Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[iailwa]

As an aside i looked at the humpy place i saw not far from WT's grans - on 6 maps. It appears to be about 20 metres wide. The funny thing is, its surrounded by bush but it leads directly onto batar creek road, & also connects to Benaroon (the culda sac end). I wonder if the police ever scoped this place out?

 

[iailwa]

I wish we knew. Poor little boy. And his loved ones. I can’t imagine what they’re going through. Whoever took William has a lot of grief to answer for.

def Bo. it's so sad.

 

[Bohemian]

As an aside i looked at the humpy place i saw not far from WT's grans - on 6 maps. It appears to be about 20 metres wide. The funny thing is, its surrounded by bush but it leads directly onto batar creek road, & also connects to Benaroon (the culda sac end). I wonder if the police ever scoped this place out?

I remember you posting about it. Interesting access. I don’t know if police ever scoped it out. Was it within the 1 sq km search area?

 

[Bohemian]

def Bo. it's so sad.

Heartbreakingly sad.

 

[butterstick]

Police searching a location and announcing someone knows why they are doing so.

It’s a promising thing, and at the time I was hopeful.

But in retrospect we don’t even know what they were looking for, and how or if that is connected to WT... if they had found what they wanted, the connection may still of been need led to be made by them. Assuming it wasn’t WT himself.

Announcing “someone knows why we are looking here” seems to be a good way to see who reacts, but maybe nobody did :\

 

[iailwa]

I remember you posting about it. Interesting access. I don’t know if police ever scoped it out. Was it within the 1 sq km search area?

No it was 2 km search area IIRC

 

[Karinna]

Sadly for whoever brazenly removed William from a residential address, they would of had to of been watching & waiting with anticipation he would be left outside all by himself out of view of FM & FGM to be able to do so, and commit their heinous act. And they also took a big risk of not being seen by any of the neighbours to grab a child.
That's why IMO they don't have a conscience and will never admit to what they did.

 

[iailwa]

Police searching a location and announcing someone knows why they are doing so.

It’s a promising thing, and at the time I was hopeful.

But in retrospect we don’t even know what they were looking for, and how or if that is connected to WT... if they had found what they wanted, the connection may still of been need led to be made by them. Assuming it wasn’t WT himself.

Announcing “someone knows why we are looking here” seems to be a good way to see who reacts, but maybe nobody did :\

In reality, sorry Butterstick, i didn't quite catch what you were saying. Can you repeat in another way> TY!

 

[Bohemian]

No it was 2 km search area IIRC

2 km from FGM’s former residence? If there at the time William disappeared, it would have been in the initial search zone. Also, I think the initial search radii were subsequently searched. I’ll look for a link or links.

 

[iailwa]

Sadly for whoever brazenly removed William from a residential address, they would of had to of been watching & waiting with anticipation he would be left outside all by himself out of view of FM & FGM to be able to do so, and commit their heinous act. And they also took a big risk of not being seen by any of the neighbours to grab a child.
That's why IMO they don't have a conscience and will never admit to what they did.

Here's an aerial view of WT grandmas. Given that the next door neighbours were away (one up from WT's toward the cul de sAc, same side as WTs)... if he was taken from the drive then probably it wasn't in the view of many people...

 

[Karinna]

Another issue that is very perplexing in this case IMO is the issue of the two vehicles seen on the street the day WT vanished.
How can it be at all strategic to not inform the public about it until some 12 mnths. after the fact, when memories of the day wouldn't be as fresh in people's minds? It makes no sense to me anyway, seeing as it could of been vital to know what the vehicles were doing there on the day.
Don't LE put as much information out there as soon as possible in case someone saw something suspicious in regard to those vehicles?

 

[iailwa]

2 km from FGM’s former residence? If there at the time William disappeared, it would have been in the initial search zone. Also, I think the initial search radii were subsequently searched. I’ll look for a link or links.

think you are right BO, probably no need for links....

 

[Karinna]

Wouldn't whoever took him still have to know it was risk free to do so? How did they know no one was home at the neighbours house?

Here's an aerial view of WT grandmas. Given that the next door neighbours were away (one up from WT's toward the cul de sAc, same side as WTs)... if he was taken from the drive then probably it wasn't in the view of many people...

 

[iailwa]

Another issue that is very perplexing in this case IMO is the issue of the two vehicles seen on the street the day WT vanished.
How can it be at all strategic to not inform the public about it until some 12 mnths. after the fact, when memories of the day wouldn't be as fresh in people's minds? It makes no sense to me anyway, seeing as it could of been vital to know what the vehicles were doing there on the day.
Don't LE put as much information out there as soon as possible in case someone saw something suspicious in regard to those vehicles?

well they don't, they like to keep things to their chest, what the killer (only) would know etc. It helps weed out the innocent & the guilty IMO

 

[Karinna]

But why would they keep it close to the chest in asking the public to any important information that could of possibly led to WT's recovery?
They did release the info. eventually, and as i said i can't see why it took so long?
How would LE have known about the vehicles otherwise?

well they don't, they like to keep things to their chest, what the killer (only) would know etc. It helps weed out the innocent & the guilty IMO

 

[Karinna]

I also gather by the time the FM called LE to the fact William was missing and they went out to the FGM's home to investigate, the vehicles were no longer there?

 

[JLZ]

Another issue that is very perplexing in this case IMO is the issue of the two vehicles seen on the street the day WT vanished.
How can it be at all strategic to not inform the public about it until some 12 mnths. after the fact, when memories of the day wouldn't be as fresh in people's minds? It makes no sense to me anyway, seeing as it could of been vital to know what the vehicles were doing there on the day.
Don't LE put as much information out there as soon as possible in case someone saw something suspicious in regard to those vehicles?

One of the challenges of a high-profile investigation is that police receive huge amounts of information which has to be processed and most of which turns out to be irrelevant. Can you imagine the wide net that would be cast by a request for information about two cars of extremely common colours and not much else known about either? In my opinion it's perfectly reasonably to hold back that inquiry until more likely leads have been explored.

 

[iailwa]

But why would they keep it close to the chest in asking the public to any important information that could of possibly led to WT's recovery?
They did release the info. eventually, and as i said i can't see why it took so long?
How would LE have known about the vehicles otherwise?

There is always something LE keep to themselves... it helps to narrow down knowledge by perps v's others univolved. Perhaps in this investigation, since they knew the cars were there, & that some POIs owned similar cars, it was kept secret... just in case. I imagine there's a lot we dont know

 

[Bohemian]

Wouldn't whoever took him still have to know it was risk free to do so? How did they know no one was home at the neighbours house?

In the last few pages of the last thread SA and I posted two links from a NSWPOL profiler, Sandra Yule and a criminal psychiatrist, Dr Michael Diamond. Both said that the perpetrator would have taken incredible risk. I take that to mean that maybe the impulse to take William would have overridden any real fear they had that neighbours would be at home if they didn’t see them. In other words, they would have taken their chances.

 

[iailwa]

I also gather by the time the FM called LE to the fact William was missing and they went out to the FGM's home to investigate, the vehicles were no longer there?

She didn't tell the investigators about the cars until she had arrived back from the airport... sometime late on the 12th, that's when she remembered - ASAIR - IMOO