Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[JLZ]

I think it could well be that 'mother of the 3 children' but how did she know that BS had been to that particular address?

I thought that the statement in question related to the child sex charges and I don't see why it wouldn't have been one of the child victims who gave the statement. This was well after Spedding was widely known as a POI in the case and the grandchildren had already been removed. (And as I recall the three grandchildren had two mothers between them.)

 

[sleepinoz]

I thought that the statement in question related to the child sex charges and I don't see why it wouldn't have been one of the child victims who gave the statement. This was well after Spedding was widely known as a POI in the case and the grandchildren had already been removed. (And as I recall the three grandchildren had two mothers between them.)

I think the OP (papertrail) was talking about BS being dobbed into FACS. I could be confused

Female relative mmmm. My money is mother of the 3 children the Speddings had under kinship care. She has made media statements saying she called FACS about Spedding cant recall is she had called police too. She is the woman with walls covered in pics literally.

Does anyone know if her surname begins with B?

There is a media article in jan 2015 at the time of police raid on Spedding properties that discussed this. From memory the gist was FACS and police had launched investigation of Spedding not realizing their investigations were about to collide. Each one had no idea of the parallel investigation.

Its all too perfect imo.

 

[JLZ]

I think the OP (papertrail) was talking about BS being dobbed into FACS. I could be confused

PT quoted FG who quoted and linked an article about the child sex charges. It wasn't entirely clear in the article whether the statement made by the female relative related to the child sex charges but that's how I took it.

 

[Goosewhisperer]

I think it could well be that 'mother of the 3 children' but how did she know that BS had been to that particular address?

The mother who wants her child back said she was informed by FACs in December it was investigating Mr Spedding but would not tell her why.

The same month Port Macquarie detectives tried to contact her, she said, adding that she was horrified when she saw news reports of police searching the Speddings’ home.

“I saw Bill Spedding on TV and I rang FACs,” the mother said.

 

[sleepinoz]

The mother who wants her child back said she was informed by FACs in December it was investigating Mr Spedding but would not tell her why.

The same month Port Macquarie detectives tried to contact her, she said, adding that she was horrified when she saw news reports of police searching the Speddings’ home.

“I saw Bill Spedding on TV and I rang FACs,” the mother said.

Can you post the link please

 

[SouthAussie]

There are definitely a few members of Spedding’s ‘family’ who may not be so crazy about him.

- The historical child sex charge victim(s).
- The victims’ mother.
- The mothers of the step-grandchildren – one of who went to the Ombudsman about him living with the 3 children, when FACS had known about the 1987 child sex allegations for at least the prior 2½ years, and had the info in their files since 1987.
- The grandfather of the step-grandson(s).


The boys’ mother said yesterday she raised the allegations surrounding the alleged 1987 abuse involving Mr Spedding during a meeting with state authorities roughly 2½ years ago.

She recently complained to the NSW Ombudsman, asking for an investigation into how her children came to be living with Mr Spedding.

The boys’ grandfather said he did not know what would now happen to the children, and had been told only that the authorities were “looking into it”.
“I am very concerned about what may have happened to my grandchildren,” he said.

Court documents show case notes held by the NSW Department of Family and Community Services since 1987 detail reports that Mr Spedding allegedly assaulted the two girls, then aged three and six.

A spokesman for the NSW Ombudsman said: “I can confirm the mother has made contact with our office. Our office had already started to make inquiries regarding the matter prior to this contact.”

Nocookies
The Australian - April 27, 2015
Bill Spedding was living with three children

 

[sleepinoz]

My guess something to do with pb and tj , imo.

Hi Whangarei, can you give us your reasons for thinking that it was PB and TJ? I would be interested in why you think this.

How you think they did this, why and what they did.

TIA

 

[sosocurious]

The mother who wants her child back said she was informed by FACs in December it was investigating Mr Spedding but would not tell her why.

The same month Port Macquarie detectives tried to contact her, she said, adding that she was horrified when she saw news reports of police searching the Speddings’ home.

“I saw Bill Spedding on TV and I rang FACs,” the mother said.

They would not tell her why they were investigating BS.
Seems it may not have been her that called crimestoppers if she was surprised.

The child’s room is untouched and she has not taken the Christmas tree down since the child was removed early in 2011.
She and her new partner were surprised to learn Mr Spedding was a person of interest in the investigation into the missing toddler.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph
Family Services quizzed ‘person of interest’: Children were removed from tradesman Bill Spedding’s care

 

[Karinna]

They would not tell her why they were investigating BS.
Seems it may not have been her that called crimestoppers if she was surprised.

The child’s room is untouched and she has not taken the Christmas tree down since the child was removed early in 2011.
She and her new partner were surprised to learn Mr Spedding was a person of interest in the investigation into the missing toddler.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph
Family Services quizzed ‘person of interest’: Children were removed from tradesman Bill Spedding’s care

BBM, How would she know that the Spedding's had her child in their care? After she seen about BS on T.V.
Didn't think FACS gave that information to bio's as to where their children are and with whom?

 

[SouthAussie]

They would not tell her why they were investigating BS.
Seems it may not have been her that called crimestoppers if she was surprised.

The child’s room is untouched and she has not taken the Christmas tree down since the child was removed early in 2011.
She and her new partner were surprised to learn Mr Spedding was a person of interest in the investigation into the missing toddler.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph
Family Services quizzed ‘person of interest’: Children were removed from tradesman Bill Spedding’s care

I think it is probable that two mothers of the 3 step-grandchildren have spoken with the media.

One that was suprised that they were investigating Spedding, and then rang FACS.

And one who had reported Spedding to FACS 2½ years prior, and reported FACS to the Ombudsman as well. Only because I cannot see her saying that she was surprised.

 

[JLZ]

They would not tell her why they were investigating BS.
Seems it may not have been her that called crimestoppers if she was surprised.

The child’s room is untouched and she has not taken the Christmas tree down since the child was removed early in 2011.
She and her new partner were surprised to learn Mr Spedding was a person of interest in the investigation into the missing toddler.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph
Family Services quizzed ‘person of interest’: Children were removed from tradesman Bill Spedding’s care

This would be the other mother would it not, not the one PT had in mind when he asked if her surname began with a B.

 

[sleepinoz]

BBM, How would she know that the Spedding's had her child in their care? After she seen about BS on T.V.
Didn't think FACS gave that information to bio's as to where their children are and with whom?

Probably kinship care, because they were rello's of the partner. I think, but not sure, that if that happens all parties are advised.

 

[JLZ]

BBM, How would she know that the Spedding's had her child in their care? After she seen about BS on T.V.
Didn't think FACS gave that information to bio's as to where their children are and with whom?

I think the kinship care rules are different.

 

[Karinna]

I think the kinship care rules are different.

Thanks for clarifying. Didn't realise it was kinship care. I'm a bit confused about all the children the Spedding's had in their care lol.

 

[JLZ]

There are definitely a few members of Spedding’s ‘family’ who may not be so crazy about him.

- The historical child sex charge victim(s).
- The victims’ mother.
- The mothers of the step-grandchildren – one of who went to the Ombudsman about him living with the 3 children, when FACS had known about the 1987 child sex allegations for at least the prior 2½ years, and had the info in their files since 1987.
- The grandfather of the step-grandson(s).

(snipped)

And isn't there another relative, an artist, CS? Where does that person fit?

 

[SouthAussie]

(snipped)

And isn't there another relative, an artist, CS? Where does that person fit?

I think that could be the victims' mother? I could be wrong.

I have a tough time keeping up with all the initials. Need to make myself a reference table, or a 'family tree'.

 

[JLZ]

I think that could be the victims' mother? I could be wrong.

I have a tough time keeping up with all the initials. Need to make myself a reference table, or a 'family tree'.

No, I think that's a different CS. This one's younger, possibly trans. Am I imagining things? There was such a person but you've got me wondering now whether a relationship with our Speddings was ever confirmed.

 

[SouthAussie]

No, I think that's a different CS. This one's younger, possibly trans. Am I imagining things? There was such a person but you've got me wondering now whether a relationship with our Speddings was ever confirmed.

Now that you mention it, I do have a vague recollection of her. More of a picture of her in MSM doing some artwork in front of an easel.

 

[Blues Clues]

BBM
And how did they know he had been to the house? It implies someone close that knew he went to the house where William disappeared from and then tipped off LE and MSM about his history. There are obviously a couple of people who have a gripe with him and/or MS but I am not sure how those people joined the dots.

Two possible scenarios imo

One of the victims was still in contact with BS after William's disappearance. It could have been mentioned to her BS thought he had been at that house, and she may have innocently passed that info on in the first few days after 12th Sept.

The court heard that Mr Spedding spent the night at the home of one of the complainants about six months ago and played with her young daughter.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

Part of the police case against Spedding is a series of formal statements made by adults who know him.

The Daily Telegraph revealed yesterday one of the people made the original call to Crime Stoppers about Spedding days after William Tyrrell was snatched.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

A photo of BS's work van parked in Benaroon Dr when he returned to complete repairs was in MSM, but was removed shortly afterwards.
Was that photo seen by an "adult who knew him", a call made to CS and then the photo pulled from MSM perhaps.

His whitegoods repair van was seen parked in the quiet Kendall street alongside those belonging to police and emergency workers involved in the investigation in the days after William vanished.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

 

[Blues Clues]

They would not tell her why they were investigating BS.
Seems it may not have been her that called crimestoppers if she was surprised.

The child’s room is untouched and she has not taken the Christmas tree down since the child was removed early in 2011.
She and her new partner were surprised to learn Mr Spedding was a person of interest in the investigation into the missing toddler.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph
Family Services quizzed ‘person of interest’: Children were removed from tradesman Bill Spedding’s care

It was more likely an adult who has a connection to the victims of the historical charges. Imo.

Spedding is alleged to have inflicted the abuse in April and May, 1987. Part of the police case against Spedding is a series of formal statements made by adults who know him.

The Daily Telegraph revealed yesterday one of the people made the original call to Crime Stoppers about Spedding days after William Tyrrell was snatched.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph