Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #50

[Thebottomline]

Lia Harris
Jubelin tells officers the charges are a “witch-hunt” by NSW Police “to justify their actions against me”. He said “I’ve never seen a matter handled the way this has been handled”

So pleased he (GJ) is allowed to get it out there , so far it does seem like a witch hunt and some some big egos.

 

[sosocurious]

So pleased he (GJ) is allowed to get it out there , so far it does seem like a witch hunt and some some big egos.

Can't wait until he takes the stand. Thus, far we have only heard the recordings of when he was being investigated for misconduct ... blah, blah

 

[Thebottomline]

Can't wait until he takes the stand. Thus, far we have only heard the recordings of when he was being investigated for misconduct ... blah, blah

Yes definitely, how long is this scheduled to run for ?

 

[peekinandy]

Yes definitely, how long is this scheduled to run for ?

last Friday

or are you talking of his testimony?

 

[sosocurious]

last Friday

Yes we are in overtime at the moment.

 

[Thebottomline]

last Friday

or are you talking of his testimony?

Yes, thanks. So he is expected to take the stand soon ? Sorry bit out of the court process loop.

 

[k-mac]

in my opinion i think its important to keep an open mind too though, we only have the select minimum info fed to us from msm which we all decipher in our own ways and dont have to or shouldnt just accept anything without question, no matter who says it, we all get gut reactions to certain people which sways our opinions rightly or wrongly and my gut reaction to ps is very different to that of bs, but i dont think either of these men are involved
this case was stuffed up from the start and i feel very sorry for gj not being able to follow through

agree bear totally
POI need full circle perspective and dissection.
less "perhaps and maybes" though for me.
moo

 

[drsleuth]

It's absolutely appalling the way this has been handled, they've ruined a very dedicated cops career, one who was so invested in finding out what happened to William..............I'm truly disgusted

 

[Thebottomline]

It's absolutely appalling the way this has been handled, they've ruined a very dedicated cops career, one who was so invested in finding out what happened to William..............I'm truly disgusted

I agree Dr. Can only imagine the families feelings.

 

[peekinandy]

Heres the next section & the last below it - that may be relevant BBM - apologies if too much!

Surveillance Devices Act 2007 No 64
Current version for 22 November 2019 to date (accessed 10 February 2020 at 15:03)
Part 3 Division 4 Section 35

35 Eligible Judge may approve emergency use of powers
(1) After considering an application for approval in respect of the use of a surveillance device without a warrant in an emergency under section 31, the eligible Judge may approve the application if satisfied that there are reasonable grounds to suspect or believe that—
(a) there was a threat of serious violence to a person or substantial damage to property or of the commission of a serious narcotics offence, and
(b) using a surveillance device may have helped reduce the threat, and
(c) it was not practicable in the circumstances to apply for a surveillance device warrant.
(2) After considering an application for approval in respect of an emergency authorisation given under section 32, the eligible Judge may approve the application if satisfied that—
(a) use of the surveillance device in this jurisdiction was authorised under a law of this jurisdiction, in connection with an investigation into a relevant offence, and
(b) there were reasonable grounds to suspect or believe that—
(i) there was a risk of loss of evidence, and
(ii) using the surveillance device in a participating jurisdiction may have helped reduce the risk, and
(c) it was not practicable in the circumstances to apply for a surveillance device warrant.
(3) If the application under section 33 is accompanied by an application for a surveillance device warrant, the application for the warrant may be determined at the same time as the application for approval but is to be determined in accordance with Division 2.(4) If the eligible Judge does not approve an application under this section, the Judge may—
(a) order that the use of the surveillance device cease, and
(b) authorise, subject to any conditions the eligible Judge thinks fit, the retrieval of the surveillance device.
(5) In any case, the eligible Judge may order that any information obtained from or relating to the exercise of powers without a warrant or under the emergency authorisation, or any record of that information, be dealt with in the way specified in the order.

also:
Surveillance Devices Act 2007 No 64
Current version for 22 November 2019 to date (accessed 10 February 2020 at 15:03)
Part 3 Division 4 Section 36

36 Admissibility of evidence
If the exercise of powers without a warrant in an emergency or under an emergency authorisation is approved under section 35, evidence obtained because of the exercise of those powers is not inadmissible in any proceeding merely because the evidence was obtained before the approval.

 

[Thebottomline]

Would the lack of fresh tweets indicate court closed to public atm

 

[drsleuth]

William Tyrrell cop says taping was necessary because of 'suicide possibility'

"I thought it was necessary in the circumstances," the 57-year-old Jubelin told the internal police investigators.
"When you say surreptitiously, it's like it's inappropriate. I don't think it was inappropriate.
"There was nothing I tried to hide or secrete. I think I had a reasonable lawful excuse."
Jubelin is accused of recording person of interest Paul Savage in November 2017, twice in May 2018 and again in December 2018.

 

[drsleuth]

Would the lack of fresh tweets indicate court closed to public atm

Probably open, but under suppression / NPO orders??

 

[drsleuth]

Probably open, but under suppression / NPO orders??

If so, the orders may be lifted after evidence is heard, that happens sometimes IMO

 

[sosocurious]

Mr Jubelin said the strike force held a briefing that day to discuss which information would be provided to a coronial inquest. Whenever he mentioned Mr Savage, he said, he felt the other officer "tense up" and eventually Mr Lambert was in "a very agitated state".

The court previously heard Mr Lambert did not believe Mr Savage was responsible for William's disappearance.

Mr Jubelin said he asked the rest of the strike force to leave the room after Mr Lambert went from "0 to 10" and became "very angry".


"I said 'Craig, you've been running this investigation for three years, give me a person of interest'," Mr Jubelin said.

He said Mr Lambert then stormed out of the room and other officers reported seeing him throw his phone and keys and say "f--- it, I'm out".

Mr Jubelin said Mr Lambert, a kickboxing champion and former sparring partner, then came towards him "spitting venom" and wanting to fight. Mr Jubelin threw his belongings down and stood his ground, he said.

“He had lost the plot," Mr Jubelin said. "It was just ranting and ravings ... I believe this job broke him."

Mr Jubelin later assumed the role of officer in charge when Mr Lambert went on sick leave.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...ated-argument-court-told-20200210-p53zcu.html

 

[sosocurious]

Detective Senior Constable Louise Rodden, who attended the meeting in July 2018, took two pages of detailed notes that afternoon. She said Mr Lambert disagreed with a course of action posed by Mr Jubelin, then "a heated argument started" which could still be heard after she left the room.

Senior Constable Rodden said Mr Lambert later stormed into the homicide office saying "you can have it, I'm going home" before he encountered Mr Jubelin in the hallway.

She said she saw Detective Chief Inspector Grant Taylor, another homicide squad officer, separating Mr Lambert and Mr Jubelin.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...ated-argument-court-told-20200210-p53zcu.html

 

[drsleuth]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...ated-argument-court-told-20200210-p53zcu.html

Mr Jubelin said Mr Lambert, a kickboxing champion and former sparring partner, then came towards him "spitting venom" and wanting to fight. Mr Jubelin threw his belongings down and stood his ground, he said.

“He had lost the plot," Mr Jubelin said. "It was just ranting and ravings ... I believe this job broke him."

Mr Jubelin later assumed the role of officer in charge when Mr Lambert went on sick leave.

He described the complaint against him, which was initially handled internally, as "vexatious" and said he felt "quite comfortable" with recording the conversation with Mr Savage.

"The primary focus of when I put my phone to record was to protect my lawful interest," Mr Jubelin said.

 

[drsleuth]

Kelly Fedor
Gary #Jubelin’s hearing heats up... literally. I think someone has forgotten to turn the air con on.

 

[bearbear]

agree bear totally
POI need full circle perspective and dissection.
less "perhaps and maybes" though for me.
moo

haha! me too

 

[drsleuth]

Lia Harris
The court heard the decision to charge Jubelin over the recordings was made by Assistant Commisisoner Michael Willing, who was Jubelin’s former boss at the Homicide Squad.