Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #38

[papertrail]

It seems that costs are not paid by the losing party on numerous occasions. There are examples of this in a NSW govt publication.

... courts in defamation proceedings have often been reluctant to enforce provisions to impose costs on an unsuccessful party who had prolonged a trial by deliberate faze allegations, or continued proceedings where there was obviously no hope of success ....
Defamation
[5-4100] Costs

The Spedding case was not one of deliberate faze was it!? Was there no hope of success?!He did have success did he not?!
Costs

 

[SouthAussie]

The Spedding case was not one of deliberate faze was it!? Was there no hope of success?!He did have success did he not?!

No need to get excited. I think that Spedding's case is not over yet. From what we have been following, one of the cases is slated to go to a jury hearing, if he wishes.

Also, that is not the only situation in which costs in a defamation case are not paid by the losing party. Please read the link. That is what links are provided for ... by most people.

ETA: The link you later added is not specifically about defamation costs. The link I provided is.

 

[papertrail]

No need to get excited. I think that Spedding's case is not over yet. From what we have been following, one of the cases is slated to go to a jury hearing, if he wishes.

Also, that is not the only situation in which costs in a defamation case are not paid by the losing party. Please read the link. That is what links are provided for ... by most people.

ETA: The link you later added is not specifically about defamation costs. The link I provided is.

Lol I did read the link. Strange you would assume I didn't. Thankyou

 

[sleepinoz]

The Spedding case was not one of deliberate faze was it!? Was there no hope of success?!He did have success did he not?!
Costs

No he hasn't had success, he has won the right for part to be heard by a jury as his application was outside the limitations of application.

ETA - Just thought I should add the link again in case it wasn't read the first time I posted it.

Spedding v Nationwide News Pty Ltd [2018] NSWSC 844 (18 May 2018)

 

[papertrail]

Oh are you in America with papertrail? I didn’t realise, sorry, otherwise I’d have specified that I was speaking about Australia. My apologies- systems are different all over the world. I just assumed (obviously wrongly) that you are based in Australia
That explains so many misunderstandings.

The tragedy is, the working class in Australia can’t afford legal representation. You either have to be on what we call the dole (money for not working) or very rich. Us middle class just have to grin and bear it, so to speak. And subsidise those on the dole (pensioners sure. Do deserve this service, though). Yes another topic for another day, but certainly relevant to Spedding.

Sorry I don't understand your assertion that I am in America. With respect I am not.

 

[they'll get you]

MS looks at husband like she’s not quite sure so I wonder how sure she is these days and if/when she is questioned at the inquest will she be more ‘confident’ than she was in this clip.

@ 1:00 why the 8 seconds before he could answer if he was at the Tyrrell property and even then he did not answer the question. MS looked like she wanted to know the answer as well. IMO of course.

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[purpleandgreen]

Sorry I don't understand your assertion that I am in America. With respect I am not.

Apologies. I thought your profile originally said North America. I must have you confused with someone else.

 

[SouthAussie]

MS looks at husband like she’s not quite sure so I wonder how sure she is these days and if/when she is questioned at the inquest will she be more ‘confident’ than she was in this clip.

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Doesn't seem to matter if she is sure of him or not. But I hope that once she is isolated on the stand, any cracks in her story start to show.


They allege his wife Margaret contacted one of the alleged victims by text shortly after he was arrested and said: “It really saddens me you’re involved in this.”
We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

The wife of a man questioned over the disappearance of toddler William Tyrrell will stand by his side when he makes an expected bid for freedom, following his arrest for a number of alleged historical child sex offences.
Margaret Spedding to stand by her husband during bail application

Margaret Spedding is visibly shaken in the interview, fighting back tears as she describes the impact the police scrutiny has had on her family. "We have to do what we have to do ..."
Mr Spedding - "We'll get through this, we'll stick together and get through this."
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/william-spedding-and-wife-margaret-speak-for-first-time-on-missing-william-tyrell-20150123-12x4sl.html

 

[SouthAussie]

Sometimes I wonder if Margaret is like some US presidential wives. "You must come with me to show your support". Because I am not sure why a man would drag his wife through the media scrums of his child sex charges. It can't be good for her (in her small community) to be on full display in the media like that.
In my way of thinking, a real man would leave his wife at home to protect her - and just walk with his lawyer, or by himself, to and fro.

 

[sosocurious]

Sometimes I wonder if Margaret is like some US presidential wives. "You must come with me to show your support". Because I am not sure why a man would drag his wife through the media scrums of his child sex charges. It can't be good for her (in her small community) to be on full display in the media like that.
In my way of thinking, a real man would leave his wife at home to protect her - and just walk with his lawyer, or by himself, to and fro.

You would think so. Protect the one you love.
Now did he forget he had coffee with his wife at that crucial time? Or just that the coffees were paid by card?

 

[they'll get you]

Sometimes I wonder if Margaret is like some US presidential wives. "You must come with me to show your support". Because I am not sure why a man would drag his wife through the media scrums of his child sex charges. It can't be good for her (in her small community) to be on full display in the media like that.
In my way of thinking, a real man would leave his wife at home to protect her - and just walk with his lawyer, or by himself, to and fro.

Oh I got it SA.
D’ya mean like the Clintons?
Hillary believes me so you should too.

Mr Spedding - "We'll get through this, we'll stick together and get through this."
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/william-spedding-and-wife-margaret-speak-for-first-time-on-missing-william-tyrell-20150123-12x4sl.html

 

[SouthAussie]

Oh I got it SA.
D’ya mean like the Clintons?
Hillary believes me so you should too.

Mr Spedding - "We'll get through this, we'll stick together and get through this."
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/william-spedding-and-wife-margaret-speak-for-first-time-on-missing-william-tyrell-20150123-12x4sl.html

Yes, I can think of a far more recent one too, who has brushed off allegations of cheating on her "with a star, a Playboy Playmate or anyone else".
'The gossip sells newspapers,' Melania Trump says about allegations Donald has had affairs | CBC News

Likely because they are "sticking together", as well. imo

Sometimes it seems most important to a woman to have someone to bring the money in, pay the bills, service the car .....

 

[SouthAussie]

You would think so. Protect the one you love.
Now did he forget he had coffee with his wife at that crucial time? Or just that the coffees were paid by card?

Those would be good questions to ask at the inquest.

 

[Karinna]

Apologies. I thought your profile originally said North America. I must have you confused with someone else.

You do realize a person can be Citizen/Resident of another country and live in a different country don't you?
Why do you need to know what country someone is from?

 

[Karinna]

Have any of the main players in WT's case ever been asked to do a Polygraph?

 

[Bohemian]

You know what I find strange? That B&MS would ask Chris O’Keefe to record an interview with them:

William Spedding claims he had nothing to do with William Tyrell disappearance | Daily Mail Online

 

[they'll get you]

Yes, I can think of a far more recent one too, who has brushed off allegations of cheating on her "with a star, a Playboy Playmate or anyone else".
'The gossip sells newspapers,' Melania Trump says about allegations Donald has had affairs | CBC News

Likely because they are "sticking together", as well. imo

Sometimes it seems most important to a woman to have someone to bring the money in, pay the bills, service the car .....

True SA. Infidelity is one thing but paedophilia is in an unforgivable league.

 

[JLZ]

Sometimes I wonder if Margaret is like some US presidential wives. "You must come with me to show your support". Because I am not sure why a man would drag his wife through the media scrums of his child sex charges. It can't be good for her (in her small community) to be on full display in the media like that.
In my way of thinking, a real man would leave his wife at home to protect her - and just walk with his lawyer, or by himself, to and fro.

I don't think she needs protecting. I think she's in her element showing how supportive she can be. She probably prefers him when he's in trouble. JMO.

 

[Karinna]

Have been reading various missing person cases examined by the NSW Coroner and the below para is always included in the beginning stages of the report. I note the words clear, cogent and exact. The reports are on the NSW Coroner website.

...
The decision about whether a person is dead is considered a “threshold question” in a
missing person case.

Given the seriousness of the finding, it is well established that the court should apply the Briginshaw standard.

The proof of death must be clear, cogent and exact. At common law, there is a presumption in favour of the continuance of life however, it is not a rigid presumption and the circumstances of any given case must be carefully examined before a finding of death can be made.

Hi PT, I think that was from the link i posted up and have been reading of the CI's and the Coroner's findings on that website too. Just the cases on there of missing presumed deceased, and did you read the one about the guy that had been through a criminal Trial and was acquitted, and then the Coronial Inquest? It was interesting how the police set him up too. Here is the link if you want to read it if you haven't already.
http://www.coroners.justice.nsw.gov.au/Documents/Andrew Russell Findings.pdf

 

[sosocurious]

You know what I find strange? That B&MS would ask Chris O’Keefe to record an interview with them:

William Spedding claims he had nothing to do with William Tyrell disappearance | Daily Mail Online

Strange because he has been a state political reporter since May 2014?