Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[SouthAussie]

If William Spedding was to win this case of defamation against his character with the reference to the van implying “Peddo” what would be the outcome I wonder if he ends up of being convicted of just that ?

Sorry to be at bit clearer- if someone is awarded compensation for an aleegation deemed untrue at the time but is then found guilty of said allegation. Hope that makes sense .

I have sometimes wondered if the media could convince a judge to delay any further defamation proceedings until after the inquest into William's disappearance. That is, if the defamation is about the Peddo thing ... and charges are laid by the police after the inquest. Surely that would go in the media's favour.

If it is about something non-factual (I think we saw an article at one point that called him a convicted pedo, along with Jones) that may be a different scenario - if he has never been convicted of child sex offences in the past.

 

[Thebottomline]

I have sometimes wondered if the media could convince a judge to delay any further defamation proceedings until after the inquest into William's disappearance. That is, if the defamation is about the Peddo thing ... and charges are laid by the police after the inquest. Surely that would go in the media's favour.

If it is about something non-factual (I think we saw an article at one point that called him a convicted pedo, along with Jones) that may be a different scenario - if he has never been convicted of child sex offences in the past.

Yes there was the article that called him the convicted paedophile and I guess he has the right to fight that as at the time I believe he wasn’t . I wonder what that status is now though as officially there has been no word of the first trial only speculation. Prehaps we will never know .
I wonder too about them being able to delay until after inquest but how do you put a time on that, realistically it could be many years. Tricky situation. I wish I had studied law !

Sorry to edit again but I noticed your underlined “convicted”
I’m a bit old school as in no smoke without fire. I think he got lucky . iMOO

 

[georgy girl]

If William Spedding was to win this case of defamation against his character with the reference to the van implying “Peddo” what would be the outcome I wonder if he ends up of being convicted of just that ?

Sorry to be at bit clearer- if someone is awarded compensation for an aleegation deemed untrue at the time but is then found guilty of said allegation. Hope that makes sense .

I had wondered that myself TBL. I would think though, that proceedings would be judged by/on evidence at the time the defamation occured only. Legally, any possible forthcoming guilty verdicts would not change that result IMO. Maybe it should though.

 

[Thebottomline]

I had wondered that myself TBL. I would think though, that proceedings would be judged by/on evidence at the time the defamation occured only. Legally, any possible forthcoming guilty verdicts would not change that result IMO. Maybe it should though.

Thankyou, my thought s were the same .

 

[Karinna]

Yes there was the article that called him the convicted paedophile and I guess he has the right to fight that as at the time I believe he wasn’t . I wonder what that status is now though as officially there has been no word of the first trial only speculation. Prehaps we will never know .
I wonder too about them being able to delay until after inquest but how do you put a time on that, realistically it could be many years. Tricky situation. I wish I had studied law !

Sorry to edit again but I noticed your underlined “convicted”
I’m a bit old school as in no smoke without fire. I think he got lucky . iMOO

BBM, & JMO, but if BS had of been found guilty in the first Trial of the charges he was accused of and arrested for at the time, he would of been due for sentencing, if he was in fact found guilty. I don't think he would of walked away a free man, and would of been back in prison.
And also considering the VIC. charges were dismissed, i think maybe because the prosecution thought that it would not have much chance of conviction either.
It could of been for another reason that case was dismissed, but can't think of why they would do that otherwise? Maybe unavailable witnesses etc.?

 

[Thebottomline]

BBM, & JMO, but if BS had of been found guilty in the first Trial of the charges he was accused of and arrested for at the time, he would of been due for sentencing, if he was in fact found guilty. I don't think he would of walked away a free man, and would of been back in prison.
And also considering the VIC. charges were dismissed, i think maybe because the prosecution thought that it would not have much chance of conviction either.
It could of been for another reason that case was dismissed, but can't think of why they would do that otherwise? Maybe unavailable witnesses etc.?

 

[Thebottomline]

BBM, & JMO, but if BS had of been found guilty in the first Trial of the charges he was accused of and arrested for at the time, he would of been due for sentencing, if he was in fact found guilty. I don't think he would of walked away a free man, and would of been back in prison.
And also considering the VIC. charges were dismissed, i think maybe because the prosecution thought that it would not have much chance of conviction either.
It could of been for another reason that case was dismissed, but can't think of why they would do that otherwise? Maybe unavailable witnesses etc.?

 

[Thebottomline]

BBM, & JMO, but if BS had of been found guilty in the first Trial of the charges he was accused of and arrested for at the time, he would of been due for sentencing, if he was in fact found guilty. I don't think he would of walked away a free man, and would of been back in prison.
And also considering the VIC. charges were dismissed, i think maybe because the prosecution thought that it would not have much chance of conviction either.
It could of been for another reason that case was dismissed, but can't think of why they would do that otherwise? Maybe unavailable witnesses etc.?

As all went so silent in the media on him, who knows. He could possibly be incarcerated. I doubt it but could be possible .

 

[Thebottomline]

Sorry about the repeat posts, don’t know how I managed to muck that up.

 

[purpleandgreen]

To William and your families. I apologise that your thread has degenerated to references to women’s gossip magazines and an actress.

 

[frogwell]

To William and your families. I apologise that your thread has degenerated to references to women’s gossip magazines and an actress.

To my mind , the comments are entirely relevant. A POI in WT's case is pursuing defamation in courts for apparently some of the reporting on himself. The examples others have offered are our only precedent to refer to on how these matters might be dealt with, e.g. How long the matter might take, How much might be awarded, What the costs and risks of taking this type of action might be. IMO
It would be helpful if posters added to their comments, MOO, IMO or whatever their equivelent is, so that, we understand that the comment being made is an opinion and not a damning statement. IMO

 

[Thebottomline]

Yes sorry I was on a bit of a posting frenzy last night . Apologies for all the posts, mine were all meant to relate to BS and his case. I hope they didn’t come across in any other way. My posts of course are all my own opinion .

 

[iailwa]

To William and your families. I apologise that your thread has degenerated to references to women’s gossip magazines and an actress.

Come on. The thread was talking about defamation wrt media, of which this case (Rebel Wilson's) specifically relates. I could go on about other instances where things may not relate - such as clairvoyants, Yowies, parallel universes... etc that have been mentioned, which are far more degenerate IMO

 

[purpleandgreen]

Come on. The thread was talking about defamation wrt media, of which this case (Rebel Wilson's) specifically relates. I could go on about other instances where things may not relate - such as clairvoyants, Yowies, parallel universes... etc that have been mentioned, which are far more degenerate IMO

BBM. Well of course you could, but that's all against TOS.

There are really no parallels between BS and Rebel Wilson. Good diversion though. IMO JMO MOO

 

[iailwa]

BBM. Well of course you could, but that's all against TOS.

There are really no parallels between BS and Rebel Wilson. Good diversion though. IMO JMO MOO

There are indeed parallels - both suing media for defamation. Not even my opinion, just fact, actually...

 

[purpleandgreen]

There are indeed parallels - both suing media for defamation. Not even my opinion, just fact, actually...

Ok. You win. When people start talking about William and things relevant to him and not some actress on the other side of the world, this thread will get back on track. IMO JMO MOO



Edited to add, there's also a big difference between flippant (mis)reporting in women's gossip magazines and reputable MSM newpapers by reputable journalists. IMO JMO MOO

 

[iailwa]

Ok. You win. When people start talking about William and things relevant to him and not some actress on the other side of the world, this thread will get back on track. IMO JMO MOO



Edited to add, there's also a big difference between flippant (mis)reporting in women's gossip magazines and reputable MSM newpapers by reputable journalists. IMO JMO MOO

she's an Australian actress, and this played out in an Australian court against Australian media

 

[Thebottomline]

Anyway moving on, let’s hope the cog wheels are ticking over and in 12 or so more days we hear some encouraging news about where Williams investigation is currently at.

 

[purpleandgreen]

she's an Australian actress, and this played out in an Australian court against Australian media

Bit different between getting movies roles & lying about your past and sexually molesting children. I won't be drawn any further into this farce. IMO . JMO MOO

Over and out.



Where are you William? That's our focus here. Well, that's my focus, anyway.

 

[iailwa]

Here you go @purpleandgreen - something directly related to William, which has been discussed but not much IMO.

In the recent search it was reported that the person (seen, or known to be down at Batar Rd, doing something) is a 'high risk person of interest'

quote "It is understood to relate to a high-risk person of interest living nearby"

Living nearby? This makes me wonder about BS, TJ, PB & DN. AFAIK, none of them live nearby? MOO. Of course i don't know where they live.

who's this 5th person? I guess we won't know unless an arrest is made, or an inquest is held.

'High-risk' person of interest leads to change in search for William Tyrrell