Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #38

[Bohemian]

I think any unknown person may become known throughout the first sitting of the inquest?
Seems they are concentrating on the main POI(s?)/high risk person(s?) first.

A spokesperson from NSW Police said a ‘small pool of high risk persons of interest are actively being investigated’.

“We strongly believe there are people out there who have information on this and I make a point to those people – if you do have information concerning what happened to William you are at risk of committing a criminal offence by concealing an offence if you do not come forward,” Det Insp Jubelin said at the search site in Kendall earlier this year.

“I suggest you come to us before we come to you.”
Coronial inquest to shine spotlight on Tyrrell persons of interest

Yes, I think there might be more surprises in store at William’s inquest, if the Directions Hearing was anything to go by:

‘Paul Savage, who lived across the road from the Benaroon Drive property from which William went missing, attended the court via conference call and told Deputy State Coroner Grahame that he was "still sorting out" his legal representation.’ Police pursue 'active leads' into William Tyrrell's disappearance

 

[SouthAussie]

Question out of ignorance - will those sorts of things be asked / addressed at the inquest if it's deemed relevant?

It would have to be relevant, for sure. Perhaps if there was something that was deemed as tendency evidence, maybe from the FACS investigation into Spedding's "treatment of children".

From what I have read so far, FACS have been asked to provide a statement purely about William. But a FACS lawyer will apparently be at the inquest, so other questions may come up, if deemed relevant.

Of course, there is always the threat/warning that Spedding's lawyer gave to the media following the Directions Hearing ... that may inhibit the media from stating anything further about this element, for the time being.

Could be something asked of Margaret though, once they have her on the stand .... if they want to show the lengths she may go to 'for her man'. imo

 

[purpleandgreen]

It would have to be relevant, for sure. Perhaps if there was something that was deemed as tendency evidence, maybe from the FACS investigation into Spedding's "treatment of children".

From what I have read so far, FACS have been asked to provide a statement purely about William. But a FACS lawyer will apparently be at the inquest, so other questions may come up, if deemed relevant.

Of course, there is always the threat/warning that Spedding's lawyer gave to the media following the Directions Hearing ... that may inhibit the media from stating anything further about this element, for the time being.

Well he (or anyone else for that matter) can stop the media, at least for the time being, but he can't stop the law. IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

Well he (or anyone else for that matter) can stop the media, at least for the time being, but he can't stop the law. IMO

I don't think he will stop the media for very long. The media seem relentless when a person takes them to court instead of giving them the opportunity for a retraction, especially if they do not settle the matter during mediation.

When I think of the people who have sued the media, it has never stopped the media reporting on them. The media are just a little more careful that there are no slipups with their facts in the future. imo

 

[Bohemian]

Well he (or anyone else for that matter) can stop the media, at least for the time being, but he can't stop the law. IMO

Wouldn’t it be ironic if BS’ pursuit of MSM results in their inability to name another high profile POI, who could let BS off the hook wrt William’s disappearance. That thought to me is delicious.

 

[purpleandgreen]

I don't think he will stop the media for very long. The media seem relentless when a person takes them to court instead of giving them the opportunity for a retraction, especially if they do not settle the matter during mediation.

When I think of the people who have sued the media, it has never stopped the media reporting on them. The media are just a little more careful that there are no slipups with their facts in the future. imo

Excellent!

 

[purpleandgreen]

I wonder if it’s a ‘no win, no pay’ lawyer. Can’t see BS being able to afford one under his own steam. They’re way to expensive for us ordinary folk, IMO. Not that it matters one way or another. Unless it’s legal aid and us mug taxpayers are paying for it. To which I object. The poor old working class can’t afford to engage a lawyer but don’t qualify for legal aid, yet they pay for all and sundry on social security to access assistance.

 

[drsleuth]

I wonder if it’s a ‘no win, no pay’ lawyer. Can’t see BS being able to afford one under his own steam. They’re way to expensive for us ordinary folk, IMO. Not that it matters one way or another. Unless it’s legal aid and us mug taxpayers are paying for it. To which I object. The poor old working class can’t afford to engage a lawyer but don’t qualify for legal aid, yet they pay for all and sundry on social security to access assistance.

I'd be very surprised if he got legal aid

Coronial Inquest Unit - Legal Aid NSW

Who we help
Usually, legal aid is provided to a family member or next of kin to the deceased person. In exceptional circumstances, aid might be granted to someone other than a family member.

 

[papertrail]

Link please? TIA.

So sorry, but I don't quite understand. Is that the opposing view to that of the police? You think the police don't think he's still alive? Have I read it correctly? Apologies if not. Just that sometimes one sentence replies can be confusing, to me anyway! IMO

The police have never stated that William is deceased.

 

[papertrail]

Yes in as much as the media stating WT could still be alive.

Exactly.

 

[papertrail]

I'm sorry, without a link to explain what you mean, I am unable to determine exactly which part of my post you think the police appear to have an opposing view.

Police have stated that there will likely be an open finding?
Police have stated that they dispute Justice Brereton's conclusion, and there is no tragic probability that William is deceased?
Police have stated that this first sitting of the inquest is not to assist police investigations?
.. or perhaps you mean that police appear to have stated an opposing view to everything contained in my post?

An opposjng view to Brereton's view.

 

[purpleandgreen]

The police have never stated that William is deceased.

Still waiting on your link please.

 

[Karinna]

I wonder if it’s a ‘no win, no pay’ lawyer. Can’t see BS being able to afford one under his own steam. They’re way to expensive for us ordinary folk, IMO. Not that it matters one way or another. Unless it’s legal aid and us mug taxpayers are paying for it. To which I object. The poor old working class can’t afford to engage a lawyer but don’t qualify for legal aid, yet they pay for all and sundry on social security to access assistance.

There are laws for poorer members of society if they require an attorney in any legal matter obviously, that's why there are public defenders. Why would you object to that?

 

[Karinna]

(quote)
William Tyrrell inquest looks likely as deputy coroner visits search site for missing boy
Inspector Jubelin said investigators gained new information from the search, but failed to reach the breakthrough they had been hoping for.

Police looked at almost 700 persons of interest, conducted hundreds of interviews and gathered more than 4,000 pieces of evidence, but Williams' disappearance remains a mystery.
William Tyrrell inquest looks likely as deputy coroner visits search site for missing boy

 

[sosocurious]

Jubes said “As I’ve said to the family, and I can’t be any more honest than what I say to the family ... until we know conclusively that William is not alive we’ll treat it with the possibility that he still is alive. But obviously we have grave concerns.”
William Tyrrell: search to focus on evidence of 'human intervention'

Justice Brereton also raised "the tragic probability that (William) is no longer alive".

William Tyrrell: search to focus on evidence of 'human intervention'

Just words. But could it be considered.
Possiblity - less likely. Probablity - more likely.

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder if it’s a ‘no win, no pay’ lawyer. Can’t see BS being able to afford one under his own steam. They’re way to expensive for us ordinary folk, IMO. Not that it matters one way or another. Unless it’s legal aid and us mug taxpayers are paying for it. To which I object. The poor old working class can’t afford to engage a lawyer but don’t qualify for legal aid, yet they pay for all and sundry on social security to access assistance.

Yes, if it is the lawsuit you are speaking of, I believe the lawsuit lawyer would likely be a no win, no pay lawyer.
I think we looked at this before, and Legal Aid does not cover lawsuits.

If that is the case, Spedding and his lawyer will be pushing the media for money ... nothing less. imo

 

[SouthAussie]

Unless, of course, Spedding is paying lawyers with some of that $100,000 (was it?) that he was able to ante up for bail on the child sex charges.

 

[sosocurious]

Unless, of course, Spedding is paying lawyers with some of that $100,000 (was it?) that he was able to ante up for bail on the child sex charges.

Wasn't that his bro's life savings? With a bit of his own.

 

[SouthAussie]

Wasn't that his bro's life savings? With a bit of his own.

I don't know. Probably. I think Rodney said Spedding was struggling because his business had dried up .. or words to that effect.
Plus the removal of Margaret's grandchildren would have stopped any carers support payments from the govt.

 

[sosocurious]

I don't know. Probably. I think Rodney said Spedding was struggling because his business had dried up .. or words to that effect.
Plus the removal of Margaret's grandchildren would have stopped any carers support payments from the govt.

Tough!