Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[Karinna]

One vehicle is a green or grey sedan that drove past the Benaroon Drive house about 9am while William and his sister were riding bikes in the driveway.

Det Insp Jubelin said the car drove into the quiet cul-de-sac, did a u-turn in the neighbour's driveway and drove out of the street.

The second sighting was of a four-wheel-drive driving out of Benaroon Drive about 10.30am - when William vanished - and was later seen speeding down another Kendall street.
William Tyrrell detectives hunt for drivers 12 months after disappearance

Thanks for posting up the info, GW.
I gather the first vehicle didn't stop and abduct him because that was when both kids were riding bikes?
The second vehicle have no idea?

 

[Karinna]

This car gets very little attention, given the timing, hasn't been mentioned as being ruled out that I know of.

Agree. Then there were the two vehicles parked on the street noticed by FM that she recalled that night.

 

[SouthAussie]

This car gets very little attention, given the timing, hasn't been mentioned as being ruled out that I know of.

No, you're right. I haven't seen it ruled in, or ruled out. Not that I have seen anything ruled out, other than a few hundred POIs and any pedo ring.

 

[SouthAussie]

As i said it depends what MSM article you want to believe?
(quote)
Sniffer dogs and cadaver dogs found no scent in the yard, fuelling fears he may have been abducted.
Fears grow missing boy William Tyrell may have been abducted from Kendall
Odd in that article the dogs found No scent of WT in the yard if he had been playing there that morning?

However, on balance and if a person thinks about it, the article you linked goes on to say .... "fuelling fears that William may have been abducted".

So, if his scent was nowhere in the yard, where was he abducted from? The back porch?

I think it may be logical to go with the several articles that mention the scent having extended to the boundaries, and not to have crossed the road toward the forest. That makes far more sense to me.

No mention of scent to the driveway in any of the articles, so I think we can nix that one.

 

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[iailwa]

This car gets very little attention, given the timing, hasn't been mentioned as being ruled out that I know of.

So true. It's seems strange they don't want to reveal the location of where it was seen, except to say 'in the vicinity of Benaroon Drv'. This could be the forest road that leaves the end of Benaroon, not far from William's FGMs house. It's definitely the fastest route outta there.

 

[iailwa]

Far too perfect for that scenario.

Sorry been away - but what is too perfect? An opportunistic abduction? IDK, I think someone would have squealed, as mentioned, if it was a group effort. Someone is bound to say something. But a lone abductor? He/she may be inclined to be more quiet

 

[purpleandgreen]

However, on balance and if a person thinks about it, the article you linked goes on to say .... "fuelling fears that William may have been abducted".

So, if his scent was nowhere in the yard, where was he abducted from? The back porch?

I think it may be logical to go with the several articles that mention the scent having extended to the boundaries, and not to have crossed the road toward the forest. That makes far more sense to me.

No mention of scent to the driveway in any of the articles, so I think we can nix that one.

Have spent a while trying to find the ACA feature where Jubelin walks down through the trees to the boundary of FG's house, but am not having any success. Is anyone able to help? I think there was some discussion back then that he could've been walking the path of the abduction, which would back up you deductions, SA.

I've tried both google and WS search but mustn't be using enough key search words, or else doing something else wrong.

 

[Bohemian]

Have spent a while trying to find the ACA feature where Jubelin walks down through the trees to the boundary of FG's house, but am not having any success. Is anyone able to help? I think there was some discussion back then that he could've been walking the path of the abduction, which would back up you deductions, SA.

I've tried both google and WS search but mustn't be using enough key search words, or else doing something else wrong.

Have a look on @richieswan’s YouTube channel:

Richie Swan

 

[SouthAussie]

Have spent a while trying to find the ACA feature where Jubelin walks down through the trees to the boundary of FG's house, but am not having any success. Is anyone able to help? I think there was some discussion back then that he could've been walking the path of the abduction, which would back up you deductions, SA.

I've tried both google and WS search but mustn't be using enough key search words, or else doing something else wrong.

It is also spoken of here in the Australian Crime News FB page, an article by The Australian. Best article I have read. Here is a small excerpt from the very long article .......

"We drive with Jubelin to the scene of the abduction — it is his seventh or eighth trip there. Each time he stays for an hour or so, usually alone, wandering up and down the street, trying to think like a paedophile, trying to get into the perpetrator’s mind. “You have to put yourself in that dark, murky world,” he says. “You have to swim in the swamp.”
We stop the car down the street a bit from William’s grandmother’s house. “You are here,” he says as we look up through trees to the house, “and you see a three-year-old kid in a Spider-Man suit on the road and there’s no one else around. What do you do?” It’s pretty easy to establish a rapport with a little boy. G’day Spider-Man. How are you going? Where’s your mum?

The way Jubelin sees it, you open the door and you put him in the car. Perhaps your first thought is to return him to his parents. Certainly, if anyone saw you now, you could say you were driving him to the police station in Laurieton, 15 minutes away. Instead of knocking on doors, you head back out past the showground. No one follows you. You cross the Camden Haven River and nobody notices young William with the seatbelt over him. You bypass the police station in Laurieton and you just keep driving. By the time William’s mother calls 000 you are 30km away. There are tens of thousands of hectares of dense bushland between you and Kendall. William is strapped in beside you, dressed in his Spider-Man suit."

Australian Crime News

 

[iailwa]

Have spent a while trying to find the ACA feature where Jubelin walks down through the trees to the boundary of FG's house, but am not having any success. Is anyone able to help? I think there was some discussion back then that he could've been walking the path of the abduction, which would back up you deductions, SA.

I've tried both google and WS search but mustn't be using enough key search words, or else doing something else wrong.

From memory I think that was after he'd been on the case about a year - so perhaps 2016?

 

[SouthAussie]

Have a look on @richieswan’s YouTube channel:

Richie Swan

Thanks for that link, Bo. What a great collection Richie has put together there!

 

[sosocurious]

Have a look on @richieswan’s YouTube channel:

Richie Swan

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about 8:47 of the video

 

[sosocurious]

Thanks for that link, Bo. What a great collection Richie has put together there!

It is great isn't it? Thanks Richie.

 

[purpleandgreen]

Thanks for that link, Bo. What a great collection Richie has put together there!

Ditto. And thank you too, Richie.

 

[purpleandgreen]

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Yes I think that could be it, soso. Thank you all so much. Great group effort.

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at about 6.02 in. The same part of the yard . The same spot seems to feature in both. IMO

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At about 18 secs in.

 

[iailwa]

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Gosh that's so harrowing to see WT's foster parents speak again. I find it very interesting they completely ignore the other exit, which is clever - it's almost as if they are trying to tell the perp - "you are too clever for us & we have never even considered it", although that's where their focus is. They don't even stand up near the driveway of the house - i.e. they make him/her feel complacent... JMO. Some of you would not agree (edited for clarification)

 

[sosocurious]

Gosh that's so harrowing to see WT's foster parents speak again. I find it very interesting they completely ignore the other exit, which is clever - it's almost as if they are trying to tell the perp - "you are too clever for us & we have never even considered it", they don't even stand up near the driveway of the house - i.e. they make him/her feel complacent... JMO. Many of you would not agree

I am open to either, or...
Jubes had a theory. I guess it is up to he and his team to prove or disprove it.

I wish we knew how the alibi's of the named poi's checked out.

 

[iailwa]

I am open to either or...
Jubes had a theory. I guess it is up to he and his team to prove or disprove it.

I wish we knew how the alibi's of the named poi's checked out.

don't we all! thanks for the post Soso, great rehash so you think BS did it?