AZ AZ - Allison Feldman, 31, Scottsdale, 18 Feb 2015 #1

[nancydrew71]

Are you SURE this was her condo that was foreclosed on? If it is, I would think the mortgage company for her new home would need a huge amount of money down to assure them, in case of foreclosure. Was the new home, put in just her name or was it her attorney's name? Her parents could have given her the money for the home. Her family doesn't seem to know who would have done this to her so I don't think there's an issue there anyway.

 

[SweetT]

Could it be possibly something like she upgraded to the new home before the condo was sold and when it didnt sell in time it went into foreclosure? I bought a home once from a lady who had already bought another house for pretty much nothing down etc cause she was so desperate to get rid of her existing home so that she could just get rid of it before foreclosure Im guessing.

 

[MaryS]

I'm almost reaching the conclusion that Allison was indeed targeted. For money. This latest info regarding the mortgages makes me think it was a "hit". The cloth around the head is a technique used by executioners. The robbery and the rape could have both been staged.

IMO

Is that a recent report from LE that AF was raped?

 

[MissD]

Could it be possibly something like she upgraded to the new home before the condo was sold and when it didnt sell in time it went into foreclosure? I bought a home once from a lady who had already bought another house for pretty much nothing down etc cause she was so desperate to get rid of her existing home so that she could just get rid of it before foreclosure Im guessing.

I'm thinking there's much more to the story on that condo she owned on Indian School. That is only one block away from me btw.

Why would Allison do something that would affect her credit scooter for TEN YEARS?

 

[MissD]

The only logical answer I can come up with is that maybe there was another party involved in that condo. Maybe a guy she had been seeing who set her up in it and was making the payments for her. That isn't at all unusual here in Scottsdale. One of my friends called me yesterday to say her boyfriend had just bought her a Bentley. He's married btw.

It could be that Allison wanted to get away from this person bad enough to ruin her credit. Or he could have been using the condo to keep control of her.

She hadn't started dating Alex yet. We don't really know ANYTHING about her relationships before that. I wonder why she didn't have anything on Facebook about any other guy before Alex.

 

[MissD]

Is that a recent report from LE that AF was raped?

Since she was found nude and LE is collecting DNA samples from all males interviewed I think we can safely assume this was the case. Are you telling me you didn't think so?

 

[Luvrosco]

I specifically asked a detective this question yesterday and he refused to confirm it. Would only say the boyfriend is cooperating.
I agree with you. If they know he's innocent why not come out and say so?

Wow, I wasn't on this thread much yesterday due to the arrests in Noah Thomas's death. LE always stated that his parents were very cooperative,and they were arrested yesterday. So I wonder if LE sometimes just says that. The foreclosure stuff is interesting. I don't know how she would be able to buy a house with a foreclosure on her credit. I do know that it can take a couple of months for things to actually show up on a person's credit report. I do think that someone close to her killed her. I also wonder if LE knows who it is,but just doesn't have the evidence for an arrest. I would love to know if her BF appears to have gone on with his life quite easily. The sending him home to study seems odd to me.

 

[MissD]

Could it be possibly something like she upgraded to the new home before the condo was sold and when it didnt sell in time it went into foreclosure? I bought a home once from a lady who had already bought another house for pretty much nothing down etc cause she was so desperate to get rid of her existing home so that she could just get rid of it before foreclosure Im guessing.

Sweet T, another thing is that responsible young people with all their ducks in a row, as we have been led to believe about Allison don't buy houses before their existing home is sold. I can't see her doing this unless there were some mitigating circumstances we don't know about and from the looks of it there were.

 

[MissD]

Wow, I wasn't on this thread much yesterday due to the arrests in Noah Thomas's death. LE always stated that his parents were very cooperative,and they were arrested yesterday. So I wonder if LE sometimes just says that. The foreclosure stuff is interesting. I don't know how she would be able to buy a house with a foreclosure on her credit. I do know that it can take a couple of months for things to actually show up on a person's credit report. I do think that someone close to her killed her. I also wonder if LE knows who it is,but just doesn't have the evidence for an arrest. I would love to know if her BF appears to have gone on with his life quite easily. The sending him home to study seems odd to me.

I'm sure he has taken a lie detector test and passed. At least once or twice. LE has never indicated he was a suspect, even allowing him to go out of the country.

Allison might have sent him home to study because someone from her past, maybe whoever might have set her up in that condo (if that's the case) was putting tremendous pressure on her to talk to him. Going back to that Valentine's Day pic I really think that set some things in motion.

I do know LE had thought there was someone from her past who they suspected. Remember? They wanted to monitor them.

 

[SweetT]

Isn't Allison the one who had a message on FB from someone wanting to go to coffee/dinner or something and she promptly declined? Or am I confused with another case?

 

[MissD]

Are you SURE this was her condo that was foreclosed on? If it is, I would think the mortgage company for her new home would need a huge amount of money down to assure them, in case of foreclosure. Was the new home, put in just her name or was it her attorney's name? Her parents could have given her the money for the home. Her family doesn't seem to know who would have done this to her so I don't think there's an issue there anyway.

Yes I am very sure. I live right in the neighborhood. Also her neighbors at that old condo signed her funeral guest book. You have seen that haven't you?

You say this is a non issue because her family doesn't know who would want to kill her. I am not following what you mean here. Are you saying a neighbor is more likely because her family did not know who would want to kill her?

Nancy Drew, I know you are convinced it was a neighbor but we don't know that and there is nothing at all to indicate that so we are exploring other theories.

Like Sergeant Ben Hoster said "Only Allison and her killer know all the elements of this crime. "

 

[Deleted member 50844]

The foreclosure stuff is interesting. I don't know how she would be able to buy a house with a foreclosure on her credit. I do know that it can take a couple of months for things to actually show up on a person's credit report.

RSBM...
It may not show up on her credit report, but every time I've gotten a home loan, they ask on the application paperwork if you have had a home foreclosed on or something to that effect.
I just dug out my loan application for one of the homes I own now and under Declarations, it asks, amongst other things;
Are there any outstanding judgements against you?
Have you had property foreclosed upon or given title or deed in lieu thereof in the last 7 years?
Have you directly or indirectly been obligated on any loan which resulted in foreclosure, transfer of title in lieu of foreclosure, or judgement?
Blah blah blah...if "Yes" provide details, including date, name and address of lender, etc....
Have you had an ownership interest in property in the last three years?

Then of course you have to sign that all of the above is true and that misinformation can result in criminal action and whatnot.
I cannot imagine that she would lie on that form. From all we 'know' of her she was a good upstanding citizen and a smart cookie to boot. I also honestly believe she was smart enough to read all of the terms, etc.

Another point someone made above is a good one. I cannot see any lender giving her a mortgage on such a high dollar home if she had recently or even within the past several years defaulted on a mortgage. Heck, a family member defaulted on an almost paid off truck a few years ago and cannot now even qualify for a loan for a motorcycle and that is for a whole lot less $$ than this home.

I am thinking there is either some kind of mixup here regarding what was found about the homes.
As always, MY OPINION ONLY.

P.S. I just love you guys/girls here. As I am disabled with a chronic illness, I don't get out much at all, and this place stimulates my mind in ways that are interesting and fascinating to me. I told my husband again this morning...."If I go missing or am murdered" get on Websleuths immediately. Reach out to someone on there who will open a thread on me. They will get to the bottom of it! Who wants to volunteer to be a contact person for him? HAHA

 

[MissD]

Isn't Allison the one who had a message on FB from someone wanting to go to coffee/dinner or something and she promptly declined? Or am I confused with another case?

Yes that was Allison. And yes it did seem very strange. Very awkward. The guy is much older, a former U of A grad and he's somewhat creepy looking. Not that you can really tell that much by looks. I don't actually see him involved in this however. Nothing really to go on. Just my gut feeling. Aren't you the one who also said she would have no problem finding some nice wealthy doctor? Or was that someone else? Lol

 

[SweetT]

The lady I bought my house from, the one who had already gotten another home was also a smart cookie and a president of a company . She at one point even offered to pay my down money to hurry the process up further cause she already had the other home. I didn't accept her offer as I eventually got it all taken care of but I know she wasn't stupid either. I always wondered if she left that home cause it was a starter home, even though it was just her and her son and no bf around, and she wanted bigger and better. She also had mentioned that she had quite a bit of money in a college fund for her only son who was not even one yet. Or if selling and moving were for another reason..Since it fit our family of 5 just fine. And when I found a leaf for her expensive dining table and gave her lots and lots of time to come and retrieve it and she never did made me wonder. I will say that after living there for 7 yrs, that place was haunted. You can be skeptical and thats fine but even my kids recall the crazy stuff that happened there..That is a whole different story though.

 

[SweetT]

Yes that was Allison. And yes it did seem very strange. Very awkward. The guy is much older, a former U of A grad and he's somewhat creepy looking. Not that you can really tell that much by looks. I don't actually see him involved in this however. Nothing really to go on. Just my gut feeling. Aren't you the one who also said she would have no problem finding some nice wealthy doctor? Or was that someone else? Lol

It was me..and that is true..I dont know what exactly medical sales she did, but if she were a drug rep she would have had contact with many young drs and interns etc.

 

[SurfieTX]

It was me..and that is true..I dont know what exactly medical sales she did, but if she were a drug rep she would have had contact with many young drs and interns etc.

IIRC, the company produces wound care products. It's based in Switzerland, but has a few US locations. Yes, she would be in contact with lots of physicians/nurses/PAs as I am sure she went to wound care centers, physician's offices and hospitals (as all would use the products).

 

[cluciano63]

LE really can't stop anyone from leaving the country, unless they are under arrest. A POI would be able to travel freely. It really isn't like the old movies, i.e "don"t leave town, mister". So I don't think much can be concluded if BF has travled, either way. I don't think anyone has been cleared.
jmo

 

[nancydrew71]

Yes I am very sure. I live right in the neighborhood. Also her neighbors at that old condo signed her funeral guest book. You have seen that haven't you?

You say this is a non issue because her family doesn't know who would want to kill her. I am not following what you mean here. Are you saying a neighbor is more likely because her family did not know who would want to kill her?

Nancy Drew, I know you are convinced it was a neighbor but we don't know that and there is nothing at all to indicate that so we are exploring other theories.

Like Sergeant Ben Hoster said "Only Allison and her killer know all the elements of this crime. "

I don't know. she looks kind of innocent and naïve to me, coming from the upper Midwest. I think she has values too. I can't see her living in a condo paid for by a boyfriend. It could be it was sold and she bought this home and then the condo sale fell through. If they say no forced entry, then how come the boyfriend was shown on camera, but not the next person who came to her door?!!!!! Sounds like this person came through a back window. so maybe my neighbor theory is all wrong.

 

[MissD]

The lady I bought my house from, the one who had already gotten another home was also a smart cookie and a president of a company . She at one point even offered to pay my down money to hurry the process up further cause she already had the other home. I didn't accept her offer as I eventually got it all taken care of but I know she wasn't stupid either. I always wondered if she left that home cause it was a starter home, even though it was just her and her son and no bf around, and she wanted bigger and better. She also had mentioned that she had quite a bit of money in a college fund for her only son who was not even one yet. Or if selling and moving were for another reason..Since it fit our family of 5 just fine. And when I found a leaf for her expensive dining table and gave her lots and lots of time to come and retrieve it and she never did made me wonder. I will say that after living there for 7 yrs, that place was haunted. You can be skeptical and thats fine but even my kids recall the crazy stuff that happened there..That is a whole different story though.

I totally believe in ghosts. I owned a home for ten years that the owners had both died in. Older people. Natural deaths. I always felt a lot of comfort that Charles and Eleanor were there with me. ��

Actually, going back to that last house Allison owned, the one where she was murdered, it had been heavily renovated. That isn't the most expensive or high end area around but it is veer nice and very popular. The owner would have had no problem turning it.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't know. she looks kind of innocent and naïve to me, coming from the upper Midwest. I think she has values too. I can't see her living in a condo paid for by a boyfriend. It could be it was sold and she bought this home and then the condo sale fell through. If they say no forced entry, then how come the boyfriend was shown on camera, but not the next person who came to her door!!!!! Sounds like this person came through a back window. so maybe my neighbor theory is all wrong.

Jmo,that is kind of a strange conclusion to draw, i.e about her being naive and unlikely to live in a condo owned by a BF? She was an thirty one year -old businesswoman. I really don't see the Midwest being a factor...jmo.