's case, and many other cases.

Go our wonderful police forces.

 

[Bohemian]

OT. Does anyone know much about the MAKO files? Is it a vigilante thing? I can't work it out. Some horrendous offenders on there

That website, which is not MSM, lists RCSO’s and RSO’s and their offences.

 

[purpleandgreen]

Doubt we will ever get the full number of accomplices involved.

Sadly, you could be right, whangarei.

 

[iailwa]

That website, which is not MSM, lists RCSO’s.

thanks BO. But i thought they cannot be named & shamed? is this a vigilante thing? is it allowed? I mean i like it, for sure.

 

[Karinna]

Is it usually LE procedure to officially publicly clear POI's in a criminal case in Australia?
I can't think of any cases where they have done that?
I think it's usually self explanatory when they arrest a perpetrator isn't it?

 

[iailwa]

yes,

And in WT's case there have been hundreds of POI's. Out of those some 600 or more POI's, BS was the only one so far with all the media attention, and was thoroughly forensically investigated so far, because i recall posting a link to that ages ago.
So if the POI's/suspects have now dwindled down to just a handful i gather the other hundreds are cleared?

Supposedly it has dwindled down to around 5 AFAIK. The last search hints that one at least lives in the vicinity of Kendall. All the POIs we know of, don't live close to Kendall. Think the music man moved after WT was taken...

 

[Karinna]

Yeah i think "suspects" is more in line with forthcoming arrests as opposed to POI. Usually anyway.

yes,


Supposedly it has dwindled down to around 5 AFAIK. The last search hints that one at least lives in the vicinity of Kendall. All the POIs we know of, don't live close to Kendall. Think the music man moved after WT was taken...

 

[purpleandgreen]

Is it usually LE procedure to officially publicly clear POI's in a criminal case in Australia?
I can't think of any cases where they have done that?
I think it's usually self explanatory when they arrest a perpetrator isn't it?

No idea, sorry, but once an arrest is made, well, yes, that tells us something.

 

[Bohemian]

thanks BO. But i thought they cannot be named & shamed? is this a vigilante thing? is it allowed? I mean i like it, for sure.

AFAIK their lists are based on MSM reports of their offences.

 

[iailwa]

Yeah i think "suspects" is more in line with forthcoming arrests as opposed to POI. Usually anyway.

i think they can be interchangeable, don't quote me on that... but MSM terms tend to be loose