Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #38

[sleepinoz]

How do we know the Spedding grandkids went to Laurieton Public and not St Josephs Primary also in Laurieton?

Because MSM told us so.

Mr Spedding has told police he then walked with his wife across the road to Laurieton Public School to attend a school assembly in which one of his grandchildren got an award.

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

Not trying to be snarky, but many of the questions you ask are readily available in MSM - might I suggest you google.

 

[papertrail]

Ok I found an article

Spedding denies toddler involvement

And even the Buzz Cafe worker is stated ss saying they couldn't remember seeing the Speddings on the day due to the 4 months gap between disappearance and police questioning. So we now have a FACT.

My mind keeps casting back to these historic charges and the possibility the accuser had made contact with police involved in William's case hence their focus on Spedding and to me this scenario raises the possibility of her involvement. Could she have been watching Spedding's every step and took a 'perfect' opportunity?

 

[bearbear]

<modsnip: rude> It is interesting to me that if it is indeed BS that is being referred to and his name is suppressed but the description of him completely identifies him as a suspect in this case and no one else comes to mind, that this reporting is completely in contempt of the coronial court inquest? How desparate is this police force to put him front and centre still after 3 years, but they have not charged him. Don't care how trusting or justified anyone thinks this action is, it is unlawful and morally wrong. IMO HAPPY NEW YEAR <modsnip>

happy new year frogwell and to everyone here, i hope the year ahead is filled with love, peace, joy, and happiness

 

[purpleandgreen]

Ok I found an article

Spedding denies toddler involvement

And even the Buzz Cafe worker is stated ss saying they couldn't remember seeing the Speddings on the day due to the 4 months gap between disappearance and police questioning. So we now have a FACT.

My mind keeps casting back to these historic charges and the possibility the accuser had made contact with police involved in William's case hence their focus on Spedding and to me this scenario raises the possibility of her involvement. Could she have been watching Spedding's every step and took a 'perfect' opportunity?

Sure do, a fact the she didn’t remember seeing him on the day.

 

[purpleandgreen]

happy new year frogwell and to everyone here, i hope the year ahead is filled with love, peace, joy, and happiness

Thank you, bear, and to you and everyone else too. And to William’s families.

 

[papertrail]

William Spedding says he had nothing to do with disappearance of toddler William Tyrell

The receipt transaction was for 10am at Buzz Cafe. Therefore there IS a supporting alibi. BTW it is up to police to find and prove their supporting evidence for a prosecution. That is why everyone under questioning by police has a right to remain silent.

 

[papertrail]

Sure do, a fact the she didn’t remember seeing him on the day.

Because of the 4 month delay and the article states that fact. <Admin Note: removed caps; seems your caps lock was on>

 

[papertrail]

The Trouble with Eyewitness Identification Testimony in Criminal Cases

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1468-5884.1996.tb00004.x

 

[papertrail]

Memory in the Real World: How Reliable is Eyewitness Testimony? | Psychreg

 

[papertrail]

New research reveals how little we can trust eyewitnesses

 

[papertrail]

Guidelines on memory and the law

 

[sleepinoz]

William Spedding says he had nothing to do with disappearance of toddler William Tyrell

The receipt transaction was for 10am at Buzz Cafe. Therefore there IS a supporting alibi. BTW it is up to police to find and prove their supporting evidence for a prosecution. That is why everyone under questioning by police has a right to remain silent.

IMO that doesn't support his alibi because there is no proof that it was him that used the card, anyone on a joint account could have used the card.

Also it was a bank card statement not an actual receipt, times on statements aren't always true to time used.

 

[purpleandgreen]

Because of the 4 month delay and the article STATES THAT FACT.

With all due respect though, she can’t stand up in a court , or inquest for that matter, and swear or validate that she saw him that day, no matter what the reason. IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

IMO that doesn't support his alibi because there is no proof that it was him that used the card, anyone on a joint account could have used the card.

Also it was a bank card statement not an actual receipt, times on statements aren't always true to time used.

The other thing to consider here, is that Spedding's spokesperson said that Spedding also attended the assembly with a friend, as well as Margaret.
So, if that statement transaction only covers two coffees, it could easily be coffee served to Margaret and the friend.

He told Daily Mail Australia Mr Spedding said he had also attended the presentation with a family friend who was taking photos.
William Spedding claims he had nothing to do with William Tyrell disappearance | Daily Mail Online

 

[JLZ]

There are a few things that defence counsel sometimes do that make me think they think their case is desperate. One is becoming eloquent about reasonable doubt instead of making points about the actual evidence. Another is putting their client on the stand.

Arguing that eyewitness evidence is in principle unreliable would have to be up there.

 

[frogwell]

There are a few things that defence counsel sometimes do that make me think they think their case is desperate. One is becoming eloquent about reasonable doubt instead of making points about the actual evidence. Another is putting their client on the stand.

Arguing that eyewitness evidence is in principle unreliable would have to be up there.

Agree, but how about the other side producing any evidence at all instead of inference and innuendo, to make it look like the picture they want to make it.

 

[purpleandgreen]

Agree, but how about the other side producing any evidence at all instead of inference and innuendo, to make it look like the picture they want to make it.

I’m sure we’ll find out in due course what they have. None of us should speculate prematurely. But we do know that Spedding will be there, as he’s been subpoenaed, as we know. IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

I’m sure we’ll find out in due course what they have. None of us should speculate prematurely. But we do know that Spedding will be there, as he’s been subpoenaed, as we know. IMO

The police are not going to show their evidence until they need to. But they evidently had enough cause to get warrants to search Spedding's properties. And, as you say, there is sufficient reason for the Coroner to subpeona Spedding to the inquest in its first sitting.

It will be interesting to see the witness list next month, if it can be revealed to the public.

 

[Bohemian]

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It will be interesting to see the witness list next month, if it can be revealed to the public.

From memory, the witness list is to be finalised by 1 Feb and will be available to counsel on the 4th. I suppose we’ll have to wait until then to see if we receive a heads-up in MSM about witnesses’ identities. Regardless, I hope we’ll most certainly have an idea by the first tranche of William’s inquest.

I wonder if some parts of William’s inquest will be heard in camera or will simply be the subject of non-publication orders, as mooted at the Directions Hearing.

 

[Violet77]

Happy new year William, I hope 2019 brings you home to your loved ones no matter where you are & brings those responsible to justice.

Happy New Years to everyone still here for William, let’s hope that this year brings us the answers we all desperately want!