Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #39

[they'll get you]

I hear you TGY.

It's My opinion that the WHOLE department with a remit to attend to the Care of our People (Adults & children ) needs a drastic overhaul under the guidance of care & compassion, sense & sensibility, reality & rationalisation to start with. .... those comments are not in any judgement of the mostly well-meaning & over-worked people on the ground.

Pensioners wait for months for their entitlements. Pushed to the brink of starvation & eviction, borrowing from family & friends, after spending years in service to this country, paying their taxes & contrbuting accordingly.

Widows & Widowers, victims of domestic violence, people who have contributed & are now in need of a helping hand, mostly to provide a sense of care & stability for their vunerable young ones - these people are made to feel like 2nd class citizens, to beg & borrow & to have their self esteem reduced to O ...

Children left in abysmal situations; childten removed from situations & placed in worse!

Being of the belief that The Fish Rots From the Top, it's my opinion that our country & society would be much better served if our (mostly) self-serving Bureaucrats had a remuneration that was matched to genuine humane solutions - as opposed to 'all about cost cutting'.

It's totally absurd that information that could aid a person's safety is stifled by the rules from a 'department' - Who made those rules ? Under what decision criteria ?
How Many Children Do We Allow To Be Exposed to dreadful situations, to harm & otherwise Before We Step In ?

With an election looming, I hope someone with so called 'power' has the moral fortitude to get real!

At the same time I'm appreciative of the efforts & enquiry being invested in finding answers for this little boy.
I continue to pray for his salvation & for justice. Hopefully you'll all join me, after all, a problem shared (once) is a problem halved. I can only wonder at the Power of multitudes

I absolutely loved every word here.
Great post Warshawski & keep ‘em coming.

 

[they'll get you]

Really ? I'm sure in saw reported this morning that his biological mother was in tears ......

biological grandmother was in tears.

 

[papertrail]

And according to Dr Sleuth who attended inquest the foster parents had organized cat boarding at last minute and that is why the family were able to go to Kendall a day early. So there was someone else who knew family was going away. The cat sitters and Salvation Army Youth Hope support staff member(s) who were the accredited agency representing FACS.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

This has always troubled me PT. .. Surely someone rise to do airport pick up, even if Police...
Also, there's no way I could've left the site in case he realpeared!

Completely incomprehensible, IMO!! Did the two adults (mother/daughter) need time to talk/discuss
undisturbed ...? By the best will I can't see another reason. MOO

 

[papertrail]

In one of the documentary interviews I am sure one of the foster parents said the children had not been back to visit FGM since her husband's death or funeral. We now know he died in mid Feb 2014. I think it was Dr Sleuth who yesterday attended the Inquest and from his understanding the foster family had blanket cover from the care Agency to take the children to Kendall. Would this mean they were still required to give dates they would be away from their home base in Sydney?

 

[papertrail]

Completely incomprehensible, IMO!! Did the two adults (mother/daughter) need time to talk/discuss
undisturbed ...? By the best will I can't see another reason. MOO

It is the (alleged) fact that the police permitted this to occur is disturbing to me. Someone on here said they thought there was a police escort. I have never seen any evidence of this.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

For a man to ‘lock eyes’ with a woman and give a ‘challenging look’. He’s been up to no good.

bbm
He would be the very first person for me to remember immediately, when my little boy would disappear a short time after this encounter. Next thing to remember just then would be the other cars at their unusual parking place across the street. At least I think so, that these things wouldn't suddenly disappear out of my brain (or similar wording). MOO

 

[papertrail]

bbm
He would be the very first person for me to remember immediately, when my little boy would disappear a short time after this encounter. Next thing to remember just then would be the other cars at their unusual parking place across the street. At least I think so, that these things wouldn't suddenly disappear out of my brain (or similar wording). MOO

I find it incomprehensible that there had never been a description of this man released previously. We the public were told about his car but not him! It seems from foster mothers testimony the police are unable to have prepared an identikit that matches what she describes. This is incredible. Police are known to use hypnosis therapy to draw information out of vital witnesses and I certainly hope this avenue had been explored.

We do not know if the presence of the 3rd car was revealed on the abduction day do we?

I don't think the foster mother's description of when they eyeballed each other would be 'locking' eyes. More like a fleeting glimpse.

 

[mishunicorn22]

It is the (alleged) fact that the police permitted this to occur is disturbing to me. Someone on here said they thought there was a police escort. I have never seen any evidence of this.

Bit hinky imo
This driving to pick someone up sounds odd at best. I’ve had family crisis times and at no time was any of the family in any fit state to be driving. From my experience I wouldn’t be moving to far from the property.., I’d want to be on the spot making sure everything was being done n to find “my” child... I know everyone’s different but still seems a bit off. How would the police allow this as well, a child is missing and EVERYONE is a possible perpetrator until proven otherwise? I’m confused by this

 

[mishunicorn22]

I find it incomprehensible that there had never been a description of this man released previously. We the public were told about his car but not him! It seems from foster mothers testimony the police are unable to have prepared an identikit that matches what she describes. This is incredible. Police are known to use hypnosis therapy to draw information out of vital witnesses and I certainly hope this avenue had been explored.

We do not know if the presence of the 3rd car was revealed on the abduction day do we?

I don't think the foster mother's description of when they eyeballed each other would be 'locking' eyes. More like a fleeting glimpse.

Agree plus the distance from said car and where FM was on the property is a ways apart... locking looks from that distance? Mmm

 

[papertrail]

The 3rd car turned into the driveway of the house at number 52? This is the house foster father described as being vacant in the now released police recreation interview of his search on the day? He described how he had searched the yard area and ensured the caravan in carport area was locked.

Did this 3rd car driver get surprised by foster mothers' presence with her daughter in the top driveway of 48? Was 52 being cased for a robbery? Were the other 2 cars part of a casing/robbery team? The 2 cars were 1st spotted by foster mother at around 7am and were around for 2 hours and spotted by her when she played with William.

Views of the rear of 52 on the police video show a fair bit of stuff stored under the rear raised deck area which looked similar in style to the area behind 48.

 

[frogwell]

Could you be thinking of the Lia Harris interview for Daily Telegraph? FM describes seeing the two cars (but not the third one) and then later remembering them when returning from the airport: Part 1 on YouTube, starting about 11:35.

Yes, that is it, Thanks so much

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 2m2 minutes ago
The inquest into William Tyrrell’s disappearance will resume today with further testimony from his foster mother. I’ll be live on @Studio10au at 9.30 with details. @10NewsFirst

 

[purpleandgreen]

Think it’s worth remembering that the FM has been cleared. Many times over, and over, and over. She is also a victim here. Her grief is like a bottomless pit. She has my greatest sympathies and support.

 

[sleepinoz]

Morning All,

I can't do the Tweets this morning, if someone else could I would appreciate it. I should be able to after the lunch break. TIA

 

[papertrail]

Agree plus the distance from said car and where FM was on the property is a ways apart... locking looks from that distance? Mmm

The lower edge of 52 driveway is approx 42 metres from upper egde of top driveway of 48.

Do we know if 3rd car turned into drive of no 52 or another driveway opposite 48?

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Morning All,

I can't do the Tweets this morning, if someone else could I would appreciate it. I should be able to after the lunch break. TIA

Morning, sleep!! I'm more than happy to assist with the tweets!

 

[sleepinoz]

Morning, sleep!! I'm more than happy to assist with the tweets!

Thanks UT - I'll let you know when I'm able to help (You might need a break by then)

 

[papertrail]

Think it’s worth remembering that the FM has been cleared. Many times over, and over, and over. She is also a victim here. Her grief is like a bottomless pit. She has my greatest sympathies and support.

It goes without saying. I think what people are surprised by is the information that has been withheld from the public by the police. Not apportioning any blame on any member of either bio or foster family members. The police obviously decided what the families were able to say in previous documentaries and now we have anomalies from what was previously considered. Such as the phone call made to FGM to say the family were arriving on Thursday not Friday. The driving with William's sister and FGM to pickup FM sister at airport. The 3rd vehicle driver recognition.

 

[they'll get you]

Agree plus the distance from said car and where FM was on the property is a ways apart... locking looks from that distance? Mmm

I can see the scenario perfectly. She was innocently with her daughter in the driveway, he turns around and both look at the car, girl points, and he looks at them momentarily. IIRC a look that’s says ‘what are you looking at?’
If people were looking at my car I’d wonder if I had a flat tyre or something.
It could’ve been anything in a snippet of time.

My question is where was William at this time.