AZ AZ - Allison Feldman, 31, Scottsdale, 18 Feb 2015 #2

[OldSteve]

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It could also be a peeper type who was looking and listening and heard Allison tell her boyfriend to go home. Just another theory...

We know so little about her lifestyle... Was she in the habit of going around her place with the blinds inadvertently not completely closed?

 

[MissD]

I wonder why it was not put in the fridge to chill? That is what I would do unless they were saving it for some other special occasion.

This is such a good question, which I overlooked yesterday. I'm glad that I sometimes come back and read and re-read the posts from the day before.

Yes Nancy, of course the champagne would have been put in the fridge to chill. This kind of confirms in my mind that something might have gone wrong early in the day on Saturday, the 14th. Valentine's Day.

I have asked my BF several times to look at that VDay photo and tell me how he interpreted it and each time he says the same thing. It looks to him like it was put out there and posted on FB for someone else to see it with the intent being "Where the hell are you?"

Of course we don't know this. But I agree that after whoever arrived and found the nice presentation waiting for them and gifts were opened or exchanged, etc., normally the champagne would be put in the fridge to chill for that night.

So this makes me wonder if she had planned on them staying in maybe, hanging out by the pool, cooking steaks out. I know that what I did this last VDay was buy filet and lobster so that we could stay at home and celebrate. For those of us who like to celebrate with champagne or a few drinks it is way too dangerous to go out here in Scottsdale on a holiday night like that with the cops having traps set up to catch those leaving restaurants and clubs and doling out the DUIs. Unless you want to take a cab home, that is.

So if they did stay home and hang out by the pool what happened? Why no photos? Why was that the only photo posted that day. Normally they would have had photos of them out at a club, at a restaurant, with friends, the weather was beautiful that day. I know I would have probably wanted to hang out by the pool with my love.

So, for the sake of argument, let's say they went out to dinner and to a movie instead of staying home. And let's say both had been drinking, (you can drink at the movies here) and so they took a cab home. Say they left the BFs car at the movie and took the cab. This sounds reasonable to me. I know several couples who did this very thing on Valentine's Day.

And they saw the movie "Fifty Shades of Gray". My friends did. I don't know what movie Allison and her BF might have gone to see but it could have been that one. Allison had posted on FB about it a few months back indicating an interest in seeing it. So it isn't unreasonable to think they might have gone there.

So again, let's assume they did take a cab home. After they arrived home the cabdriver dropped them off and the BFs car was still at the movie or club or where ever they left it. That's smart. Do not drink and drive in Scottsdale!

So the next day Allison probably took the BF to pick up his car from whereever they left it. Or did she? Maybe he called up a buddy and asked him to come over and take him to get it.

So maybe the buddy came over for a little while and then he and the BF left to go get his car.

Okay...does anyone see where I am going with this line of thinking? We need to try to reconstruct what we at least think they did that weekend. And who else might have seen them or noticed them etc.

At this point we have the possibility of a cab driver. Maybe a friend of the BF. Maybe someone else, someone Allison knew.

Oh btw, I have some photos I will upload here in a few minutes showing how someone can easily see into Allison's backyard, even look into her house from that dark back alley. It scares me.

I'll post those in a few minutes.

 

[MissD]

Hi friends! I am catching up on yesterdays posts since we are back open! Just a random thought: do we know that the perp did or did not leave via car/truck/van etc? We always assume that the camera caught him leaving the house on foot but do we know that? In seeing the blue BMW in photos, I wonder if the cameras that verified the BF arriving was just his car. I assume (big assumption) that SPD would have stated what kind of car was seen leaving? Maybe not. Why would someone show up on your doorstep on foot? If her body was found in the hallway was it right inside the door? How awful to put all of it together. Killed in her own home at the hands of someone she at least knew. :thinking:

No, SPD has not even told us (publicly) how they spotted the perp leaving. They have only verified when the BF arrived the day he found her body that he was seen on the neighbor's surveillance camera and news sources have taken photos and publicly shown the camera, which appears to be the house immediately next door to her on the east side.

Nothing has been reported in the news to indicate even how they know the perp left at 1:05 a.m.

I was told this privately by one of the investigators on the case. And he told me they only got a shape. But he didn't tell me if the perp left through the front door, the back door, the chimney, however. He didn't mention anything about a vehicle being seen.

But from what we know that has been previously reported I think we can all safely assume the neighbor's cam caught him leaving through the front door. It seems the only logical explanation.

As for where her body was found - it was reported in the news that it was found in the main hallway. By this I took it to mean the hallway that goes back from the living room to the bedrooms.

And that brings up a whole 'nother line of thinking.

Next post.

 

[MissD]

Where was Allison killed? Was she killed in that hallway or was her body dragged there, after being killed somewhere else in the house?

This is what I'm thinking. If you look at the house, it is fairly open in the back. And as I have previously stated, one can quite easily be seen from the back alley if someone is trying to peak in.

So I'm trying to imagine the killer being in there with Allison late at night, fighting with her possibly, anyway...killing her. And if there were lights on, which there probably were, unless he turned them off, he would have to risk being seen.

So he might have killed her somewhere else, maybe even in the dark, in the bedroom, or somewhere else. But he needed light so he could do whatever he did to the body with that white substance and the cloth wrapped around her head.

And the only place where he could do this was in the hall where there were no windows. So he drug the body in there. Why not the bathroom?

Well, maybe he wanted to be able to go in there to get cleaned up after the brutal slaying.

I wonder if the security lights she had in her back yard were on that night. Maybe he never turned them off because he didn't want to cast suspicion. She only had one little porch light in the front of her house. No other lights at all. Not even landscaping. I know, I looked for them when I was there two nights ago.

So, this could be another reason for leaving out the front door.

And maybe he never had noticed that the neighbors had a security cam up under their eave. I have a hunch Allison didn't know the neighbors very well as she traveled so much. And from being over there it looks like everyone stays inside most of the time. At least inside from the front way. Most have pools so they probably are out in back when they're outside.

So not knowing about the security camera would be understandable if it was someone that Allison knew well and had been a regular visitor. Or even a burglar. From the positioning of that camera I don't think most perps, even looking for a camera, would have spotted it in the location it was installed.

They would be looking for something closer to the corner of the house.

Jmo

 

[MissD]

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We know so little about her lifestyle... Was she in the habit of going around her place with the blinds open. Before you say she was too smart to do that - for reasons my wife and I cannot figure, a niece of ours liked to go around her first floor Boston apt. while getting ready for bed leaving her blinds open to get fresh air! - and she's a college grad with MS degree, and very attractive...

BBM: Good point Steve! We do and we don't know much about Allison and her lifestyle.

Fortunately for us we have her very active and very public Facebook account, in which she posted lots of photos and thoughts and comments about what she was doing, where she was going, Who she was in love with....that kind of stuff.

One thing struck me while looking at all the (actually hundreds) of photos I have seen of Allison and that is she was not only attractive and young and successful, but she was also very stylish and somewhat modest in her attire. I never saw one picture out of many that had her with anything revealing on at all. She was hardly ever seen going out on a special occasion in anything other than a dress as well. And nothing lowcut ever.

Allison appeared to be very much the lady. I really can't see her running about her house undressed or scantily clad if she knew someone could see her.

And surely when her parents, her dad, visited her and saw her home and that alley behind her, he must have cautioned her to be careful. I know I would have done that for sure!

But you could be right. She might have not thought much about going around in her robe or pajamas not thinking about a possible perp outside peeking in on her.

But then on the other hand, a jealous lover or would be lover or ex lover, could also have been in that alley peeking in to see what Allison was doing and who she was doing it with.

jmo

 

[nancydrew71]

From MissD,Oh btw, I have some photos I will upload here in a few minutes showing how someone can easily see into Allison's backyard, even look into her house from that dark back alley. It scares me.

This is why I don't understand her parents thinking she was safe. I would have vigorously opposed her living in a home alone. I know she's an adult but even her BF said she should get an alarm system. As for the two bouquets, I think one was for her and one for the BF.

 

[Luvrosco]

You gave us a lot to think about. I wish we had some more information about her friends,interests and crime scene. It's so frustrating that there had been nothing new.

 

[Luvrosco]

Just to add,when I think of a hallway,I think of it as probably where the bedrooms were off of. Does this house have a foyer when you walk in? Was she walking down the hall and was hit from behind? All my similes are gone!

 

[MissD]

Sorry I'm being so lazy about the photos...okay downloading them now.

 

[Luvrosco]

Thanks

 

[lstiff]

Just to add,when I think of a hallway,I think of it as probably where the bedrooms were off of. Does this house have a foyer when you walk in? Was she walking down the hall and was hit from behind? All my similes are gone!

There are pictures of the interior of her house and my hallway thought was initially right inside the door BUT I honestly have nothing to base that on b/c we don't know any details of the crime scene.

Another thought I still have that lingers is what were Allison's days like between the 14th and the murder day? We don't have much of a timeline here. Did she work on Monday and Tuesday? Was she seen on those days and if so did she indicate ANYTHING out of the ordinary? I know we have the "conversation" with her mom the night of the murder but what about her friends and co-workers? I'm just so curious if anyone may have a clue that they aren't even realizing can be a clue. Just a conversation in passing. Most of us don't treat every day routines or conversations like it's the very last one. JMO

 

[Bernina]

It could also be a peeper type who was looking and listening and heard Allison tell her boyfriend to go home. Just another theory...

When I look at the gifts on the table I keep thinking these are gifts SHE bought for her boyfriend and their night together. The handwriting looks feminine to me. I figured she had tulips for him to take home in the wrap and some to decorate her home in a vase. I wonder if there was some sort of fight and she just put the champagne on the shelf afterwards. I think she posted the picture on Facebook just before the arrival of the boyfriend, like he was on his way over there at that point and she was showing everyone her nice Valentine's preparations.

I think the Valentine's photo was just the stuff she planned on giving to celebrate.........don't any of you have a nice dinner or go out to eat? And guys buy roses and chocolates, and maybe a piece of jewelry. Valentine's Day is on the 14th of February. She was murdered the 18th?
And many people don't advertise what they did for Valentine's Day, for them it's private and shared with only a few. Maybe one bunch of tulips was going to work with her?
If that champagne WAS going to be drunk fairly soon, wouldn't she have had it in a bucket if ice? The pic looks like it was taken during the day.....usually one celebrates in the evening.

 

[Luvrosco]

There are pictures of the interior of her house and my hallway thought was initially right inside the door BUT I honestly have nothing to base that on b/c we don't know any details of the crime scene.

Another thought I still have that lingers is what were Allison's days like between the 14th and the murder day? We don't have much of a timeline here. Did she work on Monday and Tuesday? Was she seen on those days and if so did she indicate ANYTHING out of the ordinary? I know we have the "conversation" with her mom the night of the murder but what about her friends and co-workers? I'm just so curious if anyone may have a clue that they aren't even realizing can be a clue. Just a conversation in passing. Most of us don't treat every day routines or conversations like it's the very last one. JMO

Exactly, did she have a couple of good friends that she confided in? Was there something she saw in her BF that concerned her? Everyone has been so quiet!

 

[MissD]

Okay here are some photos taken the night before last that can give you a better idea of what Allison's house was like at night. These were taken with a flash on my iPhone Six Plus. Not the best quality but still you can get a good idea. Also, they were taken earlier than the night I was there on the New Moon. There was more light for two reasons. More lights were still on outside at neighboring homes and also, the moon was visible, still a crescent but casting light in the sky and reflecting on the neighborhood.

Okay for the pics:



This pic shows the west side of Allison's from the front. Trying to give you a perspective of what Allison's home was like to someone looking at it from the outside. No wall at the front to keep someone from attempting to look in side windows, etc. I don't know what that side window is actually. It could be a bathroom or a bedroom.



In this pic you can basically see that Allison has no large lantern or anything at the entry of her home. Also, you can see part of the front picture window in Allison's living room. I find it interesting to note that now you can see right into the house. For some reason there are no drapes or blinds down. I wonder if they were disposed of for some reason. But before, in all photos I've seen, including the VDay photo, you can see there was some kind of sheer drape and also it appears to perhaps have some kind of blinds down that particular day.



This is the alley across the street from the front of Allison's house. I hadn't noticed it the first time I was there because, quite frankly, it was just that darn dark that night. It really creeped me out when I saw it this time. It would have made a very good escape route for someone wanting to get away quick without being spotted. imo.



This is a hole in the design of the wall in back of Allison's in the alley where one could conceivably (easily) peek through and watch everything going on back there. Also see into her house possibly.



A closeup of the design with holes you can see through on top of the wall behind allison's home.

I will have to continue these pics in the next post because it won't let me post anymore pics in this one.

 

[Bernina]

That's right which leads me back to someone who was comfortable in her house and knew no one else would be coming over. I just can't see an intruder spending so much time in the house. Jmo

The homes in that area have one of maybe 4-5 floor plans, I believe they were built in the 50's and lots of Motorola employees lived in that general area. They might have been renovated to open the floor plan a bit, but they're basically similar. And any wall you wanted to knock out was usually a "load bearing wall" so upgrades where on the windows, bathrooms and kitchens, get rid of the "popcorn" on the ceiling, and do something with the floor, most of those homes were built on concrete slabs. Talking some serious retro avocado, almond, and sunflower colored appliances, that off white laminate with sparkles for the kitchen and maybe the bath, and yellow or pink tile in the bathrooms with tubs and sinks to match, shag carpeting and some cheesy rolled linoleum. And kitschy wallpaper.
AF's place looks like they gutted it before remodeling.

 

[MissD]

Here's more photos:



This is the wall behind Allison's home. It isn't very high. I was shocked to see that it didn't even appear to be six feet high. Maybe 5 1/2 feet. Much lower than her neighbor to the east, which it appears their wall has been raised. A tall guy could easily see over it. or most definitely through it. I could easily see through it.



In this pic you see the wall and one of those little utility things that the cable companies use and it's right by her wall. One could so easily step on it and just climb right over.



This photo of Allison's backyard at night was taken through one of those holes at the top of her wall. It was from one side of her backyard. One could easily go up and down the wall the entire length of the wall looking in if they wanted to. If her interior lights were on it would be easy to see everything she was doing, possibly. imo

Those are the photos I got the other night I feel I can post within TOS.

I hope they give you a better idea of what it was like at Allison's house.

 

[MissD]

The homes in that area have one of maybe 4-5 floor plans, I believe they were built in the 50's and lots of Motorola employees lived in that general area. They might have been renovated to open the floor plan a bit, but they're basically similar. And any wall you wanted to knock out was usually a "load bearing wall" so upgrades where on the windows, bathrooms and kitchens, get rid of the "popcorn" on the ceiling, and do something with the floor, most of those homes were built on concrete slabs. Talking some serious retro avocado, almond, and sunflower colored appliances, that off white laminate with sparkles for the kitchen and maybe the bath, and yellow or pink tile in the bathrooms with tubs and sinks to match, shag carpeting and some cheesy rolled linoleum. And kitschy wallpaper.
AF's place looks like they gutted it before remodeling.

Yeah they pretty much did!

The entry to the home is open...part of the living room. You can see that in the Redfin listing of the home, which I don't have at my disposal at the moment.

So, the 'main hallway' reffered to in the leaked court docs was probably the hallway going back to the bedrooms.

 

[Luvrosco]

The alley is scary looking.

 

[MissD]

There are pictures of the interior of her house and my hallway thought was initially right inside the door BUT I honestly have nothing to base that on b/c we don't know any details of the crime scene.

Another thought I still have that lingers is what were Allison's days like between the 14th and the murder day? We don't have much of a timeline here. Did she work on Monday and Tuesday? Was she seen on those days and if so did she indicate ANYTHING out of the ordinary? I know we have the "conversation" with her mom the night of the murder but what about her friends and co-workers? I'm just so curious if anyone may have a clue that they aren't even realizing can be a clue. Just a conversation in passing. Most of us don't treat every day routines or conversations like it's the very last one. JMO

We know that Allison had been out of town on business and returned the Friday before Valentine's Day. I've had a sales job in the past where I had to travel a lot. Generally speaking when salesmen/woman have those kinds of jobs they normally have a little time off when they return home. She was preparing to go out of the country to the Bahamas for a Sales Convention the coming weekend.

My thoughts are she took Monday and Tuesday off to run personal errands, do some shopping (her parents mentioned a new dress) stuff around the house, things like that.

She has a cousin who lives her but I don't think she saw her that much. They got together but not that weekend or on Monday or Tuesday. The cousin was interviewed.

I somehow got the feeling that the BF was there over the weekend and she sent him home to study and have quiet time (it was reported by her sister). I assumed it was on Tuesday, but in retrospect it could have been sometime over the weekend, even Sunday night.

As for a clue as to what happened. Even if she confided in her cousin or best friend or parents about most everything it's possible something happened she didn't have time to tell them about. Maybe something that happened over the weekend. Maybe even something she didn't want them to know.

As much as we like to think our kids tell us everything. They don't.

 

[nancydrew71]

That alley IS scary looking. I would not have wanted to live there alone. It almost makes me upset that anyone would have let her buy this home.