Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #38

[papertrail]

You might want to check GE again - it's 45 mins or 59 mins depending which way you go.

GE must have calculated return trip when that was not a parameter I input.
I stand corrected thank you.

I still can't understand why someone would post this story here on William's discussion forum.

 

[Thebottomline]

GE must have calculated return trip when that was not a parameter I input.
I stand corrected thank you.

I still can't understand why someone would post this story here on William's discussion forum.

I think the poster posted it as many here would because it mentions William .

 

[suspicious]

That is the difficult issue. If you do see someone you know on occasions at a certain location but not everyday it is very difficult to recall weeks later a particular day and time you did see them.

maybe no one can recall seeing him correct. However highly unlikely. If he was seen he would no longer be a POI. I’m fairly sure the police know the answer to that.
My kids are in primary school and getting in after assembly starts is fine. But getting out without being seen would be almost impossible... 2-4 doors with 100 people trying to get out at once.
Plus my kids spend their whole time trying to find me and don’t stop until they see me or other family members.

Why do you keep arguing about this? The media get their info from the police... do you not want justice for William and his family?

 

[papertrail]

maybe no one can recall seeing him correct. However highly unlikely. If he was seen he would no longer be a POI. I’m fairly sure the police know the answer to that.
My kids are in primary school and getting in after assembly starts is fine. But getting out without being seen would be almost impossible... 2-4 doors with 100 people trying to get out at once.
Plus my kids spend their whole time trying to find me and don’t stop until they see me or other family members.

Why do you keep arguing about this? The media get their info from the police... do you not want justice for William and his family?

Stating my opinion or an opposing point of view is not arguing. Police have never stated anything that indicates Spedding does not have a verifiable alibi.

Please provide some statement that police have stated Spedding remains a POI and I dont mean a media article were the press say so.

What is out put by media is not always correct or even resembles the truth on occasions.

 

[SouthAussie]

Stating my opinion or an opposing point of view is not arguing. Police have never stated anything that indicates Spedding does not have a verifiable alibi.

Please provide some statement that police have stated Spedding remains a POI and I dont mean a media article were the press say so.

What is out put by media is not always correct or even resembles the truth on occasions.

Conversely, are you able to provide some statement where police have stated that Spedding has been cleared as a POI? Or is that just something that is your personal assumption/opinion?

 

[Warshawski]

'Human' remains are found in rugged bushland on mid-north coast of NSW | Daily Mail Online

Police were seen surrounding a small area on Yarratt Road, Upper Lansdowne, on Thursday morning after a crew from the rural fire service made the grisly discovery about 6.10am while putting out a small fire.

The discovery was made less than an hour's drive from where three-year-old William Tyrrell disappeared from in September 2014.

The remains are believed to belong to an adult, but there are no fresh reports of anyone missing in the area.

My heart froze when I heard this news Dr ... pretty sure your's did too. . Then I heard 'adult' remains & I went to all & every place - which mostly led to questioning myself & rebuking myself for my instant thoughts of gratitude eg 'oh, it's an adult, it's not William'.
I know there are so many people who crave news of their loved ones, and I pray for answers for them. I pray also for strength for those who may have chosen to 'go off the grid', for them to at least notify their Kin of their safety.

 

[Warshawski]

That is the difficult issue. If you do see someone you know on occasions at a certain location but not everyday it is very difficult to recall weeks later a particular day and time you did see them.

With all respect PaperTrail, I think you missed my point.
In a small town, it's really not difficult to recall..... That's simply my own opinion, having experienced small town living.
No, not in That Town, nor at That Time, nor with Those People ....

 

[papertrail]

Conversely, are you able to provide some statement where police have stated that Spedding has been cleared as a POI? Or is that just something that is your personal assumption/opinion?

I don't have an opinion whether anyone of the media named pois have been cleared with an alibi. Police have said zilch so to hammer on about it is a futile exercise.

 

[sleepinoz]

Stating my opinion or an opposing point of view is not arguing. Police have never stated anything that indicates Spedding does not have a verifiable alibi.

Please provide some statement that police have stated Spedding remains a POI and I dont mean a media article were the press say so.

What is out put by media is not always correct or even resembles the truth on occasions.

I think Spedding receiving a subpoena to appear at the inquest is statement enough to say he remains a POI.

What is out put by media is not always correct, but it is mostly the only thing we are permitted to discuss here on WS due to TOS.

 

[deugirtni]

I think Spedding receiving a subpoena to appear at the inquest is statement enough to say he remains a POI.

What is out put by media is not always correct, but it is mostly the only thing we are permitted to discuss here on WS due to TOS.

Would this mean then, that the foster parents and the neighbour are also POIs?

 

[sleepinoz]

Would this mean then, that the foster parents and the neighbour are also POIs?

There has been nothing to say that they received a subpoena. Fosters are interested parties by being family, Bio's would have the same option to be represented, this doesn't make any of them POI's.

The neighbour, IMO it is still a mystery what his status is.

Spedding on the other hand, through his lawyer, advised that he received a subpoena.

 

[JLZ]

Would this mean then, that the foster parents and the neighbour are also POIs?

Foster family and neighbours are at least witnesses to what happened--whether it's of what they saw or what they didn't see. But if Spedding's story is true, he wasn't in the vicinity, he has nothing to contribute as a direct witness. He can only be there in the capacity of a POI or perhaps former POI. And if his story isn't true, and he was in the street, he should definitely be a POI.

 

[Thebottomline]

Foster family and neighbours are at least witnesses to what happened--whether it's of what they saw or what they didn't see. But if Spedding's story is true, he wasn't in the vicinity, he has nothing to contribute as a direct witness. He can only be there in the capacity of a POI or perhaps former POI. And if his story isn't true, and he was in the street, he should definitely be a POI.

I agree, it also was reported there were inconsistencies in his alibi
We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

 

[kiwi50]

I agree, it also was reported there were inconsistencies in his alibi
We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

That’s a polite way of the police saying “ he lied to us about where he was.”
That is why he is number 1 POI.
If he had been at the assembly and it had been proven, I think if had asked the police, they would have agreed to release a statement confirming he was there.

 

[kiwi50]

Actually if I had been at the Assembly and had seen him, I’d have been happy to go to the media, and confirm it, knowing what damage was being done to his reputation, but not a soul has spoken, very telling.

 

[SouthAussie]

I personally am very interested to hear what Spedding has to say to the Coroner. He has had so many opportunities to clear his own name in the media, if what Colin has said about Spedding’s whereabouts is true.

I think he is afraid to publicly say what he was doing, because he does not know what evidence the police have. He needs to wait to find that out so he can alter his story, if necessary.


Channel Nine reporter Chris O'Keefe told 2GB on Friday ...... "He wouldn't go into any specifics about where he was that day or any of the timeline surrounding where he was at the exact time William disappeared."
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...f-toddler-william-tyrell-20150123-12wpef.html

 

[JLZ]

I personally am very interested to hear what Spedding has to say to the Coroner. He has had so many opportunities to clear his own name in the media, if what Colin has said about Spedding’s whereabouts is true.

I think he is afraid to publicly say what he was doing, because he does not know what evidence the police have. He needs to wait to find that out so he can alter his story, if necessary.


Channel Nine reporter Chris O'Keefe told 2GB on Friday ...... "He wouldn't go into any specifics about where he was that day or any of the timeline surrounding where he was at the exact time William disappeared."
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...f-toddler-william-tyrell-20150123-12wpef.html

Surely police insisted that Spedding commit himself to a specific alibi when he was first interviewed and made a statement. In that case not sharing with the public won't help him stay flexible at all.

 

[SouthAussie]

Surely police insisted that Spedding commit himself to a specific alibi when he was first interviewed and made a statement. In that case not sharing with the public won't help him stay flexible at all.

Look at how many times Borce Ristevski changed his story ....

Detectives say he made inconsistent statements about his movements that day and lied to avoid detection.
Ms Gray thought Ristevski originally said he took the car to several garages for quotes that day.
But he later told Ms Gray his recollection was wrong and he had actually driven the car to get petrol but changed his mind when the faulty fuel gauge showed it wasn’t needed.
He said he then kept driving with the aim of visiting Ms Ristevki’s dress store but missed the turn-off so decided to return home.
Mercedes driver was likely Borce: court


And Daniel Holdom ....

Initially Holdom told police he had last seen Ms Pearce-Stevenson and her daughter when he dropped them at a Canberra motel in late 2008 before he got back with his ex-girlfriend.
Holdom changed his story twice, saying he had seen them in an Adelaide motel, and that his friend has dropped them at a bus stop.
‘Well-dressed man’ mystery in murders


Spedding could have already changed his story with the police, perhaps this being an inconsistency that helps keep him as a POI/suspect ... and he may change it (again?) imo. Can't keep changing your story with the public, not if a person wants some empathisers.

 

[Thebottomline]

Look at how many times Borce Ristevski changed his story ....

Detectives say he made inconsistent statements about his movements that day and lied to avoid detection.
Ms Gray thought Ristevski originally said he took the car to several garages for quotes that day.
But he later told Ms Gray his recollection was wrong and he had actually driven the car to get petrol but changed his mind when the faulty fuel gauge showed it wasn’t needed.
He said he then kept driving with the aim of visiting Ms Ristevki’s dress store but missed the turn-off so decided to return home.
Mercedes driver was likely Borce: court


And Daniel Holdom ....

Initially Holdom told police he had last seen Ms Pearce-Stevenson and her daughter when he dropped them at a Canberra motel in late 2008 before he got back with his ex-girlfriend.
Holdom changed his story twice, saying he had seen them in an Adelaide motel, and that his friend has dropped them at a bus stop.
‘Well-dressed man’ mystery in murders


Spedding could have already changed his story with the police, perhaps this being an inconsistency that helps keep him as a POI/suspect ... and he may change it (again?) imo. Can't keep changing your story with the public, not if a person wants some empathisers.

Certainly some reason he’s been subpoenaed in a suspected death of a 3 year old boy , that’s for sure . I suspect he is not there for any other reason. He was very quick to do his YouTube explanation of being innocent . One would think if he had proof of where he was that day he would have posted another video to the world to see . Maybe it’s convenient to him that William was a foster child , the general public seem to think it’s some sinister reason behind his abdication Because in that situation that is where most minds would wonder . Sorry to keep editing

 

[SouthAussie]

Certainly some reason he’s been subpoenaed in a suspected death of a 3 year old boy , that’s for sure . I suspect he is not there for any other reason. He was very quick to do his YouTube explanation of being innocent . One would think if he had proof of where he was that day he would have posted another video to the world to see . Maybe it’s convenient to him that William was a foster child , the general public seem to think it’s some sinister reason behind his abdication Because in that situation that is where most minds would wonder . Sorry to keep editing

I always have thought it strange the way that Spedding refuses to give the media an account of his movements that day, yet Colin had free reign to give a story .. complete with apparent (unseen and inconclusive) bank statement proof.
It is as if Colin gave the story to the media, Spedding can always say that Colin got it wrong, if necessary.

Yes, another weird thing is that Spedding included no details of his movements that day in his YouTube video. Why bother to do the video? It really said a lot of not-much.