Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #45

[SouthAussie]

No not the whole brief

I would love to know what is in Paul Savage's statement(s), see what made Jubes investigate him so closely.

Would also love to see Geoff Owen's statement, see what is in there. And Frank Abbott's statement, if he ever gave one.

Is there much of a cost in obtaining these statements? Sorry for the question. You obviously don't need to answer it, if you choose not to.

 

[SouthAussie]

Looks like this could be the reason that the inquest has been postponed. imo


BBM
The Australian understands Ms Grahame last week agreed to an application by Michelle Swift, counsel for William’s biological father, for further forensic testing of the image.

Ms Swift’s application was made in open court shortly before the inquest was suddenly adjourned for seven months. The subject matter wasn’t revealed, and Ms Swift refused to comment. However, Ms Grahame responded to the application by saying the matter needed investigation, and Mr Craddock agreed it was important.

NoCookies | The Australian

 

[SouthAussie]

And another thing in the article that is of importance.
Has this article been edited?? I did not see this info in the original article. The original article seemed very unbalanced without this further explanatory info. And I would not have gone into that long explanation of how a date changes when a photo is edited.




BBM
It is not uncommon for there to be confusion about metadata terminology. Phrases such as “date created”, “date modified”, “date digitised” and “date captured” are all commonly used.

As a general rule, a digital camera will record the date and time information in the actual image as EXIF (or “exchangeable image file format”) metadata.

EXIF data mostly travels with the photo when it is exported from camera to computer, printer or USB, and it’s therefore considered the most reliable guide to the time of creation. Accuracy depends, however, on the date and time settings of the camera. A modified or created date will normally refer to the time the image arrived on a computer, or else was edited, or otherwise accessed.

There are several explanations for the different time stamp on the photograph of William: the earlier time may be the right one; the camera may not have been adjusted for local time; the computer may have incorrect settings; or else the mistake may be in the report itself (a product of input error, for example).

NoCookies | The Australian

 

[katydid23]

Looks like this could be the reason that the inquest has been postponed. imo


BBM
The Australian understands Ms Grahame last week agreed to an application by Michelle Swift, counsel for William’s biological father, for further forensic testing of the image.

Ms Swift’s application was made in open court shortly before the inquest was suddenly adjourned for seven months. The subject matter wasn’t revealed, and Ms Swift refused to comment. However, Ms Grahame responded to the application by saying the matter needed investigation, and Mr Craddock agreed it was important.

NoCookies | The Australian

Ok, so the Bio Father is urgently calling into question, the Foster Mother's 'proof of life' picture because of the 2 hour discrepancy?

what about this sighting of William, in the speeding car, with the young woman driving him away?

Is that no longer credible?

 

[SouthAussie]

Ok, so the Bio Father is urgently calling into question, the Foster Mother's 'proof of life' picture because of the 2 hour discrepancy?

what about this sighting of William, in the speeding car, with the young woman driving him away?

Is that no longer credible?

I personally think that the coroner has to entertain all reasonable requests. Cancel out any doubts.

We certainly are aware that the FP (and FACS) have been blamed by the bio parents in the past. "They lost him".

 

[CuriousCritter]

So while we are on time discrepancies about the photo, they should look into the discrepancy of the date the official Where's William Facebook page was created

 

[SouthAussie]

So while we are on time discrepancies about the photo, they should look into the discrepancy of the date the official Where's William Facebook page was created

Why?
Looks like they set that post to be the date of William's 3rd birthday, for whatever reason they decided to do that. It is very possible to change the date of a post. Have you looked at the 'edit history' of the post?

People change the dates of posts to get the post to where they want it to be on their page. I know I have done that.

And regarding the page URL .... the page could have been originally set up under another name, and the page name and URL were changed after William went missing and the official page was established.


Log into Facebook | Facebook this is where you change the link to match your new name. I just did this for group. But it can only be done once
Facebook

 

[sleepinoz]

So while we are on time discrepancies about the photo, they should look into the discrepancy of the date the official Where's William Facebook page was created

You missed that it was posted as a scheduled post and the time for it to be scheduled was typed in incorrectly.

 

[sleepinoz]

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The image of the three-year-old playing on the veranda of his foster grandparents home in Kendall, on the NSW mid-north coast, was taken on the day he disappeared on September 12, 2014.

The photo was circulated as part of the search and was used as crucial 'proof of life' evidence which helped investigators establish a time frame for his disappearance.

However, that timeline has now been thrown into doubt revelations in the photo's metadata that suggest the picture may have been taken earlier.

The image has a 'created time' of 7.39am and a 'corrected time' of 9.37am, a new document from the 2000-page evidence brief obtained by The Australian shows.

Police have now been ordered an urgent probe into the 118 unexplained minutes between the time of the photo and when William vanished.

The 'proof of life' timeframe was based on when the image was taken (9.37am) and when his foster mother called the police (10.57am).

Why the last photo of William Tyrrell in his Spiderman suit could hold the key to solving mystery | Daily Mail Online

I think it's interesting that every other article is quoting their source as 'The Australian".

Are they avoiding action being taken against them?

Were the other reporters not at the Inquest, did they not see this happen?

I'm sure if they did it would have been reported on the day.

 

[Thebottomline]

Looks like this could be the reason that the inquest has been postponed. imo


BBM
The Australian understands Ms Grahame last week agreed to an application by Michelle Swift, counsel for William’s biological father, for further forensic testing of the image.

Ms Swift’s application was made in open court shortly before the inquest was suddenly adjourned for seven months. The subject matter wasn’t revealed, and Ms Swift refused to comment. However, Ms Grahame responded to the application by saying the matter needed investigation, and Mr Craddock agreed it was important.

NoCookies | The Australian

And who have we seen at court previously with him.

 

[stormyseas]

And who have we seen at court previously with him.

Do you mean BGM?

 

[Thebottomline]

Do you mean BGM?

No, the other mouthpiece that’s inserted themselves in with the bio parents.

 

[silverau]

I dont know about you guys but I have an inkling things are progressing amazingly given the time that has passed since William went missing. This is despite the irritation of the inquest being pushed back.

I am actually confident the answers will be revealed, whether from now until just before the inquest resumes. And my gut tells me William is alive and well. Go hard coppers! Bring William home!

 

[bearbear]

i think when gj took over the case he had hoped to go right back to the very beginning and start from scratch but unfortunately the original attending police had bungled any evidence and people who should have been questioned werent, so much lost evidence, why wasnt all the forensic phone, camera etc testing done properly at the very beginning, what else has just slipped through the cracks, what a nightmare, and all gjs hard work in the hands of idiots now hes off the case/force and this ridiculous inquest!
the whole thing is a joke and been handled so badly and with so much secrecy,
wheres william!!!!?

 

[Violet77]

The full account of what has happened with the photo
Questions Raised Over Last Ever Photo Taken Of William Tyrrell

 

[they'll get you]

I dont know about you guys but I have an inkling things are progressing amazingly given the time that has passed since William went missing. This is despite the irritation of the inquest being pushed back.

I am actually confident the answers will be revealed, whether from now until just before the inquest resumes. And my gut tells me William is alive and well. Go hard coppers! Bring William home!

I’m agreeing with you. It’s been a process of elimination and that’s exactly what’s happening.
The issue with the time stamp too must be ‘put to bed’ before the perp is bought in for justice.

 

[Angeline]

i think when gj took over the case he had hoped to go right back to the very beginning and start from scratch but unfortunately the original attending police had bungled any evidence and people who should have been questioned werent, so much lost evidence, why wasnt all the forensic phone, camera etc testing done properly at the very beginning, what else has just slipped through the cracks, what a nightmare, and all gjs hard work in the hands of idiots now hes off the case/force and this ridiculous inquest!
the whole thing is a joke and been handled so badly and with so much secrecy,
wheres william!!!!?

It really does seem like the investigation was bungled from the beginning... what with all the secrecy over William's foster status combined with small town police who were seemingly out of their depth. It must be a relief for William's family to finally get everything laid out on the table.

 

[purpleandgreen]

I think it is important for the coroner to firmly establish proof of life. With no ifs, ands, or buts.
Once that is done, will The Australian report that?

And will people accept it? Hopefully, but unfortunately it seems that no matter what the poor FP do, they'll always be in the firing line & agendas of some, for some unknown & inexplicable reason. IMO. I wonder if they'll (FP) take action against the Social Media trolls.

 

[gregjrichards]

EXCLUSIVE: William Tyrrell vigilante is jailed for his 'crusade' against the missing boy's foster parents - as a magistrate blasts him for acting like the 'avenging angel of justice'

William Tyrrell: Man jailed for stalking missing boy's foster father | Daily Mail Online

This is absolutely disgraceful he should have got more than 34 days in jail.

 

[katydid23]

The last ever photo of William Tyrrell was a crucial piece of evidence, proving the boy had been at his foster grandmother's house before he disappeared. Photo: NSW Police.


I think this is a big 'to do' over nothing. Can't they just take a photo with the same camera now, and see what happens?

And what is the big concern? That it was really taken at 7:30 am? Are they worried the FParents did something to him after 7:30, and pretended he was missing?

I don't think that picture was taken at 7:30 am. I doubt they would all be ready to just be playing on the patio deck that early. I bet that at 7:30, they were just getting up and getting breakfast on the table. JMO

Didn't LE look into this time discrepancy back at the start?