Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #56

[Loxoli]

Men accused of sexually abusing children from Kendall the same town William Tyrrell disappeared from | Daily Mail Online

Two accused paedophiles from the town where William Tyrrell vanished allegedly raped multiple children as young as ONE - as they're hit with 250 fresh charges

I still think about the two cars that were in the yard in 2010 of the residence where the accused paedophiles lived at the time of their arrest. I don’t think I have the screenshots saved, but we discussed this in thread 54. Post #1113 by SA on page 56 has some shots, and my post #1143 on page 58 has a shot. I still think they look eerily similar to the cars described by Ronald Chapman..

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I still think about the two cars that were in the yard in 2010 of the residence where the accused paedophiles lived at the time of their arrest. I don’t think I have the screenshots saved, but we discussed this in thread 54. Post #1113 by SA on page 56 has some shots, and my post #1143 on page 58 has a shot. I still think they look eerily similar to the cars described by Ronald Chapman..

Repeating your pic, maybe, it would still help. Worth some thoughts in any case!

 

[Loxoli]

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Repeating your pic, maybe, it would still help. Worth some thoughts in any case!

Thank you! May be nothing, but I just get a funny feeling about those cars.

 

[madoodi]

I still think about the two cars that were in the yard in 2010 of the residence where the accused paedophiles lived at the time of their arrest. I don’t think I have the screenshots saved, but we discussed this in thread 54. Post #1113 by SA on page 56 has some shots, and my post #1143 on page 58 has a shot. I still think they look eerily similar to the cars described by Ronald Chapman..

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Repeating your pic, maybe, it would still help. Worth some thoughts in any case!

Definitely see your point Loxoli after seeing the pic that FromGermany posted.
I truly wonder if RC really saw what he says he saw...

IMO

 

[Loxoli]

Definitely see your point Loxoli after seeing the pic that FromGermany posted.
I truly wonder if RC really saw what he says he saw...

IMO

When I’m on my computer later I will also find and repost the screenshots SA got. They show a different angle and more detail of the 4wd.

I’ve just looked at the blurred pictures of these two being arrested and I think it’s within the realm of possibility that one of them could look like a plump woman if you only saw a glimpse driving by, IMO. They could have had a female accomplice also.

This article is paywalled but the image I’m taking about is viewable on Google images. Category: <span> </span> | The Courier Mail

I googled ‘Kendall paedophile arrest courier mail’ and it is the top two images.

ETA just confirmed that the one I’m talking about is Timothy Doyle.

 

[purpleandgreen]

This one? From Google images.

 

[Loxoli]

This one? From Google images.

Not that one. The other one with orange/blonde hair. I’ll screenshot it when I get on the computer soon.

 

[Loxoli]

This is the link: Category: <span> </span> | The Courier Mail

 

[purpleandgreen]

This is the link: Category: <span> </span> | The Courier Mail

Oh, I had the wrong one! Of well, I had a 50% chance!

 

[Loxoli]

Oh, I had the wrong one! Of well, I had a 50% chance!

Not to worry! Yes, you were close

What do you think? Could have looked like a plump blonde female in his teens? I feel so silly following this lead but I feel like I need to find something that confirms they weren't connected..

 

[kiwi50]

Not to worry! Yes, you were close

What do you think? Could have looked like a plump blonde female in his teens? I feel so silly following this lead but I feel like I need to find something that confirms they weren't connected..

He certainly had many different looks, if he had his makeup on, especially so.

 

[Loxoli]

The two close-ups of the 4wd are from SA's post in thread #54.


This article was paraphrased by sosocurious in thread #44 post #1085:

The three- or four-year-old boy had his hands and face pressed up to the glass in the fawn-coloured vehicle's back seat, he said. Car in screenshots doesn't appear fawn, maybe when dirty though?

Mr Chapman realised the significance of what he had seen when he saw a news story about William's disappearance that evening, he said.

"I recognised the boy's face and features," he said...........................

Mr Chapman said the woman, whom he described as fair, in her late 20s or 30s and "plumpish", was driving too fast. Unlikely, but possibly could fit the description of a 14 year old Timothy Doyle. A teen could have been chosen to be the one to abduct William, because it would be more likely he would trust a teen? TD wouldn't have had a license, but not impossible that he could drive. Could have also been a female accomplice.

"She was driving with speed; I couldn't estimate how fast, and almost lost control. She came around the corner at a wide angle." Inexperienced or unlicensed driver?

Shortly after the four-wheel-drive sped past, another car going too quickly came around the corner from Batar Creek Road, he said.

"He cut the corner and was on the wrong side when he came around the corner, really, really accelerating."

The iridescent blue six-cylinder car was being driven by a man, he said, but Mr Chapman could not see any identifying characteristics because of the window tint. Fits description of the blue car in the screenshot, IMO. Could have appeared more iridescent to RC because it was noted that the sun was blcoking his view of the driver?

https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-r...driven-away-inquest-told-20190828-p52lj5.html


Lia Harris tweet:
Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 42s42 seconds ago

He told he court it was an “old box type four wheel drive” being driven by a woman “in her late 20s to late 30s, very fair complexion... blonde hair combed up with a bow on top of her head”. @10NewsFirst @10Daily

I have bolded all the similarities I can see between the cars and the relevant description of the drivers that I find interesting. I have written my thoughts in red. I do think it is unlikely that TD was the woman driving, but I do think that the cars could be a solid lead. I would love to see some evidence that disproves their connection to William's case.

 

[bearbear]

We discussed this a little further back. Some of us think it is the large bloke with dead animals hanging in the trees, that had a shrine of Jubes and William in his bedroom, and lives on Batar Creek Road. House overgrown by the forest. There are some pics a little further back of an overgrown house in the forest on Batar Creek Road. The property goes all the way up to #35 and a little past it.

oh, ok yes i do remember that discussion, very creepy, sounds like theres a whole quiet dark network in the area

 

[SouthAussie]

The youngest one, who it says is now 21, I think was 20 when arrested, has been charged with sexual intercourse of a one year old, it’s not a huge leap for me to wonder what he was up to at 14 especially if he had an older accomplice.

They have definitely had more charges added than the original charges then.

From the initial arrest:
Ms Gale said the children were aged between four and seven.

AFP Assistant Commissioner for the Australian Centre to Counter Child Exploitation (ACCCE), Lesa Gale, refused to comment on the Tyrrell investigation at a press conference today, referring questions to NSW Police.

‘We are coming for you’: AFP’s message to sex offenders

 

[interested64]

Thank you! May be nothing, but I just get a funny feeling about those cars.

very similar

 

[Deleted member 102539]

The youngest one, who it says is now 21, I think was 20 when arrested, has been charged with sexual intercourse of a one year old, it’s not a huge leap for me to wonder what he was up to at 14 especially if he had an older accomplice.

The accomplice may have been another one, even older, than the one, who got arrested together with TD.

 

[madoodi]

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The two close-ups of the 4wd are from SA's post in thread #54.


This article was paraphrased by sosocurious in thread #44 post #1085:

The three- or four-year-old boy had his hands and face pressed up to the glass in the fawn-coloured vehicle's back seat, he said. Car in screenshots doesn't appear fawn, maybe when dirty though?

Mr Chapman realised the significance of what he had seen when he saw a news story about William's disappearance that evening, he said.

"I recognised the boy's face and features," he said...........................

Mr Chapman said the woman, whom he described as fair, in her late 20s or 30s and "plumpish", was driving too fast. Unlikely, but possibly could fit the description of a 14 year old Timothy Doyle. A teen could have been chosen to be the one to abduct William, because it would be more likely he would trust a teen? TD wouldn't have had a license, but not impossible that he could drive. Could have also been a female accomplice.

"She was driving with speed; I couldn't estimate how fast, and almost lost control. She came around the corner at a wide angle." Inexperienced or unlicensed driver?

Shortly after the four-wheel-drive sped past, another car going too quickly came around the corner from Batar Creek Road, he said.

"He cut the corner and was on the wrong side when he came around the corner, really, really accelerating."

The iridescent blue six-cylinder car was being driven by a man, he said, but Mr Chapman could not see any identifying characteristics because of the window tint. Fits description of the blue car in the screenshot, IMO. Could have appeared more iridescent to RC because it was noted that the sun was blcoking his view of the driver?

https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-r...driven-away-inquest-told-20190828-p52lj5.html


Lia Harris tweet:
Lia Harris‏Verified account @LiaJHarris 42s42 seconds ago

He told he court it was an “old box type four wheel drive” being driven by a woman “in her late 20s to late 30s, very fair complexion... blonde hair combed up with a bow on top of her head”. @10NewsFirst @10Daily

I have bolded all the similarities I can see between the cars and the relevant description of the drivers that I find interesting. I have written my thoughts in red. I do think it is unlikely that TD was the woman driving, but I do think that the cars could be a solid lead. I would love to see some evidence that disproves their connection to William's case.

Very suspicious or coincidental that these 2 cars pictured could resemble the 2 cars RC said he saw driving that day. The guys arrested would have been very young at the time but I have heard of very young offenders of such horrid things before.

IMO

 

[Loxoli]

Very suspicious or coincidental that these 2 cars pictured could resemble the 2 cars RC said he saw driving that day. The guys arrested would have been very young at the time but I have heard of very young offenders of such horrid things before.

IMO

I agree. I don’t really believe that these guys suddenly started committing horrid crimes like these only a few years ago. Their offending was prolific and it seems as though the investigators are trying to determine the extent of it. Also, these boys are part of a much larger network and I suspect that investigators have only just started to scratch the surface on who was involved and who the victims are.

To me, it doesn’t look like investigators have any less reason to suspect these guys than FA. They don’t seem to have any evidence to put FA in the vicinity of the crime. He made strange remarks about William’s case, but I am worried that he could be a scapegoat. It looks as though the offending of TD and SG was more abhorrent than FA, so I really hope that investigators are putting significant resources towards ruling this network out of William’s disappearance. After hearing about the shoddy recent investigation though, I am very concerned that not enough is being done for little William

I would like to know where TD and SG found their victims, how on Earth did they commit all these their crimes undetected by the parents and families of the children and where are those children are now. It seems like an extremely organised and operational ring, so is there a chance that if these people took William, did he live longer than 12/9/14, and could there be any possibility that he is still alive today? Very sad and confronting thoughts, but what if? There should be every available police resource put towards disproving this lead, but sadly, I don’t think there is

 

[Loxoli]

This is the link: Category: <span> </span> | The Courier Mail

I’ve made a mistake. This one, Timothy Doyle, is actually the older offender and is 26 years old. So he legally could have been driving the boxy 4wd.

 

[SouthAussie]

I agree. I don’t really believe that these guys suddenly started committing horrid crimes like these only a few years ago. Their offending was prolific and it seems as though the investigators are trying to determine the extent of it. Also, these boys are part of a much larger network and I suspect that investigators have only just started to scratch the surface on who was involved and who the victims are.

To me, it doesn’t look like investigators have any less reason to suspect these guys than FA. They don’t seem to have any evidence to put FA in the vicinity of the crime. He made strange remarks about William’s case, but I am worried that he could be a scapegoat. It looks as though the offending of TD and SG was more abhorrent than FA, so I really hope that investigators are putting significant resources towards ruling this network out of William’s disappearance. After hearing about the shoddy recent investigation though, I am very concerned that not enough is being done for little William

I would like to know where TD and SG found their victims, how on Earth did they commit all these their crimes undetected by the parents and families of the children and where are those children are now. It seems like an extremely organised and operational ring, so is there a chance that if these people took William, did he live longer than 12/9/14, and could there be any possibility that he is still alive today? Very sad and confronting thoughts, but what if? There should be every available police resource put towards disproving this lead, but sadly, I don’t think there is

Quite honestly, these two perps could have been victims themselves during their very young lives.
It takes something abhorent and evil to be able to sexually abuse babies and young children ... any children. Then to film and potentially make money from it as well.
If they were also victims at some stage, it could make them think it was 'nothing' to victimise others when they were at an even younger age than in 2017. This abhorent behaviour could have been going on for years and escalating further and further.

IMO