GUILTY Austria - Thomas Plamberger leaves gf, Kerstin Gurtner to freeze to death on Austria's tallest mountain - charged with manslaughter - Jan.19/2025

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I shall keep an eye on scientific articles. What is the thrill of doing such things?

Is it a thrill? It's probably convenience.

Vast vast VAST majority of husbands and fathers who report their wives or kids missing are scared victims of same event/accident/abduction/murder that stopped the wife or kid from coming back home.
Yet as you read about disappearances and solved cases you learn that's pretty popular scenario that murderers were the ones who either reported wife/girlfriend/child/family as missing OR hasnt reported it officially to cops but sold the bulletproof story to concerned friends and other family members that:
a) they left home middle of the night,
b) "she ran away with a sailor/biker",
c) they have no idea what could possibly happen.

Women occasionally do that too, but it seems to be like 20 to 50 TIMES rarer.
It happens often enough that the smartest, most convenient and best for investigation is to focus on family and close ones first - to rule them out or in and dont waste money on big suspect hunts, cause it happens that often thats indeed a husband/father/boyfriend/other male close to the victim that is responsible.

And the reason WHY they do it is obvious. Cause that gives them the best chance of getting away with it.

Its even easier when victim is into climbing, hiking, sailing, mushroom picking, exploring and whatever other activity that takes place in secluded areas or/and involves a lot of risk if all safety measures arent followed or even if they are.
Everybody knows that accidents happen. This works as yet another shield.

Same thing with suicides. Back in the day, with much less technology and knowledge available it was next to impossible to prove that what looked like suicide wasnt really that. As it became possible, as more dedicated investigators with bit of time focused on cases like that. And they discovered that not every time when it looked like suicide it really was.

Yet we are still in some sort of strange denial about sketchy tragedies that happened outdoors.

 

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And hopefully if the prosecution's appeal is argued in full, they do a more thorough job at dissecting those 4 web cams.

They already dissected this too much with I cant get what reason.
Why they gave him a list of 9 (which is not enough for my judgement but whatever) of offences and went through every single one like they were not connected.

How starting too late is a crime? It's freaking not.
It's not forbidden, its not dangerous by itself. You can start a hike in Grossglockner direction at whatever time, in any weather on any day of the year, then stay at the hut overnight or get to the glacier, take some pics, turn back and go home.
Even doing actual climb - as long as you know what youre doing, what youre dealing with and have the gear or if you have absolutely no clue how to climb, dont have a gear or an idea what a climb like that actually means - its not a crime, by any stretch. The latter may and probably should guarantee you a decent fine, forced educational course and the rescue bill if rescue operation will be necessary (unless you have great insurance).

Like literally each of these 9 offences separately:

• Starting the climb too late
• Inadequate planning/preparation
• Allowing unsuitable equipment
• Failing to turn around
• Failure to use emergency gear
• Leaving the partner alone
• Failing to properly signal for rescue
• Negligent communication/Failure to call for help
• Breach of Duty of Care

Could be easily explained by:

• too much confidence,
• poor judgement,
• hoping for the best,
• tunnel vision,
• shock & stress,
• bad decision,
• confusion,
• loud wind,
• twisted sense of equality

But as I said about 20 times before and I will say it 21th time: one, two or three of these can no ill will, just some (strange or not even necessarily strange) factors happen, and it could still end up as perfectly fine climb. None of these could be at play and they could both end up dead cause of avalanche. Or single small mistake could turn into disaster.

It shouldnt matter at all.
The totality of it should matter. If divided into 9 elements, then each element in context of the fateful events and what preceded and followed them. Not separately.

That separation actually makes me understand "his" defenders and concerned climbers.
As in my opinion there is absolutely no way that anyone who lacks bad intentions could get even remotely close to what the accused did. No matter the experience, no matter what.
But if taken apart like that? Looked at as separate offenses? Barely anyone could end up not negligent in some aspects, especially if someone really wanted to make them look like that even during perfectly safe climbs as nothing goes exactly-perfect in every aspect of it. Then imagination can go wild and create all sorts of crazy scenarios in which someone gets vilified despite of doing only what they deemed as best, safest and most reasonable option.

There is a reason why its easy to create a scenario where someone no ill will but some odd-or-not-so-odd factors ends up
a) starting climb oddly late, missing some rather important piece of gear and failing to do something they havent even thought of doing...
b) panicking after companion gets injured and making a bunch of bad choices...
c) making wrong choices cause relying on wrong assumptions
and the reason is: cause that may happen. That happens sometimes. No ill will, excesssive stupidity, recklesness, lack of knowledge, lack of experience required. It still can happen in unfortunate circumstances.

Not so easy to come up with something that would be as elaborately, consistently, multi level "negligent" as the accused story is.

Upon appeal, could the prosecution upgrade TP's charge to murder???

Of course they could but they wont.
Apparently they are too concerned with how the trial and sentencing is gonna look in the eyes of people who rely on coverage that makes him look like a bad boyfriend and poor climber.