AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #7

[Sunshine95]

Alerted to this article this morning.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/23161392/2013/08/17/salinas-family-spiritual-advisor

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They were there... this has to be an especially crushing blow. I am glad they did not find her; the vision of her condition is not something the family should be haunted by for the rest of their lives (IMO).

I'd like to ask this advisor about who did it/ what happened!

 

[SandSage]

I'd like to ask this advisor about who did it/ what happened!

EXACTLY my first thought. You must be psychic!

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

I believe imho that Adrienne's wreck was a set up. I believe she endured some sort of cranial damage.

I believe she had passed before the wreck. I believe this person intended on making it look like Adrienne met her demise via accidental death and not homicide.

It was an effort, IMHO, to turn a homicide to accident.

I believe there had to be another female then aiding in calling the cab company from Salinas's phone. I think this female was able to sneak into Salinas's room and use her pink charger (bc her phone was dead and had been called from anotger phone to locate it - which explains the 21 calls before the 11 to the bf) I think that female even took the pink charger with her.

For me, the female in the Oreilly's video isn't salinas, but maybe the female who had used Salinas's phone and helped the person trying to cover up Salinas's homicide.

As soon as the cabbie called at 4:53 to say he was almost there and on his way, one minute later that "unidentified" car leaves the circle K lot and drives through Oreilly's at 4:54 on CCTV.

They knew they sealed their alibi of the idea of A being alive DURING and AFTER the wreck.

All IMHO. Morning all

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

IMHO and in my heart i feel baseline was crawling with demons that night.

 

[EmmyB]

The car "accident" bothers me. I find I keep focusing on it. Maybe because it seems like after the accident is when the timeline gets hazy.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

The car "accident" bothers me. I find I keep focusing on it. Maybe because it seems like after the accident is when the timeline gets hazy.

Yes! And how the car sped away like a bat out of hell when the witness came upon the wrecked car further down ash. It's almost as if someone didn't want the witness to see who was in the car IMHO

And the random trip up to Scottsdale where nothing really seemed to go down for too long.

Did they really go up to Scottsdale? I don't think they ever made it up there IMHO. Moo.

Also, I'm thinking if she pulled up a cab company on her phone, it would have given her a company based in Tempe, not Scottsdale.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Just found this video of water rescues taking place on July 21, 2013 in Apache Junction. The one featured in the video was filmed at Lost Dutchman and Goldfield, which happens to be one of the defining boundaries of where Adrienne was found / the items of interest were found.

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...unction-water-rescue-after-sunday-storm-video

Here are some screencaps I just took to show an idea of the flooding right there:

Fwiw - THANK YOU GGE.

 

[margarita25]

Kinda O/T, I realized you make a new post for pretty much every sentence; is this intentional? Maybe some way to reduce server strain (WS seems to have some problems recently)? I would've thought that a barrage of one word/sentence posts rather increase the burden on the servers, but if it's actually helping, I might adopt that MO, too.

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I seem to have done so in that instance above, sorry about that.

As far as making a new post for pretty much every sentence, I think you'll find if you look through my other posts that they are usually not presented in this fashion.

 

[margarita25]

Or maybe they are....

<haha, kidding, couldn't resist>

 

[margarita25]

So, last night I was convinced it was George. This morning I woke up and am not so sure. Funny how that works. Brings to mind the term "beyond a reasonable doubt"...

As Hip mentioned, there possibly was more than one demon out that night. And unfortunately, Adrienne could have been a victim to any one of them.

(I feel the following idea should be posted separately but now I'm all self conscious so will just post it all together, lol):

GGE thanks for those screenshots. Really significant. The topography, runoff etc. have obviously played a big part here. Will need to study all this further. I see you guys have already posted some good stuff re: this. Getting caught up.

 

[alreetlike]

IMHO and in my heart i feel baseline was crawling with demons that night.

I'm with you there.

 

[SandSage]

Or maybe they are....

<haha, kidding, couldn't resist>

Ooooohmigosh. ((((((Margarita25))))))). :floorlaugh:

 

[margarita25]

Ok, so straight shot approx 30 miles east. That's where my brain is today. Thinking about this distance / area...

Also, I remember Annovedwin had Native American ties, school, etc...going back to recomb this angle. I'm sure "Apache" is a common title down there (maybe like Peachtree in Georgia?)...

 

[cluciano63]

In my mind, there is too much conspiracy required to have anyone except Adrienne driving her car. I believe she drove, and was alone. JMO

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

Ok, so straight shot approx 30 miles east. That's where my brain is today. Thinking about this distance / area...

Also, I remember Annovedwin had Native American ties, school, etc...going back to recomb this angle. I'm sure "Apache" is a common title down there (maybe like Peachtree in Georgia?)...

Yup. super common from my experience of living in the area. I used to live off of Southern Ave in Tempe, about 2 streets north of baseline.

The great thing is that IF the suspect utilized baseline as a surface street to apache junction, the cross streets of baseline and 101 and baseline and 202 would provide camera footage. Highway access ramps have cams there.

 

[EmmyB]

Something I've been thinking about from the police report. And thanks to all of you involved in making that available.
The roommate mentions approximately 15 people were at the house but she mentions one person by name, maybe she was suspicious of this specific person. I noticed that person is from Scottsdale.
That person has not been named as a suspect or POI.

 

[Sunshine95]

What if BF called roommate or other at party for help because something was wrong with AS, they borrowed her car, had an accident, then later in the night figured it into the story to cover up? Maybe it wasn't created at the time as a means to cover up/ conspire, but they figured out how to use it afterwards to make the story that she came home?
ONLY MY OPINION and thinking hypothetically.

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

What if BF called roommate or other at party for help because something was wrong with AS, they borrowed her car, had an accident, then later in the night figured it into the story to cover up? Maybe it wasn't created at the time as a means to cover up/ conspire, but they figured out how to use it afterwards to make the story that she came home?
ONLY MY OPINION and thinking hypothetically.

I agree with everything except I don't think it was an accidental death. I think she was assaulted and the wreck was a means to try and make the trauma to her head (IMHO) to look like an accident. Moo

 

[Seajay]

So LE's best bet would be to know what each of the "players" was driving and then look at camera footage in those areas to see what comes up. I know it's busy so the next thing would be to look at any cameras in the A. J. area, or on the roads from Tempe to A.J. Hopefully with at least some of them having camera, maybe our perp took one?

 

[2Hip2BSquare]

So LE's best bet would be to know what each of the "players" was driving and then look at camera footage in those areas to see what comes up. I know it's busy so the next thing would be to look at any cameras in the A. J. area, or on the roads from Tempe to A.J. Hopefully with at least some of them having camera, maybe our perp took one?

Bingo! ^^^ I wish I could thank this a billion and one times!