Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #40

[iailwa]

Is it the kind of vehicle a person allegedly planning to be involved in a child abduction would drive? Not in my mind. They are normally noisy and standout to be identified due to size and brand recognition.

What if (scenario only) the green car man - with red hair - saw the potential when he turned there, and then came back a little later - would he have time to find a better vehicle? The patience? Just my thoughts...

 

[papertrail]

I remember Mrs. Wilson quoted as saying she had left around 9am. (Same approx time as FD, as it turns out.)

You could be right
The day William Tyrrell vanished

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 30s31 seconds ago
The foster father told the court while he was searching, he asked anyone he came across if they’d seen a little boy and “told them his name was William and he was wearing a Spider Man outfit” @10NewsFirst @10Daily

 

[papertrail]

A message posted by Lia before she started reporting today.

...For those following my tweets, please be aware that William’s foster parents have been cleared of any involvement in his disappearance. Speculation suggesting otherwise is not relevant or helpful.

 

[Eloise]

The laws of the land must be obeyed. Name and photo suppression is there for a reason.

Anyone who wants to find out someone's identity can easily do it these days though. Covering up identities in this case hasn't been helpful with at all. The law needs to move with the times and accept that people can find things out without names even being published.

It might not have been issue - but they have another child - who deserves anonymity...

Yup, and we all know her name. Everyone who has any interest in the case knows her name. And it's not because of the MSM.

I'm not saying there needs to be some kind of blanket publicity of foster kids but in *this case* finding William should have been the priority over protecting the identity of a kid that everyone with even a small interest in the case could have found anyway (without reading a single MSM article). The law needs to move with the times.

eta I feel the same about the journos being prosecuted for naming Pell before they should have. We all just went and read US or UK sites to find out who it was. It was on the Internet within moments of the first verdict. The law just refuses to accept the reality of the Internet - you can't hide anything.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 8s8 seconds ago
The foster father tells the court he was concerned about the many creeks and dams in the bushland behind the properties while searching for William. @10Daily @10NewsFirst

Letisha Marambio‏Verified account @LetishaMarambio 2m2 minutes ago
William Tyrrell inquest day 3 has begun with his foster dad giving evidence - he's going over a map of Benaroon drive telling the inquest what ground he covered in the immediate search @10NewsFirstSyd @10NewsFirst

 

[they'll get you]

I remember Mrs. Wilson quoted as saying she had left around 9am. (Same approx time as FD, as it turns out.)

Id love to know where Mr Wilson was and what time did he leave after his wife.
He pinpointed the time Mrs W left but in an article I read Mrs w said she was not home and my husband was not home.
It was Mrs W in an article said she’d heard the children playing next door.

I can’t find the article that states this now.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 1m1 minute ago
William’s foster father tells the court he searched until “the sun was starting to go down” on that first day. He said he began to worry about “food and water and shelter” if he was lost in the bush. @10NewsFirst @10Daily

Letisha Marambio‏Verified account @LetishaMarambio 2m2 minutes ago
William's foster dad says he searched until the sun went down - it was then he started to "worry about food, shelter, water if he was lost" @10NewsFirstSyd

 

[papertrail]

Anyone who wants to find out someone's identity can easily do it these days though. Covering up identities in this case hasn't been helpful with at all. The law needs to move with the times and accept that people can find things out without names even being published.


Yup, and we all know her name. Everyone who has any interest in the case knows her name. And it's not because of the MSM.

I'm not saying there needs to be some kind of blanket publicity of foster kids but in *this case* finding William should have been the priority over protecting the identity of a kid that everyone with even a small interest in the case could have found anyway (without reading a single MSM article). The law needs to move with the times.

eta I feel the same about the journos being prosecuted for naming Pell before they should have. We all just went and read US or UK sites to find out who it was. It was on the Internet within moments of the first verdict. The law just refuses to accept the reality of the Internet - you can't hide anything.

The police took no action neither did FACS to remove telephone directory listings.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Letisha Marambio‏Verified account @LetishaMarambio 20s21 seconds ago
Foster father is asked "During Saturday & Sunday did you believe that William was out there somewhere and you would find him?
“I had hope, I had hope.” he replies @10NewsFirstSyd @10Daily

Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 1m1 minute ago
William’s foster father told the court he still “had hope” of finding William in the two days after he disappeared. @10NewsFirst @10Daily

 

[iailwa]

Anyone who wants to find out someone's identity can easily do it these days though. Covering up identities in this case hasn't been helpful with at all. The law needs to move with the times and accept that people can find things out without names even being published.


Yup, and we all know her name. Everyone who has any interest in the case knows her name. And it's not because of the MSM.

I'm not saying there needs to be some kind of blanket publicity of foster kids but in *this case* finding William should have been the priority over protecting the identity of a kid that everyone with even a small interest in the case could have found anyway (without reading a single MSM article). The law needs to move with the times.

eta I feel the same about the journos being prosecuted for naming Pell before they should have. We all just went and read US or UK sites to find out who it was. It was on the Internet within moments of the first verdict. The law just refuses to accept the reality of the Internet - you can't hide anything.

To tell you the truth - i'm trying hard & i can't remember her name! Anyway, I think we know where you stand and that's fine. Different strokes for different folks

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 38s39 seconds ago
The foster father says he knew William would not have gone into the dense and steep bush at the end of Benaroon Drive. He would “follow the path of least resistance”. @10Daily @10NewsFirst

Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 51s51 seconds ago
The foster father tells the court everyone he spoke to on Benaroon Drive that day said they would help with the search. @10Daily @10NewsFirst

 

[papertrail]

Id love to know where Mr Wilson was and what time did he leave after his wife.
He pinpointed the time Mrs W left but in an article I read Mrs w said she was not home and my husband was not home.
It was Mrs W in an article said she’d heard the children playing next door.

I can’t find the article that states this now.

Yeah I remember that....down to the minute wasn't it.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 11s12 seconds ago
William’s foster father is asked about his “frantic” behaviour in the minutes after he disappeared and told the court “There was method to my madness...searching the immediate areas” @10Daily @10NewsFirst

 

[deugirtni]

I feel that you wouldn't have such a strong reaction to see the make of car. I think it was the actual car. She said the police identified "the car" not the make of car.

I'm not sure.. because if she saw a photograph of the same model in the same color, she may very well have the same reaction.. how would she be able to tell whether that was or was not the 'same'/actual car? But if police *were* able to track down that actual car (like say if it was the postie driving that car that day, or something, or someone who came forward like they were supposed to, and said, hey I was in that neighbourhood that day.. blah blah), that is great, but then they wouldn't still need to be doing drawings.. because knowing the actual vehicle, would also give the actual driver, wouldn't it?

 

[Eloise]

To tell you the truth - i'm trying hard & i can't remember her name! Anyway, I think we know where you stand and that's fine. Different strokes for different folks

to be clear I do think that while the law stands, you need to follow that law. especially journalists, because it's their career and professional ethical responsibility to follow the law. I just think the law is an (sometimes). in *this* case, trying to cover up identities has slowed down the investigation imo. but change comes slowly, etc

anyway it's mostly beside the point and yeah, I don't want to clog up this magnificent thread with philosophical debate

 

[sleepinoz]

I often wonder how 'controlled' the search was on the first day, after a FB call out.

There would have been a number of cars coming and going during the initial period, did Police watch all cars?

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 10s10 seconds ago
William’s foster father has finished his evidence and been excused. @10Daily @10NewsFirst

 

[deugirtni]

Yes AMS was there when FM made call but FF had already arrived home and was searching before the neighbours came out to help.FF says it in this video,FM name is bleeped.
Video: Foster father describes moments before William's disappearance | Daily Mail Online

Thank you.. all this time I had thought FM had called police before FD was back.

 

[deugirtni]

I know. I wish one of those houses on the street had a security camera.
When it was first announced in the media about the cars I did wonder at the timing and if it was a tactic by police to make a POI think they had been seen.

That is very surprising that none of the homes had security cams?? Maybe we will find out eventually that there were some?? On second thought, I guess not, or perhaps we'd have the perp behind bars by now!