Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #41

[Thebottomline]

Media organizations currently use a lot of tactics to drive the public to their websites due to falling readership of paper copy. It's all about $s for them. Each click is money. The only new reveal was the 3rd stop on drive to Kendall on 11th. The podcast repeated most info already widely known.

Do you think the foster parents would put themselves out there on these podcasts for dollars for the network ? Not everything is about the dollars, believe it or not some some journalists just may have a genuine interest in helping Williams plight . Sometimes it really is what it is. I see Lisa Harris as just like all of us here, desperate to find out what happened to William

 

[Thebottomline]

Never mind, I'm done trying to explain. Some just don't get it, or don't want to because of their beliefs.

As my signature says - "People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe." - Andy Rooney

I understand your point and what you were saying

 

[SouthAussie]

I understand your point and what you were saying

I'm pretty sure all of us understand, TBL.

That is why I roll and scroll.

 

[frogwell]

Never mind, I'm done trying to explain. Some just don't get it, or don't want to because of their beliefs.

As my signature says - "People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe." - Andy Rooney

I have tried very hard to understand your post and to verify if my understanding is correct.
1. I checked my thinking and told your idea was opposite to what I had come up with.
2. I asked you just to be straight up about who you were talking about, you weren't forthcoming and said you couldn't really make it any plainer and I copped a sideways swipe for choosing not to get it.
3. I re-read previous posts to see if I had missed something, and thought I came across a clue about who you were referring to. I posted a very apt. article unfortunately it was behind a paywall so you couldn't see it, I wonder if anyone else bothered to look at it.
4. I found another article with the said person in it, you said no.
5. I double checked by sending a pm and you didn't reply.

In the midst of that I have watched others who all seem to have understood your 1st post, put me down, and I have to say I have learned a lot about members character on this forum and how they project it onto those who do not share the same opinion as them.

 

[sosocurious]

More that 7,500 signatures.

 

[SouthAussie]

I have tried very hard to understand your post and to verify if my understanding is correct.
1. I checked my thinking and told your idea was opposite to what I had come up with.
2. I asked you just to be straight up about who you were talking about, you weren't forthcoming and said you couldn't really make it any plainer and I copped a sideways swipe for choosing not to get it.
3. I re-read previous posts to see if I had missed something, and thought I came across a clue about who you were referring to. I posted a very apt. article unfortunately it was behind a paywall so you couldn't see it, I wonder if anyone else bothered to look at it.
4. I found another article with the said person in it, you said no.
5. I double checked by sending a pm and you didn't reply.

In the midst of that I have watched others who all seem to have understood your 1st post, put me down, and I have to say I have learned a lot about members character on this forum and how they project it onto those who do not share the same opinion as them.

That's the whole thing, frogwell.

You are looking for a specific person who has put pressure on others. Sleep, I believe, is trying to say that officers sometimes feel pressure from another officer(s) above them who make them feel pressured into agreeing. In this instance, agreeing about allegations of bullying/management style/ and perhaps a few about recordings.

Sleep can't be made to point to anyone specific if sleep is not speaking of anyone specific.
It is a general blue wall of silence or police cooperation with each other. Pressure felt to remain part of the team, the inner circle.

Apologies, sleep, if I put words in your mouth, but a response here was warranted as our character is being called into question. I think because we goof around a bit, from time to time

This is all I have to say about this, and now I will agree to disagree.

 

[SouthAussie]

More that 7,500 signatures.

Yep, that clicker keeps on turning, and the positive comments for Jubes keep on piling on.
I hope this helps Jubes feel acknowledged by the public for his wonderful years of service for NSW.

 

[sosocurious]

I am looking forward to next weeks podcast. We will hear about William from the start.

 

[papertrail]

Do you think the foster parents would put themselves out there on these podcasts for dollars for the network ? Not everything is about the dollars, believe it or not some some journalists just may have a genuine interest in helping Williams plight . Sometimes it really is what it is. I see Lisa Harris as just like all of us here, desperate to find out what happened to William

The foster parents are desperate and being used.

 

[SouthAussie]

I am looking forward to next weeks podcast. We will hear about William from the start.

Me, too. It will be good to hear about the background, from a close journo's perspective.
Lia Harris seems like a compassionate person, and I feel she will deliver the podcast gracefully.
Former crime producer at Channel 7 & crime reporter at The Sunday Telegraph.(And she is SA born and bred )

 

[sosocurious]

The foster parents are desperate and being used.

Desperate to know what happened to William and for him to come home. Being used pfffft!!

 

[Thebottomline]

The foster parents are desperate and being used.

Bollocks, what authority do you think you have to state that. Nothing to back up such a statement

 

[frogwell]

And as per “charges “ BS was charged with horrid sexual crimes against very young girls. At the time many here said he’s charged not convicted , guilty till proven innocent etc. let’s be fair and afford GJ the same until he has his day in court on accusations he like BS strenuously denies

BBM
freudian slip much? and the bolded part was how he was treated by many on this forum and his wife....

 

[Thebottomline]

It would be great if that were true. IMO

BBM
freudian slip much? and the bolded part was how he was treated by many on this forum and his wife....

Not a Freudian slip, just a simple typo

 

[sleepinoz]

I have tried very hard to understand your post and to verify if my understanding is correct.
1. I checked my thinking and told your idea was opposite to what I had come up with.
2. I asked you just to be straight up about who you were talking about, you weren't forthcoming and said you couldn't really make it any plainer and I copped a sideways swipe for choosing not to get it.
3. I re-read previous posts to see if I had missed something, and thought I came across a clue about who you were referring to. I posted a very apt. article unfortunately it was behind a paywall so you couldn't see it, I wonder if anyone else bothered to look at it.
4. I found another article with the said person in it, you said no.
5. I double checked by sending a pm and you didn't reply.

In the midst of that I have watched others who all seem to have understood your 1st post, put me down, and I have to say I have learned a lot about members character on this forum and how they project it onto those who do not share the same opinion as them.

I think you are accusing me of things I haven't said or done.

I was not speaking of a particular person, I was speaking in general, and gave you a MSM article of the generality of which I was speaking.

Yes others have understood what I am talking about, but you seem not to. It's not my fault if you are under the impression that they are putting you down.

If the article is behind a paywall, I doubt anyone has looked at it.

I haven't receive anything from you to be able to respond.

I'm sorry Frog if you don't get it, but that's not my problem. I've tried and failed it seems.

Let's just forget it at this stage for the sake of all.

 

[Thebottomline]

Not a Freudian slip, just a simple typo

Yes the bolded sentence is also how GJ is being treated here.

 

[sleepinoz]

The foster parents are desperate and being used.

Rude much?

 

[Thebottomline]

I’m watching a programme now about Sian Kingis murder. To see the detectives who worked the case in tears is heartbreaking . They are only human

 

[Thebottomline]

Rude much?

Yeah and probably out of the TOS victims rule

 

[frogwell]

I will drop it after I have my say. You seemed to be very specific about pressure coming from the "new guard" not the old. A senior figure, supposedly above GJ who could bully junior detectives, and when I looked back through posts you referred to a Commanding Officer. It didn't seem to me that you were referring to a general situation and not a prticular person, because I found an individual who may well have fit that description. The Australian allows the public to access one article I think and I was lucky to be able to get it that article but unfortunately you say you can't access it and I can't understand why my message wasn't received but there you go, you can't help bad luck I guess. <modsnip - personalizing>

NoCookies | The Australian

Teacher’s Pet: Homicide chief Scott Cook a rising star of the force

Detective Superintendent Scott Cook. Picture: AAP

• DEBORAH CORNWALL
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• 12:00AM SEPTEMBER 13, 2018

The commander of the NSW Homicide Squad, Detective Superintendent Scott Cook, is one of the rising stars in the state police force, with a long history of getting results.

In just 10 months as head of the squad, he has restructured the way his investigators work, imposing a six-month cut-off to solve cases before deciding whether they should be sent to the coroner.

It is all part of Superintendent Cook’s push to free up homicide detectives to focus on investigations and cut through the 600 unsolved cases on their books — most of them cold cases like the Lyn Dawson disappearance.


By fast-tracking investigations to the coroner’s court, detectives can tap into the court’s powers, such as compelling witnesses to give evidence, while providing victims’ families with answers sooner.