AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #7

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  • #241
Just to get everyone up to speed,

Her missing persons page mentioned Friday something about needing clearance from Lab in NM to do some sort of searching technique (we were thinking aerial GPR/thermo graph readers)...

So this is why I started searching for found people in New Mexico - because of the missing persons page bringing up the state exactly 1 week after (aug 10) they posted they had promising leads (aug 3).

Wow this girl jumped from a semi?! Bless her! So brave!!!!!!!!!! She's a fighter whoever she is!!!!

I keep seeing all this stuff about thermo/thermal radar and such..... Well can you tell me how they can find a dead body with thermo/thermal if the body is cold???

The whole point of thermal radar is finding things that's are hiding like people and animals who are alive! If people on the ground can't find her neither will an airplane that is hundreds of feet in the air let alone using thermal to try to find a hidden "cold" body that will not show up on thermal because its not warm and won't glow. This page is starting to look like a syfy novel.
 
  • #242
I cannot state enough - whoever this girl is that jumped from
That semi roaring at 65mph.... She is one tough cookie!!!! I'm in awe.
 
  • #243
I keep seeing all this stuff about thermo/thermal radar and such..... Well can you tell me how they can find a dead body with thermo/thermal if the body is cold???

The whole point of thermal radar is finding things that's are hiding like people and animals who are alive! If people on the ground can't find her neither will an airplane that is hundreds of feet in the air let alone using thermal to try to find a hidden "cold" body that will not show up on thermal because its not warm and won't glow. This page is starting to look like a syfy novel.

I don't know I'm trying to state what all the users asserted all at once to get everyone up To date. I don't have all the answers. All I know is I posted paragraph after paragraph of how GPR works which is what I believed they most likely utilized.

However if this girl found ends up being Adrienne, who knows maybe they did find her using a thermal imaging device.
 
  • #244
Additionally they could have used thermal imaging bc well...isn't this girl in NM alive? Her body was still emitting thermal energy waves /heat when she was laying on the side of the road. so it makes sense that could be what would find her IMO.

But there's probably no connection.
 
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I just want to thank you again for going above and beyond once again to find out if this was truly adrienne. I can really tell you care for her deeply as I do as well. Please keep me up to date on that other young lady. Poor girl. I'm really hoping its adrienne and she's alive

You are so welcome, beautiful young lady! And thank you for all the many many things you have done and continue to do as well. :)

I hope it's Adrienne too! At least she will have a chance!

I left you a detailed message.

<3
 
  • #247
If this gal who was found in NM on I-40 either jumped or was pushed, it sounds like she was in danger and is lucky to be alive. I don't know if it's Adrienne or not but she's someone who has a family and there is a family who has been missing someone.

The possibility that this is Adrienne or that something like this could have happened to Adrienne is a new one to me. Gotta think about this.

I look forward to any updates on this.
 
  • #248
If this gal who was found in NM on I-40 either jumped or was pushed, it sounds like she was in danger and is lucky to be alive. I don't know if it's Adrienne or not but she's someone who has a family and there is a family who has been missing someone.

The possibility that this is Adrienne or that something like this could have happened to Adrienne is a new one to me. Gotta think about this.

I look forward to any updates on this.

I wonder what kind of car she jumped/was thrown out of?

I want more info on this victim... So much...
 
  • #249
Sorry, it's in my siggy, but here it is.

Police report begins on page 2.

http://s296.photobucket.com/user/crankycrankerson/library/Adrienne%20Salinas%20%20-AZ-#/user/crankycrankerson/library/Adrienne%20Salinas%20%20-AZ-?sort=6&page=1&_suid=137636974736107355427456719076


Not sure if this will work, but try it (I know it won't work for me but it's my acct)
Click this and see if it takes you there:


This is really very nice the way you did this! And I want to thank you very much for giving us the credits! It was really kymas3434 who should have all the credit as she is the one who went down to the station and bought the report for us.

I'm so happy we were able to share it through your fabulous site! I hope everyone will take time to read it and perhaps find something of interest.

Again, thanks so much for your help and for providing a place where WSleuthers can link to it!

GREAT BIG HUGS!
 
  • #250
Yes as you and my good pal Honey said, if not Adrienne she still is someone and that is encouraging! Prayers of whoever it is. :please:

And public, please ask your partner about the tires. If you show him the actual picture of the tires I will send you all my nephews Halloween candy this coming year... Or buy some and give it to you like a normal human being. Lol

I've spoken to him, and he has told me that the damage to the tires (at least the front one, the back one is much harder to see) definitely looks like it could be caused by hitting a gutter with some force. On the front tire just next to the tear in the tire (up the top of the tire) the rim looks a little bent out of shape, he said this would be where she connected with the gutter. He said it looks like the force has actually broken the bead (the point where the tire and the rim meet, kind of like a 'seal'), which could definitely have caused the tire to pop.

I'm no good with photoshopping, so I can't point out the exact points on the tire that I'm talking about, but if you need further clarification I'll do my best to explain it again.

Hopefully that clears things up a bit. MrPH was pretty happy to be able to help. :)
 
  • #251
Oh my goodness! Is that the full police report? I'll have to sit down and read it (with a glass of wine) once I finish cooking dinner, I just came here to quickly post what my other half told me.

Thank you thank you thank you!!! :great:
 
  • #252
What isn't in the police report - or should I say who isn't in the police report - speaks volumes. And there's probably a good reason why that's not public information. Like for example, making it such might jeopardize a case.

JMO.
 
  • #253
Just reading through the report now, although having to be quick since I'm at work. Thanks for posting it.
 
  • #254
So the slender woman was seen on video at the actual time of 05:13 because there's a ~20 minute difference. Did we know this already? I've honestly lost track of the details without checking, but I don't think I'd noted that was the case if I had read it previously.

Not that it matters if it wasn't her..
 
  • #255
So the slender woman was seen on video at the actual time of 05:13 because there's a ~20 minute difference. Did we know this already? I've honestly lost track of the details without checking, but I don't think I'd noted that was the case if I had read it previously.

Not that it matters if it wasn't her..

This is new information. We had speculated on whether or not the time stamp would be correct and it is obviously 20 mins fast.

I have never had the chance to read a missing persons report but this seems so vague IMO.

It makes me furious that poor Adrienne didn't stand a chance that night.

jmo
 
  • #256
Thanks to those who have made the LE report available.
The thread did seem to have a forward momentum at one time and I hope that this can bring about renewed discussion. There are several pages I need to go back over and read multiple times. Its early here and I need Java.

Amandareckonwith provides an amazing resource and I don't know how she does it! Bravo and thank you as always.

jmo
 
  • #257
Woah, that police report surely is interesting!
I have a new suspect. That Circle K worker, coincidentally the initals are CK (last two pages, all in capitals). First explaining that he was just filling in for a regular driver and didn't see nuthin'. When the detective for some reason felt the need to contact him again for additional information, he asks to see the flyer again and suddenly remembers seeing a hispanic female that looked exactly like her in the store, around 5 am, three days after Adrienne's disappearance, at the store microwave. He mentions that his attention was drawn to "very short shorts" she was wearing, light color, possibly white.
The detective reviews the surveillance tapes of the store and finds no hispanic female at the microwave between 4 and 6 am on 6/15, 6/18 or 6/20 (apparently another day CK was working and might have mixed up the dates).
So where did CK see this girl, with the light colored sexy short shorts, a very detailed memory?

An unrelated business provided the surveillance video of a slender female crossing their parking lot in a light colored shorts or skirt around the date/time Adrienne vanished.

Now, for a healthy male it's not very peculiar to remember a female behind in distinct clothing. But that he allegedly saw her in a place she's never been in, three days after she vanished ... and instead there is such a female walking in a dark parking lot, on a day Adrienne vanished ... makes you wonder if he doesn't only mix up dates, but locations as well. Maybe he saw her on the street, while driving around, and she caught his attention with the provocative shorts/skirt. Not that he could tell that to police, of course. And to place her in the store safe and sound three days after she vanished would certainly hint away from foul play.
Maybe he mixed up quite a lot. A perp would probably make up such sightings intentionally to throw LE off.

Of course I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I'd really like to know more details about that line of investigation.
 
  • #258
What isn't in the police report - or should I say who isn't in the police report - speaks volumes. And there's probably a good reason why that's not public information. Like for example, making it such might jeopardize a case.

JMO.

Yep, what isnt being said sure makes ya go "hmmm" :facepalm:



jmo
 
  • #259
This is new information. We had speculated on whether or not the time stamp would be correct and it is obviously 20 mins fast.

I have never had the chance to read a missing persons report but this seems so vague IMO.

It makes me furious that poor Adrienne didn't stand a chance that night.

jmo

Thanks for clarifying, I thought that was the case but it's so easy to miss things when I have several pages to catch up with at once!

I agree completely with the rest of your post as well. :( I don't know what I expected from the report, but I don't feel like I'm any further forward. I can see how LE could be stalling too.. I just hope they aren't.
 
  • #260
Woah, that police report surely is interesting!
I have a new suspect. That Circle K worker, coincidentally the initals are CK (last two pages, all in capitals). First explaining that he was just filling in for a regular driver and didn't see nuthin'. When the detective for some reason felt the need to contact him again for additional information, he asks to see the flyer again and suddenly remembers seeing a hispanic female that looked exactly like her in the store, around 5 am, three days after Adrienne's disappearance, at the store microwave. He mentions that his attention was drawn to "very short shorts" she was wearing, light color, possibly white.
The detective reviews the surveillance tapes of the store and finds no hispanic female at the microwave between 4 and 6 am on 6/15, 6/18 or 6/20 (apparently another day CK was working and might have mixed up the dates).
So where did CK see this girl, with the light colored sexy short shorts, a very detailed memory?

An unrelated business provided the surveillance video of a slender female crossing their parking lot in a light colored shorts or skirt around the date/time Adrienne vanished.

Now, for a healthy male it's not very peculiar to remember a female behind in distinct clothing. But that he allegedly saw her in a place she's never been in, three days after she vanished ... and instead there is such a female walking in a dark parking lot, on a day Adrienne vanished ... makes you wonder if he doesn't only mix up dates, but locations as well. Maybe he saw her on the street, while driving around, and she caught his attention with the provocative shorts/skirt. Not that he could tell that to police, of course. And to place her in the store safe and sound three days after she vanished would certainly hint away from foul play.
Maybe he mixed up quite a lot. A perp would probably make up such sightings intentionally to throw LE off.

Of course I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I'd really like to know more details about that line of investigation.

Yup the circle K kept screaming at me early in the case. I noted that circle K's are somewhat notorious meet up spot for prostitution, drug deals, and transients.

I kept bringing it up, but to no avail. Glad you caught on to this! Certainly has some merit! :). Thank you

Additionally, someone brought up ( I think a taste of honey) that they were reminded of a circle K connection with Dylan Redwine's disappearance? Is this the correct case?

At any rate, circle K's creep me out. Don't go to the one on van Buren unless you want to get VD(s).
 
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