Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #40

[bearbear]

Not that they weren't there before (his problems) - but - i don't like the fact that 2 people had bad "black cloud" feelings before anything had happened....

who was the other person besides bc with the foreboding?

 

[purpleandgreen]

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[purpleandgreen]

There’s no malice intented. We respect all victims on Websleuths.

Just as we respect each other; in keeping with WS TOS.

 

[iailwa]

i find it interesting, weird, funny how the journos describe what the witnesses are wearing... the fms shoulder length hair and yesterday ffs pink shirt and skinny jeans, and today kts black trousersuit?
haha! really who cares?

the kardashians do...& perhaps their followers lol. I'm with you tho, it's ludicrous

 

[louisepiglet]

Apparently bio Gm had only seen William once but obviously spoke to her son ( bio dad) regularly. Or did he just call her out of the blue that day. He says he cannot remember that conversation. Maybe it didn't happen.

 

[purpleandgreen]

Some women are quite masculine looking. I wonder if the big man the fm saw was actually a big woman.

Now that's an interesting question, Louise, and certainly one I've not entertained previously. And we should always look at all angles with an open mind.

 

[purpleandgreen]

I recall it being said somewhere (Karlies interview maybe) the police knocked on the door about 4pm. Karlie had already been out shopping for baby things.
Brendan was at Macca's for hours. Maybe he wanted to use the free wifi.

Yep the free wi-fi could be the go. Didn't think about that.

ETA. Does it have a time limit?

 

[gregjrichards]

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Bio Dad has had a very complex and difficult life having your kids taken from you and for your son to go missing not knowing if he is dead or alive or where he is would push you to breaking point. I’m not surprised his mental health and addiction issues have suffered under the circumstances.

I’m not a moderator but we all need to be careful about discussing William’s family foster and biological and the case otherwise the thread will get locked. We need to be mindful of the TOS and not make any suggestions or accusations of their involvement when there is no evidence to suggest this is the case.

 

[iailwa]

who was the other person besides bc with the foreboding?

i don't know. Other members have been saying it - a msn piece about it was posted but i could not open it...

 

[louisepiglet]

The bio family have been cleared of any involvement in Williams abduction but BC was asked in court "if he had any information regarding William's whereabouts would he share that with the police". He was the only person up until now that was asked this question.IMO

 

[they'll get you]

Are you telling us how we should comment?

We are permitted to give our opinion of the testimony today.

We have discussed everything about the inquest this week and are allowed to speak of the hint of aggression on the stand as MSM articles has discussed spitting at cops and foul language in public and she showed hints of that anger today. Most people might refrain.
If people have ‘prior MSM form’ then yes it’s within TOS.

 

[Freddo Frog]

Thank you to everyone who keeps us all updated. I have not posted in a while and to be honest am trying to wrap my head around everything.



The alleged connections of Bio grandma's friend to certain people in the area I find so bizarre, it is a crazy. scary coincidence.

While both BPs have been cleared ss it is can be confirmed that they were in Sydney on the day - they have an alibi and given their prior incident of hiding with WT, could have known the police would come knocking there first.

A theory could be that they (or just the BM) got word of possible adoption, the bios had connection(s) in the town and perhaps one of the neighbours knew the connection(s) and then arranged for the abduction. BS does not come to repair as to not place himself there. Perhaps a neighbour was a watchperson on the house/street to signal an opportune time. Or a neighbour took him.

I know it seems very farfetched but the case is so bizarre. I just hope wherever he is he is alive and well. Could during the abduction something had gone wrong? I hope not.

Snipped for brevity.

Your theory could perhaps tie in with my musings that PS has had his whereabouts on the day questioned for a particular reason. I am not saying that PS took William, I am not convinced on that, but the recent focus on him could be because he MAY have (theoretically) acted as an accessory in some way to William's so-called abductor. I have not discounted my long-held theory that BS IS somehow involved in William's disappearance, either. Again, I do not think BS took William but may have helped facilitate it.

I think your theory is something worth considering (for me) as I do have my suspicions about NC.

 

[they'll get you]

Cheez, what do they sell at that McDonalds? And how do you spend 'several hours' at McDonalds?

Why not Cluck’n’chuck?

 

[they'll get you]

The second half of this inquest will be unbelievable.

 

[JLZ]

i don't know. Other members have been saying it - a msn piece about it was posted but i could not open it...

Soso quoted the relevant part (#623).

NC described a relative who had a black cloud experience on the day of William's abduction and didn't go to work. It sounded like he was living at her place and she saw him go through it. BC's evidence is that he went through something like the same thing, but what puzzled us was that he wasn't living with NC. So, either there were two of them (brothers?), one living with NC and one not, or NC is somewhat misleadingly describing something she didn't see for herself. Which is quite likely.

 

[frogwell]

BC would leave for work at 5.30. The phonecall that he did not recall with NC the morning of the day WT disappeared happened at 5 am. NC would get up for work at 4.30am and talk many morning s to BC around 5a.m. She said in a statement that on that day he was saying things were not feeling right. I imagine at that time of the day, the sky was black. He decided not to go to work, he doesn't remember the conversation but he remembers feeling that way often at that period of time probably through stress and emotions about stuff going on between him and KT and FaCS in their lives and it was getting on top of him. He went to Maccas at about 5.30, 6.00am and was there for a couple of hours with his tablet, no phone.

 

[sleepinoz]

Soso quoted the relevant part (#623).

NC described a relative who had a black cloud experience on the day of William's abduction and didn't go to work. It sounded like he was living at her place and she saw him go through it. BC's evidence is that he went through something like the same thing, but what puzzled us was that he wasn't living with NC. So, either there were two of them (brothers?), one living with NC and one not, or NC is somewhat misleadingly describing something she didn't see for herself. Which is quite likely.

I'm going with the misleading by BGM

 

[purpleandgreen]

BC would leave for work at 5.30. The phonecall that he did not recall with NC the morning of the day WT disappeared happened at 5 am. NC would get up for work at 4.30am and talk many morning s to BC around 5a.m. She said in a statement that on that day he was saying things were not feeling right. I imagine at that time of the day, the sky was black. He decided not to go to work, he doesn't remember the conversation but he remembers feeling that way often at that period of time probably through stress and emotions about stuff going on between him and KT and FaCS in their lives and it was getting on top of him. He went to Maccas at about 5.30, 6.00am and was there for a couple of hours with his tablet, no phone.

Is that from today's inquest, Frog? Makes such a difference when you have the whole picture instead of just a snippet. Thank you so much.

 

[frogwell]

Both BC and KT had to be reminded to be mindful of talking in general terms as there was a suppression order. They both struggled at times, the coroner said everyone had had difficulty so far. The would both be in the middle of a reply and have to be stopped for using a name and you could see it was frustrating. KT gave clear evidence. BC had to be drawn back to the time frame or the question more regularly in his responses. I thought BC was respectful. KT was respectful, both had anger or frustration or a lot of emotion just below the surface. I found the testimony heartbreaking...

 

[JLZ]

BC would leave for work at 5.30. The phonecall that he did not recall with NC the morning of the day WT disappeared happened at 5 am. NC would get up for work at 4.30am and talk many morning s to BC around 5a.m. She said in a statement that on that day he was saying things were not feeling right. I imagine at that time of the day, the sky was black. He decided not to go to work, he doesn't remember the conversation but he remembers feeling that way often at that period of time probably through stress and emotions about stuff going on between him and KT and FaCS in their lives and it was getting on top of him. He went to Maccas at about 5.30, 6.00am and was there for a couple of hours with his tablet, no phone.

If he'd gone to work, would he have been with other people, or did he work alone? (Wondering if he needed an alibi which he wouldn't necessarily have had at work, if he worked alone.)

Did Brendan and Karlie see each other give evidence?