AZ AZ - Allison Feldman, 31, Scottsdale, 18 Feb 2015 #1

[SurfieTX]

That photo is haunting - Okay, I know I'm going off the deep-end in reading too much into it; but it seems like a good-bye, or "this is the way things should have been" message there. The two bunches of tulips - one free in water, the other tightly bound, unwrapped... Champaign left out, not being chilled, and no glasses...

Now even more over reaching .... notice the photos on the end-table, positioned such that none can be seen as to what they show...

ETA - why is the Champaign label somewhat hidden... why not show it full view...

ETA again - the tulips in water appear older than the bunch that not - as the the flowers are closed more... so they appear not have been purchases at the same time.

BBM: I noticed the same thing, Steve.

 

[SurfieTX]

Okay, this is going to sound wayyyy out there, but, here it goes. According to her FB, she flew back from another state on Friday. Valentine's Day was on Saturday. Could the flowers have been left on her porch by an admirer? Were some charges made on a corporate card of a personal nature (I know a lot of people who turn personal transactions into business ones in the right situation, which is wrong, but some will)? Did the phone contain some questionable text messages? Was the bracelet a secret that only a few people knew about?

The gift bag seems to have been constructed by a female. I don't really know of any males who would situate the tissue paper so crisp and artistic. I guess some would, but... ?

ETA: IOW, 2 different gifts - one is the card, gift and tulips in water. The other is the tulips wrapped up and the bottle of champagne that is not chilling.

 

[time]

Hi...the photo that Alex posted on Feb 15th was already a photo he had on there. He just changed his profile picture to that one, which had been taken during the Superbowl festivities.

As for taking the V Day pic...I agree. I posted one myself on V Day.

I suppose the thing that bothered me most about the pic is that there was absolutely no follow up photos or posts of anything they did, anywhere they went, etc.

It didn't seem to fit her normal FB MO.

JMO

Thanks... didn't know that about the photo on the 15th. I too think the timing is odd, posting on the 14th and 15th --- nothing posted --- then she's gone on the 17th/18th.

I probably missed it, did anyone say they talked to her from the 16th-17th?

Evidence shows the suspect left Feldman's home around 1 a.m. on Wednesday, according to police.

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-no...phone-tiffany-bracelet-credit-cards-from-home

Is this because of TOD?

 

[ModMaiden]

In the picture that window looks odd to me. The brown curtains (they look sheer) are behind the blinds and yet that doesn't look like blinds. I don't even see draw strings for the blinds, which normally should be there. Could be nothing but sure looks strange to me.

 

[SurfieTX]

Police still haven't said how 31-year old Allison Feldman was killed, but her dad, who gave us these new photos, said he was told it was a "random attack"...

Allison's mom talked to her Tuesday night for the last time. That same night, one of her dad's texts didn't go through. On Wednesday they tried to call her but her phone was off, something her dad said never happened. "Everything is now cut off and so we don't understand it," Feldman said...

Allison's cousin said she's been with her boyfriend, Alex, for several months but she doesn't think he'd ever do anything to hurt her. "He didn't give me any feeling of he had a dark side whatsoever," she said.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ews-scottsdale-murder-family-speaks/23787219/

 

[SurfieTX]

I think TOD is usually when the body is found, which in her case was the 18th. However, all of the evidence we have thus far points to her murder occurring on Tuesday evening..she talked to her mom, dad's text did not go through later, and then POI was seen leaving at 1:00 a.m. on Wednesday morning per the security camera and her phone was turned off all day on Wednesday and no contact with family or friends.

 

[cluciano63]

Okay, this is going to sound wayyyy out there, but, here it goes. According to her FB, she flew back from another state on Friday. Valentine's Day was on Saturday. Could the flowers have been left on her porch by an admirer? Were some charges made on a corporate card of a personal nature (I know a lot of people who turn personal transactions into business ones in the right situation, which is wrong, but some will)? Did the phone contain some questionable text messages? Was the bracelet a secret that only a few people knew about?

The gift bag seems to have been constructed by a female. I don't really know of any males who would situate the tissue paper so crisp and artistic. I guess some would, but... ?

ETA: IOW, 2 different gifts - one is the card, gift and tulips in water. The other is the tulips wrapped up and the bottle of champagne that is not chilling.

Or the one could have been put together professionally? Someone I know does gift bags for a living and makes the paper all crisp like that...jmo
If so, maybe someone will recognize their work...

 

[charminglane]

The photo-
Appears to be taken by someone much taller than me. I'm a bit over 5 ft.
A woman would buy tissue that matched the bag.
It's her house. He has nothing to put the champagne in to chill?
Boyfriend is waiting for her to get home, where he will greet her at the door with tulips.
(They are one of my fave flower, if you gave me roses I would say you don't know me.)
Photo is disturbing to me, too.

 

[Dushi]

The gift could have been bagged where it was purchased

oops Didn't see your tabove Cluciano

 

[bettiepageturner]

I don't have anything more to add now other than I feel LE is playing "cat and mouse" with her killer.

Let's hope he goes for the cheese.

Thanks for your continued thoughts on the bracelet, MissD.

I wasn't even considering the DNA angle, so that was an interesting point to consider as well.

I'm imagining a "possessive" perp who may have left a digital record somewhere regarding the item. Whether emphasizing the fact that he bought it for her, or asking for it back — I know I've had controlling characters in my life try to use favors/gifts as leverage. Imagine being that perp, pleading ignorance and innocence, and being informed of that item being missing. To a certain personality type, that could feel like betrayal — did she sell it? Lose it? Did someone ACTUALLY rob her? Was someone on the scene afterwards and took it? What do they know? I think it could lead to an intense emotional reaction that would then be difficult to disguise as casual questioning. It would be suspicious to ask more about the circumstances of the missing bracelet than necessary, especially in light of the (much stranger, IMO) missing credit cards. More importantly: if it was an item of significance to him and he knows he didn't take it, he would be forced to play along in abject terror, wondering what else LE knows.

Alternatively, if the perp kept it as a trophy (possibly for similar obsessive reasons), the fact that the public is now (halfheartedly) warned to be on the look out for it, might actually make him nervous enough to try to get rid of it.

 

[Dushi]

When I come into this thread , I get a warning from my antivirus protection, but not in any other thread

 

[enzeder]

Reading the below quote I'm getting the impression that the police are maybe appealing to someone who might live with the killer. Like, did you notice this person's absence during this time?.

"Henny said evidence also suggest the suspect left around 1 a.m., therefore he would have been unaccounted for late Tuesday, after 1 a.m. Wednesday morning."
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...etails-in-scottsdale-murder-mystery/25004555/

 

[MissD]

When I come into this thread , I get a warning from my antivirus protection, but not in any other thread

Dushi...so am I. And it gives me the site from the link Bernina posted with regards to the bracelets. It is malware. I have been wondering if anyone else was getting this too.

Maybe we should let Bernina know so she can remove the link.

 

[MissD]

Reading the below quote I'm getting the impression that the police are maybe appealing to someone who might live with the killer. Like, did you notice this person's absence during this time?.

"Henny said evidence also suggest the suspect left around 1 a.m., therefore he would have been unaccounted for late Tuesday, after 1 a.m. Wednesday morning."
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news...etails-in-scottsdale-murder-mystery/25004555/

I definitely think this is the case.

 

[MissD]

Thanks for your continued thoughts on the bracelet, MissD.

I wasn't even considering the DNA angle, so that was an interesting point to consider as well.

I'm imagining a "possessive" perp who may have left a digital record somewhere regarding the item. Whether emphasizing the fact that he bought it for her, or asking for it back — I know I've had controlling characters in my life try to use favors/gifts as leverage. Imagine being that perp, pleading ignorance and innocence, and being informed of that item being missing. To a certain personality type, that could feel like betrayal — did she sell it? Lose it? Did someone ACTUALLY rob her? Was someone on the scene afterwards and took it? What do they know? I think it could lead to an intense emotional reaction that would then be difficult to disguise as casual questioning. It would be suspicious to ask more about the circumstances of the missing bracelet than necessary, especially in light of the (much stranger, IMO) missing credit cards. More importantly: if it was an item of significance to him and he knows he didn't take it, he would be forced to play along in abject terror, wondering what else LE knows.

Alternatively, if the perp kept it as a trophy (possibly for similar obsessive reasons), the fact that the public is now (halfheartedly) warned to be on the look out for it, might actually make him nervous enough to try to get rid of it.

Thanks for more thoughts along this line. I'm convinced this bracelet is being used as bait by LE. Whether or not it was really stolen is debatable. It could be the perp wanted it back. It could be that sometime during the evening (whatever was going on) she gave it back to him.

I do think you are accurate in your character analysis. This person is probably very controlling, possessive and obsessive. I don't know what the name for that is psychologically. I'm sure there is one.

I too have tried to imagine the killer's thoughts when reading about the disappearance of the bracelet if indeed he didn't take it.

I like the way you think.

 

[Luvrosco]

I'm sorry if this question has been discussed. How do they know the perp left a 1:00?

 

[MissD]

The photo-
Appears to be taken by someone much taller than me. I'm a bit over 5 ft.
A woman would buy tissue that matched the bag.
It's her house. He has nothing to put the champagne in to chill?
Boyfriend is waiting for her to get home, where he will greet her at the door with tulips.
(They are one of my fave flower, if you gave me roses I would say you don't know me.)
Photo is disturbing to me, too.

Good point about the tissue not matching the bag. A guy is more likely to put the gift in a bag rather than actually wrap it too.
I don't really think the Champagne not being chilled is a big deal since the photo was taken at 12:02 PM. (noonish) It was probably for later that evening.
And he probably bought the champagne as well as the tulips, which he bought two bunches of but only needed one.
Tulips are sweet but I think of them more as an Easter flower and not a sweetheart flower. If you gave me red roses I would say you know me very well.

I still wish I knew what the card read.

 

[enzeder]

I'm sorry if this question has been discussed. How do they know the perp left a 1:00?

I've only read that police have 'evidence' regarding the time the killer left.

"Evidence shows the suspect left Feldman's home around 1 a.m. on Wednesday, according to police."
http://www.abc15.com/news/region-no...phone-tiffany-bracelet-credit-cards-from-home

 

[MissD]

Thanks... didn't know that about the photo on the 15th. I too think the timing is odd, posting on the 14th and 15th --- nothing posted --- then she's gone on the 17th/18th.

I probably missed it, did anyone say they talked to her from the 16th-17th?



http://www.abc15.com/news/region-no...phone-tiffany-bracelet-credit-cards-from-home

Is this because of TOD?

I haven't read anything to indicate that any of her friends or family spoke with her over the weekend. Only what has been reported in the news from her Dad and sister relating that her dad had spoken with Allison on Tuesday. I think it was Tuesday. Not Monday.

So many varying news stories but didn't her sister say Allison had kicked Alex out of the house on Tuesday and told him to go home and study and have some quiet time?

I'm wondering if this old flame or obsessive-possessive person she knew from her past had contacted her and persuaded her to let him come by just one more time, laid a guilt trip on her, she felt a need to explain her feelings for Alex to him, whatever. Could that be why she asked Alex to go home. Maybe she just wanted to get this character out of her hair once and for all.

 

[enzeder]

Good point about the tissue not matching the bag. A guy is more likely to put the gift in a bag rather than actually wrap it too.
I don't really think the Champagne not being chilled is a big deal since the photo was taken at 12:02 PM. (noonish) It was probably for later that evening.
And he probably bought the champagne as well as the tulips, which he bought two bunches of but only needed one.
Tulips are sweet but I think of them more as an Easter flower and not a sweetheart flower. If you gave me red roses I would say you know me very well.

I still wish I knew what the card read.

BBM Me too! - I've tried every which way without any success. Two examples below. :/

Original Valentines Day pic.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...508415.-2207520000.1426871066.&type=3&theater