Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #50

[Morrisa]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...ring-behind-closed-doors-20200203-p53x8r.html

Speaking outside court, Mr Jubelin said he would not comment on the delay.

"I always prided myself when I was a police officer in being professional and timely. I don't think I'll say anything more," he said.

 

[drsleuth]

". . . and struggled to find a stapler."

This is farcical.

You do really need to attend court to see how much of a farcical our justice system is at times, not much surprises or shocks me anymore, unfortunately

 

[drsleuth]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...ring-behind-closed-doors-20200203-p53x8r.html

Speaking outside court, Mr Jubelin said he would not comment on the delay.

"I always prided myself when I was a police officer in being professional and timely. I don't think I'll say anything more," he said.

Yep he doesn't like incompetence or wasting of tax papers $'s

 

[drsleuth]

Mr Jubelin's barrister Margaret Cunneen, SC, said she strenuously opposed the prospect of a closed court.

"There must be open justice in this case," Ms Cunneen said. "Surely the application for suppression must be about specific parts of the evidence, not the whole proceeding."

Ms Cunneen said her client "has always indicated to the NSW Police Force the difficulties, the effect that these proceedings would have in derailing the Tyrrell investigation".

"It was not he who put all of the information about the allegations about him out in the public before he was charged," Ms Cunneen said.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...ml?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed

BBM : So who was it I wonder

 

[drsleuth]

Hmmmmmm

The NSW Police Force endeavours to resolve complaints in an efficient and timely manner. The corporate standard is to have 70% of complaints completed within set timeframes of 45 days for matters resolved informally and 90 days for matters requiring criminal or non-criminal investigations. We continue to focus on the release of complaint information in accordance with procedural fairness and government policy. Our management processes emphasise remedial approaches to managing the conduct of police officers where appropriate.

https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/658513/NSWPF_2018-19_Annual_Report.pdf

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Typical reasons are that witnesses have to travel from the country (or from interstate or overseas), expert witnesses need to be called, or one of the parties or witnesses has pressing health problems.

bbm

 

[Wexford]

It doesn't seem the recording are much to hide...

There has to be something. Or this is not much of a case. He claims he has a 'lawful right and an operational need' and is trying to prove that in court. Surely everything is resting on there being something significant in those tapes to prove why it was necessary to record PS?

 

[Deleted member 161976]

Lia Harris on Twitter
Gary Jubelin’s criminal hearing has resumed, with the NSW Police Comissioner’s legal team making an application to hear the majority of the evidence in a closed court. A lawyer for the media is here and it’s expected Jubelin’s defence team will also oppose it.

 

[Wexford]

BBM : So who was it I wonder

Someone who knows how to use the media to full advantage???

 

[stormbird]

Does anyone here know how to embed tweets, please? I haven't been able to find a how-to or work it out.

There are a few tweets by ABC court reporter, Jamie McKinnell @jamie86, explaining what was going on when the court was closed.

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:

Former detective Gary Jubelin hearing has resumed re allegations of illegal recordings in William Tyrrell investigation. The Police Commissioner's lawyer has made a broad application under the Court Suppression and Non-publication act

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:
https://mobile.twitter.com/jamie86/status/1224470474807103489

Robin Bhalla, for the commissioner, has tendered supporting material including a "confidential annexure" which sets out "the substance of the information that is sought to be protected". It's so sensitive that not even the media lawyer opposing the move is allowed access.

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:

This is all because there's so much overlap between evidence in the police investigation of Tyrrell/inquest and Mr Jubelin's matter.

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:

The court's been closed while the magistrate hears arguments about the police application for suppression. Magistrate Ross Hudson assures the gallery observers will be allowed back in as soon as possible and hopefully for some of the application process.

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:

Before the court was closed, Mr Bhalla said if the magistrate wants to discuss the confidential material, the "usual approach" is a full closure of the court - literally only the magistrate and police lawyers - to "preserve the utility of the orders the commissioner is seeking".

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:

Looks like this is how happening - all other parties besides the police commissioner's team have left the court.

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:

We're back in. In open court we've not heard hints at what was discussed, with Mr Bhalla making reference to a "highly specific strategy employed by police".

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:

Mr Bhalla argues the orders need to be made due to the public interest in a successful resolution of the Tyrrell investigation and inquest. He says it's "deeply unfortunate" the matters are clashing.

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:

"The commissioner doesn't take lightly trespassing on the principle of open justice," Mr Bhalla says.

 

[stormbird]

Tweet by Jamie McKinnell @jamie86:

Margaret Cunneen SC, for Mr Jubelin, argues if police are granted the orders they seek it will always be intimated that Mr Jubelin's alleged failures were the reason for the failure of the Tyrrell investigation. He would be "set up as a scapegoat".