Australian couple abandon surrogate twin with Down's syndrome in Thailand

[PrimeSuspect]

Bio dad met his Chinese wife through a dating agency in 2004, and went to China to meet and marry her. I wonder how old she was, and he was?

And I wonder why Thailand, infamous for its child sex trade, was chosen as the country to find a surrogate mother when the Chinese wife could perhaps have easily arranged for the pregnancy to take place in China, where the abortion issues would have been unlikely to arise? Perhaps bio Dad knew Thailand well?

In Australia we do criminal checks for anyone undertaking IVF to screen out pedophiles.

The baby girl should be taken away from these parents as this man found a loop hole of how to obtain his own child without the authorities knowing. This man has lied about baby Gammy, he is a liar as all pedophiles are!! :moo:

 

[LaborDayRN]

In Australia we do criminal checks for anyone undertaking IVF to screen out pedophiles.

The baby girl should be taken away from these parents as this man found a loop hole of how to obtain his own child without the authorities knowing. This man has lied about baby Gammy, he is a liar as all pedophiles are!! :moo:

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Linda7NJ]

'The unnamed friend of the couple says the parents are legally unable to speak..'

'...they wanted to bring Gammy home to Australia, but were told by doctors that he was too unwell.'

BBM
'The report comes as neighbours rally around the parents, describing them as “very nice, decent people”.'

BBM
'Court documents show that the man previously abused at least three girls under the age of 13.
He was jailed in the late 1990s for sexually molesting two girls under the age of 10 and was sentenced to three years behind bars.
While serving time for that crime, he was charged with six counts of indecently dealing with a child under the age of 13 and was convicted and sentenced again.'

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...ow-break-silence/story-fnet08xa-1227013406177

Great.
So he bought his own personal little girl....

 

[sorrell skye]

When a woman takes money to be a surrogate, then technically she, and the baby, are commodities. They are something that someone is purchasing (a womb and a child). IMO, it's deeply problematic that poor women are being used this way.

A human being is not a commodity.

A baby is not a product to be bought, sold, or traded (as material goods are), or to be abandoned as worthless if they don't meet or exceed the profit margin. A baby is not merchandise and a woman's womb is not a manufacturing plant.

It's not only "problematic" that destitute women in impoverished countries are being exploited this way - it's a heinous travesty. Thank goodness the Thai government has finally taken steps to outlaw the corrupt surrogacy practices in Thailand, but I can't help but believe that if little Gammy's case hadn't received international media attention, they would have continued to turn a blind eye. I don't believe for a single second the Thai government was unaware of what was going on.

As far as I'm concerned, with the bio-father's criminal history, this case is another form of human trafficking. I fear for Gammy's sister's safety.

It's despicable that Gammy's biological parents seem to regard him as nothing more than a defective object. A truly loving parent would not have abandoned their baby, regardless of his medical condition or disability.

 

[they'll get you]

This is so disturbing on so many levels... I can't even form any sort of comment.....

We certainly know how much bio Dad likes little girls now......

BBM: And so................they left the baby BOY and brought home the baby GIRL. :gaah:

In Australia we do criminal checks for anyone undertaking IVF to screen out pedophiles.

The baby girl should be taken away from these parents as this man found a loop hole of how to obtain his own child without the authorities knowing. This man has lied about baby Gammy, he is a liar as all pedophiles are!! :moo:

Great.
So he bought his own personal little girl....

This is dark, very sad and sick.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Good news .. Western Australian authorities looking into the placement of Gammy's twin sister. They'll be doing an assessment. Funny how things go, the abandonment of Gammy has helped his sister too. They've also named them.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Good news .. Western Australian authorities looking into the placement of Gammy's twin sister. They'll be doing an assessment. Funny how things go, the abandonment of Gammy has helped his sister too. They've also named them.

Thanks for the update Mrs G! It is rather strange how this all worked out. Perhaps both of these little ones will be saved!

 

[Amee]

Baby Gammy: Australian father has child sex convictions; Thai mum shocked; child protection authorities investigate

The Thai surrogate mother of Baby Gammy says she is shocked to learn that the child's biological father is a convicted paedophile.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-05/baby-gammy-father-has-sex-offence-conviction/5649966

 

[BatWoman]

Wow, here i was, jaded, wondering if it was just another fundraising story, and look at the directions it's taken! So much wrong. How the Aussie family contrasts with the Thai family.

 

[Amee]

Gammy out of danger after doctors thought he would die

Gammy’s little head bobs around, his big eyes searching for for the source of every noise in a sterile hospital ward overlooking the waterfront.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/gamm...-would-die-20140805-100riw.html#ixzz39VoBKhLD

 

[fruity]

I wonder what the bio parents would have done if the bio mother had given birth. Would they have left him at the hospital?

 

[zwiebel]

Tiny little paragraph here that seems like really good news! I didn't know people could live without repairs to holes-in-the-heart.

'Doctors have also told her Gammy will not need life-saving surgery for a hole in the heart and probably will be able to go home in a couple of days. “Thank-you,” she says in Thai.'

http://www.smh.com.au/national/gamm...-would-die-20140805-100riw.html#ixzz39VsptOQr

 

[zwiebel]

This is the hospital where Gammy's now being treated. It has a separate childrens clinic, and a specialist genetic and Down's Syndrome clinic. It seems like the funds that have been raised are being spent to get him the best treatment possible.

http://www.samitivejhospitals.com/children_medicalservice/en

 

[zwiebel]

'....Ms Pattharamon then said she wanted to keep Gammy and give him a proper Thai funeral.
The couple became embroiled in a legal battle to bring home the female twin. The 21-year-old surrogate mother finally agreed to hand the baby girl over, but the couple was terrified she could change her mind.
“All this happened when Thailand was in a military lockdown and very difficult to get around,” the friend (of the Farnells) said.'

'Mr and Mrs Farnell spent two months in Thailand and extended their visas but due to military unrest said they had no option but to leave without Gammy.'

'David Farnell is a well-known Bunbury electrician. He has three grown-up children, and is believed to have married his second wife Wendy Li in China in 2004'

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/gamm...-the-story-20140805-100ngq.html#ixzz39VwuCEJV

 

[Amee]

Tiny little paragraph here that seems like really good news! I didn't know people could live without repairs to holes-in-the-heart.

'Doctors have also told her Gammy will not need life-saving surgery for a hole in the heart and probably will be able to go home in a couple of days. “Thank-you,” she says in Thai.'

http://www.smh.com.au/national/gamm...-would-die-20140805-100riw.html#ixzz39VsptOQr

I was born with a hole in my heart. Mine closed over without surgery.
47 years still going strong

 

[Amee]

Gammy’s surrogate mum faces charges as Australian parents break silence

THAI medical authorities are threatening to take legal action against a 21-year old surrogate Thai woman at the centre of global debate over the alleged abandoning of a Down syndrome baby by an Australian couple.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/lifes...ts-break-silence/story-fnihp1e3-1227013406177

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...ts-break-silence/story-fnet08xa-1227013406177

 

[zwiebel]

Good news .. Western Australian authorities looking into the placement of Gammy's twin sister. They'll be doing an assessment. Funny how things go, the abandonment of Gammy has helped his sister too. They've also named them.

Just jumping off your post, Mrs G, do you think the last sentence I've bolded may be a mistake by the writer, and is meant to read: 'Gammy's sister'?

'West Australian child protection services have been called in by police to investigate the "suitability" of the Australian biological father of baby Gammy following the public disclosure of sex offences against children.'

A WA Department of Child Protection and Family Support spokesman told Fairfax Media it was contacted by police on Monday night to examine the circumstances of the family..'

BBM
'The department confirmed this afternoon it had commenced an assessment of the safety and wellbeing of Gammy.'

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/g...evelations-20140805-100kvu.html#ixzz39VymqiVz

 

[Amee]

WA's Department for Child Protection says it is assessing the "safety and wellbeing" of the baby girl in Australia.

For Gammy's sister, it will be up to West Australian child protection authorities to decide whether she stays with her Australian parents.

"If they think there is a risk to this child, they will take action," Mr Page said.

"If they don't think there is a risk to this child, they won't."

Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop has told 7.30 that the revelations "are of course of deep concern".

"The very tragic nature of this case raises a whole raft of issues that must be dealt with at a state and federal level" as well as through working with Thai authorities, she added.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-05/baby-gammy-father-has-sex-offence-conviction/5649966

 

[zwiebel]

Gammy’s surrogate mum faces charges as Australian parents break silence

THAI medical authorities are threatening to take legal action against a 21-year old surrogate Thai woman at the centre of global debate over the alleged abandoning of a Down syndrome baby by an Australian couple.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/lifes...ts-break-silence/story-fnihp1e3-1227013406177

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...ts-break-silence/story-fnet08xa-1227013406177

She's already been told by Thai authorities to stop talking to media, now it sounds like they are going to throw this 21 year-old under the bus, to deflect attention from the fact that Thai authorities have been letting this surrogacy trade go on unmonitored for years.....I hope Gammy's money is protected, otherwise they may hand out a big fine, in my opinion.

 

[Amee]

There is no requirement in Thailand requiring background checks on parents seeking a surrogate mother.

But neither is there in most Australian states, which only permit unpaid surrogacy arrangements within Australia.

"Victoria requires a criminal check and child safety check to be undertaken," lawyer Stephen Page said.

"It's not mandatory in other places but what is required in other states is you must have judicial oversight.

"At the end of the day, you must have a judge approve the surrogacy arrangement as being in the best interests of the child."

It is illegal for residents of NSW, Queensland and the ACT to pay an overseas surrogate.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-05/baby-gammy-father-has-sex-offence-conviction/5649966