Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #39

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Summons - Leave to Appeal: DAILYMAIL.COM AUSTRALIA PTY LTD v William Spedding
Party name(s) William Spedding
Date 01 Apr
Case number 2019/00010692

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Could it be, they are just waiting for the inquest ...?

 

[papertrail]

Could it be, they are just waiting for the inquest ...?

Or could it be the date was the date convenient for the legal counsel and the inquest had nothing to do with date choice.

 

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[papertrail]

 

[iailwa]

Hi guys - I have a feeling the inquest is not going ahead for 25th March

I rang Lidcombe and was on hold for quite a while this time, and was then was told I had to send an email to find out. Just doesn't sound promising. In a way - well - if they are not ready because Jubes is gone, then they should have time to be ready.

Just a little disappointing is all but we must be patient - anything for little William right?

 

[papertrail]

Hi guys - I have a feeling the inquest is not going ahead for 25th March

I rang Lidcombe and was on hold for quite a while this time, and was then was told I had to send an email to find out. Just doesn't sound promising. In a way - well - if they are not ready because Jubes is gone, then they should have time to be ready.

Just a little disappointing is all but we must be patient - anything for little William right?

The Registrar verified with my friend last week the Inquest is going ahead and I posted the inclusive dates. The Inquest IS commencing on the 25th.

 

[papertrail]

What I have noticed on the NSW Law Link site is all Coroners' Inquest case names include the wording ''Inquest into the death of''.

As we know currently William is considered a missing child. This may be the reason William's case listing is not listed on the public site. They may not have a predetermined parameter in which to list the case. A disappearance of a child is very rare.

 

[papertrail]

Another thing to keep in mind is the Coroners' Office put up a public notice on their website advising of upcoming Inquests from 7 days prior to commencement. Therefore notices regarding William's inquest should start appearing on the 18th.

Here is a link to the upcoming inquest site

http://www.coroners.justice.nsw.gov.au/Pages/upcoming_inquests.aspx

 

[iailwa]

Another thing to keep in mind is the Coroners' Office put up a public notice on their website advising of upcoming Inquests from 7 days prior to commencement. Therefore notices regarding William's inquest should start appearing on the 18th.

Here is a link to the upcoming inquest site

Upcoming inquests

I think the issue was that previously it was listed on the site but now it's not. I received an email from the coroners court this morn that it is all going ahead on the 25th - yay for little William!

 

[papertrail]

I think the issue was that previously it was listed on the site but now it's not. I received an email from the coroners court this morn that it is all going ahead on the 25th - yay for little William!

It was previously listed on the NSW Law List site. see my comments re the removal from that site up thread.

 

[papertrail]

11 days to go

 

[iailwa]

11 days to go

Don't worry i believe you - whatever it was - no need to check lol. All good

 

[JLZ]

Still on the subject of Jubes and his reported removal as lead detective of SFR, I think if the matter was anything more than peculiar to that particular team, he would no longer be lead detective of any other cases, let alone this one, (which is a Critical Incident Team investigation into a death during a police operation[1]):

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Another possibility occurred to me, that the staff management issue might be the opposite of bullying; ie Jubelin saying, we can't be ready for the inquest by that date, staff have many hours of overtime clocked up from working this case, some of them have leave booked and I'm not going to cancel it, they need and deserve their break. And some senior people said, the inquest has to go ahead, and if you can't get it organized, we'll put someone in charge who will.

 

[sosocurious]

What I have noticed on the NSW Law Link site is all Coroners' Inquest case names include the wording ''Inquest into the death of''.

As we know currently William is considered a missing child. This may be the reason William's case listing is not listed on the public site. They may not have a predetermined parameter in which to list the case. A disappearance of a child is very rare.

On the list you mention there is an entry on the 3 April that says Inquest into the disappearance and suspected death of ......................
I am sure that is what the link posted some days ago said.

 

[Wexford]

Another possibility occurred to me, that the staff management issue might be the opposite of bullying; ie Jubelin saying, we can't be ready for the inquest by that date, staff have many hours of overtime clocked up from working this case, some of them have leave booked and I'm not going to cancel it, they need and deserve their break. And some senior people said, the inquest has to go ahead, and if you can't get it organized, we'll put someone in charge who will.

I always got the impression from pressers that he wasn't that keen for it to go to inquest at any time soon. You could be right.

 

[iailwa]

Don't worry i believe you - whatever it was - no need to check lol. All good

oops i thought you said 11 days ago (your post to check back on) but you actually said 11 days to go... my silly @papertrail

 

[iailwa]

My understanding is the application for a warrant specifies what actions police intend to take and the process they wish to use to undertake the intended actions. Once the warrant is issued all actions and processes must be within the parameters of the issued warrant.

BBM above. I'm uncertain if that's entirely the case, but I could be wrong. It's my understanding that certain things are outlined in a warrant, but if there is something else that catches their eye while looking - but not specified in the warrant, then they may pursue that... After all, they don't always know what evidence they may find. AFAIK this is true but just MOO to be sure. I don't know how loosely you would define "within the parameters of the issued warrant" as above, but I believe the parameters can be stretched fairly wide.

 

[papertrail]

BBM above. I'm uncertain if that's entirely the case, but I could be wrong. It's my understanding that certain things are outlined in a warrant, but if there is something else that catches their eye while looking - but not specified in the warrant, then they may pursue that... After all, they don't always know what evidence they may find. AFAIK this is true but just MOO to be sure. I don't know how loosely you would define "within the parameters of the issued warrant" as above, but I believe the parameters can be stretched fairly wide.

The wording inserted into the warrant is normally conveyed in the broadest sense.

 

[iailwa]

The wording inserted into the warrant is normally conveyed in the broadest sense.

Oh it sounded to me like you didn't think so, but it seems we agree. It's seems fairly ambiguous, but certainly not specific... there's some grey areas MOO.

 

[papertrail]

Another possibility occurred to me, that the staff management issue might be the opposite of bullying; ie Jubelin saying, we can't be ready for the inquest by that date, staff have many hours of overtime clocked up from working this case, some of them have leave booked and I'm not going to cancel it, they need and deserve their break. And some senior people said, the inquest has to go ahead, and if you can't get it organized, we'll put someone in charge who will.

I have always believed if the Coroner decides there will be an inquest then there will be an inquest.

I believe it more likely FACS pushed for the Inquest.

I do not believe police can say yes or no to an inquest.