AZ AZ - Allison Feldman, 31, Scottsdale, 18 Feb 2015 #2

[volcarm]

I think it was a crush. When we were looking at the photo a while back, it dawned on me that these could be two separate gifts - one is the flowers in the vase/present and the other is the champagne and the unwrapped flowers. I think they were left on her porch or something like that. It would also explain why the champagne was never opened and the flowers never put in a vase. I also think the present contained the Tiffany bracelet (and it was from her BF and taken by the crush, and which is why LE knew it was missing). This crush knew she liked tulips too, as did her boyfriend. Stealing the iPhone and a few credit cards was a ruse to make it look like a robbery too and probably an afterthought.

It also explains why she sent her BF home that night, so she could deal with this person once and for good. And why this person knew that her BF wasn't coming back that night. LE alluded to another person early on into the investigation. They also made a big deal about finding the DNA and making sure the media reported on that - ruffle some feathers of someone.

Odd that she would get the same exact type and color of flower from 2 different people?

 

[volcarm]

a few more thoughts...

Let's say Allison's father's text did not go through at 10pm Arizona time, and let's say this is because the phone was broken at that time by the killer; I would think the phone company would know EXACTLY what time the phone died, which would be close to the time of Allison's death. So this person just killed Allison, and is in the house for around 3 hours, after having broken her phone. How does this person know the boyfriend does not send a goodnight text to his soon to be Fiance every night (I used to send them to my Fiance every night)? For all this person knows, the boyfriend receives a text EVER night from Allison, and if he does not get one, he might drive over to the house, and possibly lives close? It would be very risky for the killer to break the phone, and hang out for 3 hours in the house afterwards.

So let's say the phone was not broken, and merely turned off (not sure how the father's text would not go through with this scenario). The killer would take the phone with him, and then probably break it somewhere. The phone company would know what time the signal stopped, but not much else.

If for some reason the killer did not destroy the phone, and tossed it somewhere, that phone could be pinged and located, and any near bye video cameras could be checked for a suspect, or his/her car. The phone could really give some clues.

Do we know for sure the killer was in the house for 3 hours? Could Allison have turned off her phone at 10 pm on her own? What other evidence shoes that the killer was in the house way before 1am?

 

[MissD]

My thoughts on the Valentine's photograph:

-Allison seemed to have been a very organized and neat person. She doesn't seem sloppy at all.
-The presentation of the items in the photograph leaves much to be desired, in my opinion.
-Indeed, it seems to me that the bottle would be facing front and center, and ALL the flowers in the vase (much prettier and impressive).
-The gift bag is sideways and you can barely see it for the card.
-The card does seem to have feminine writing on it, or in any event it has a smiley face on it that I simply cannot imagine any man drawing.
-The presentation appears to me to have either been done by a man or to have been done in a hurry.
-Do we know for sure these were for Valentine's Day?
-Does the writing on the card say "Thinking of you?"

Thoughts on the crime:

- Crimes of passion would seem to involve a person who is enraged. Rage is a secondary emotion -- behind all anger is fear, so they say. Fear of what? Humiliation, abandonment, embarrassment, loss of status, loss of standing, etc.? I think a certain possessiveness might be behind this crime.
- It seems unlikely to me that a stranger or even a stalker would be so enraged. If that is the case, I would expect Allison's death to be one among others.

Thoughts on the Tiffany bracelet:

- Is it possible that the police intentionally gave misleading information in order to fake out the perp? Perhaps the bracelet was not taken but was instead on display at the crime scene? In this case, how long would the perp be able to keep from revealing himself by saying, in effect, "no, her bracelet was there when I left!"
- Is it possible Allison and the BF broke up over the Tiffany bracelet? Or rather, the significance of the bracelet? Maybe a previous boyfriend gave it to her for Valentine's, and BF found out and wanted her to get rid of it or stop wearing it, but she refused? BF might have considered this an act of disloyalty?
- Perhaps all the talk about the bracelet is just LE trying to get the perp to incriminate himself by revealing a little too much knowledge?

Thoughts about the cameras and sighting:

- Why would police announce that they had video of the perp leaving at 1am? If someone known to her is indeed involved, wouldn't he/she be tipped off that LE was on to them? But that's assuming LE is being honest regarding the video.
- Is it possible LE gave a purposely inaccurate time for the perp's departure for the same reasons discussed above re the bracelet?
- If LE has video of the BF arriving to find her body, and the perp departing at 1am, do they also have video of the BF leaving and the perp arriving? Why wouldn't they? Would the perp and/or BF BOTH have come in one entrance and departed another?

Thoughts in general:

- Is it possible that an old flame HAD recently re-entered her life and she was having misgivings about BF -- or not? But perhaps there was pursuit by a previous BF, and current BF misunderstood and they fought and/or broke up?
- It seems to me the only conceivable reason the champagne would have been placed in the window is to get it out of the way. Again, something I just can't see Allison doing.

As always, these things are all JMO...

I like the way you think.

 

[Traymar]

I like the way you think.

Thank you, Miss D. As you can see, I have lots of questions, but no answers.

 

[MissD]

Do we know for sure the killer was in the house for 3 hours? Could Allison have turned off her phone at 10 pm on her own? What other evidence shoes that the killer was in the house way before 1am?

BBM: No, it's possible he could have been in there longer. She was last known to have texted or spoken with her mother at 8:00 p.m. Minnesota time, which would have been 7:00 p.m. AZ time. So conceivably, the killer could have actually been in the house for 5 hours given the timeline of known call, text & perp's departure.

 

[MissD]

Thank you, Miss D. As you can see, I have lots of questions, but no answers.

Yes Traymar, as we all do. But the way you process the information you do have is very interesting.

 

[armcha1r_detect1ve]

Ok, all caught up and still feel like I/We are at square one.

On AF's Father saying the text was not delivered:

AF had an iPhone. If her Dad also has an iPhone or was using an iPad or Mac they would have likely been talking over iMessage. iMessage, transmitted over data and not shown on cell records, show the delivery status of sent/received messages and will show "Delivered" if the message is received and can show "Read at [time]" if the receiver has read receipts turned on. This is likely how he determined the message was not delivered. The only reasons messages are not delivered: Their phone is off, is out of battery (off), or is out of cell range and/or (wifi).

On the taking of the bracelet and phone:

Phone: Taken to destroy evidence. If the family has put it in lost mode and the phone has been or is ever powered back on it will be pinged immediately and location will be sent to Apple servers.

Bracelet: Memento for the killer to remember his victim by, like a sick keepsake.

LE has released next to nothing in terms of information. Why? They have someone in mind? Why not release the video evidence? Why not tell us more about the DNA profile?

Is it possible AF was having an affair?

 

[MissD]

Ok, all caught up and still feel like I/We are at square one.

On AF's Father saying the text was not delivered:

AF had an iPhone. If her Dad also has an iPhone or was using an iPad or Mac they would have likely been talking over iMessage. iMessage, transmitted over data and not shown on cell records, show the delivery status of sent/received messages and will show "Delivered" if the message is received and can show "Read at [time]" if the receiver has read receipts turned on. This is likely how he determined the message was not delivered. The only reasons messages are not delivered: Their phone is off, is out of battery (off), or is out of cell range and/or (wifi).

On the taking of the bracelet and phone:

Phone: Taken to destroy evidence. If the family has put it in lost mode and the phone has been or is ever powered back on it will be pinged immediately and location will be sent to Apple servers.

Bracelet: Memento for the killer to remember his victim by, like a sick keepsake.

LE has released next to nothing in terms of information. Why? They have someone in mind? Why not release the video evidence? Why not tell us more about the DNA profile?

Is it possible AF was having an affair?

First...thank you for your thoughts and for posting them here on Allison's thread. The more thoughts and theories and people with good reasoning and logic skills the better. You are so welcome here!

Secondly...thank you for explaining the reason the dad knew his text had not been delivered. I agree with just about everything you posted.

I do want to address certain items BBM:

The "Delivered" and "Read at [time]" are what most people here are having a difficult time grasping. I have an iPhone and use iMessage so I am familiar with what you are saying. Hopefully your explanation will help those who have androids to understand.

As for the bracelet - you may be quite correct but why is it that LE has released this info when they've released so little of anything else. Does that make any sense?

In fact, I have never heard of a case where LE has released so little info. We wouldn't even know 90 percent of what we do know if it hadn't been that the SPD (Scottsdale Police Dept) forgot to seal some very important court documents that got leaked to the press. When the news sources reported on them SPD had a literal fit and had them scrubbed from the web. Traces remain still....

They ask for our help with the bracelet, but they don't act like they really want our help and they surely don't want our interference. So why is this? In your opinion.

"Is it possible AF was having an affair?" That's a tough one. She seemed to love him (her BF) very much. There might have been someone in her past she had to cut ties with who was giving her a hard time, but I can't see her cheating on the guy she obviously worshipped.

In fact both of them seemed very much in love. And their love seemed very, extremely intense.

Maybe, in fact, too intense.

 

[MissD]

You know, I was just thinking about how wonderful it is that Allison's friends have all come to her Facebook page to post memories and photos of times they spent together. They have all come together to comfort one another through posting photos of times they spent with Allison and recounting stories of good times they shared.

And then it dawned on me. None of the BFs friends have come to his page to post how sorry they are for his loss. I know he had friends who knew Allison. I wonder why that is. It just seems very strange to me.

Maybe it's his privacy settings.

:thinking:

 

[ModMaiden]

I have always felt that Valentine's picture was odd. In fact, I believe I was blunt enough to say photoshopped. There are a few areas that seem strange leading me to question it. Even the main window with the blinds is creepy looking. Looking at that countertop I question that unusual sharp corner and angle. Now looking at that beige strip with the curve makes me wonder what is that. Is that connected to the counter or an oddly shaped plastic piece?

Now when looking at the flowers in the vase and zooming closer on the far right one, you can see bleeding from the pink colors like it's pixelated. Look closer at the area surrounding that flower and notice that pink well away from that flower. That doesn't seem correct. If you look in the opening between the 3 flowers to the right and 8 to the left at the floor, you will see the seams are deeper and don't appear to line up like rest of the floor. It appears as if it's two pictures imposed on one another. There are other things that seem odd but looking around that room some parts jump out at me.

My understanding of 11 flowers is it means: You're my treasured one. To assure someone that he or she is truly and deeply loved.
There are at least 8 visible stems in the flowers not in the vase on the counter. Eight flowers has no meaning at all that I know of.

MissD, thank you for the photos and your devotion of seeing Allison get justice. Please be careful when around her home, in case it does turn out to be one of neighbors. Never know who might be watching you so stay safe. It's good you haven't been going alone while doing some footwork investigating. You and the others have provided a lot of information, which I am grateful for.

 

[MissD]

I have always felt that Valentine's picture was odd. In fact, I believe I was blunt enough to say photoshopped. There are a few areas that seem strange leading me to question it. Even the main window with the blinds is creepy looking. Looking at that countertop I question that unusual sharp corner and angle. Now looking at that beige strip with the curve makes me wonder what is that. Is that connected to the counter or an oddly shaped plastic piece?

Now when looking at the flowers in the vase and zooming closer on the far right one, you can see bleeding from the pink colors like it's pixelated. Look closer at the area surrounding that flower and notice that pink well away from that flower. That doesn't seem correct. If you look in the opening between the 3 flowers to the right and 8 to the left at the floor, you will see the seams are deeper and don't appear to line up like rest of the floor. It appears as if it's two pictures imposed on one another. There are other things that seem odd but looking around that room some parts jump out at me.

My understanding of 11 flowers is it means: You're my treasured one. To assure someone that he or she is truly and deeply loved.
There are at least 8 visible stems in the flowers not in the vase on the counter. Eight flowers has no meaning at all that I know of.

MissD, thank you for the photos and your devotion of seeing Allison get justice. Please be careful when around her home, in case it does turn out to be one of neighbors. Never know who might be watching you so stay safe. It's good you haven't been going alone while doing some footwork investigating. You and the others have provided a lot of information, which I am grateful for.

Hi ModMaiden! And thank you so much for posting tonight. I want to come back to this post and reply again to some other things you said, but first I want to go right now and re-examine that Valentine's Day pic.

I want to see just exactly what it is you are referring to with the sharp corner and angle of the counter top and also what you said about things not being lined up in between the flowers...to do with the floor.

That's brilliant you observed that. Could it be that photo was photoshopped as you have speculated?

Great observations on your part. The sharp corner of the counter really makes me think too. hmmmmm

Thanks again so much and believe me, I am very happy that I live where I can go over to Allison's and take photos to share them with those of you who don't live here, not even in the state. And I'm so grateful for your interest in this case.

I'll post my findings tomorrow.

TYSM ModMaiden

 

[enzeder]

I have always felt that Valentine's picture was odd. In fact, I believe I was blunt enough to say photoshopped. There are a few areas that seem strange leading me to question it. Even the main window with the blinds is creepy looking. Looking at that countertop I question that unusual sharp corner and angle. Now looking at that beige strip with the curve makes me wonder what is that. Is that connected to the counter or an oddly shaped plastic piece?

Now when looking at the flowers in the vase and zooming closer on the far right one, you can see bleeding from the pink colors like it's pixelated. Look closer at the area surrounding that flower and notice that pink well away from that flower. That doesn't seem correct. If you look in the opening between the 3 flowers to the right and 8 to the left at the floor, you will see the seams are deeper and don't appear to line up like rest of the floor. It appears as if it's two pictures imposed on one another. There are other things that seem odd but looking around that room some parts jump out at me.

My understanding of 11 flowers is it means: You're my treasured one. To assure someone that he or she is truly and deeply loved.
There are at least 8 visible stems in the flowers not in the vase on the counter. Eight flowers has no meaning at all that I know of.

MissD, thank you for the photos and your devotion of seeing Allison get justice. Please be careful when around her home, in case it does turn out to be one of neighbors. Never know who might be watching you so stay safe. It's good you haven't been going alone while doing some footwork investigating. You and the others have provided a lot of information, which I am grateful for.

BBM - Regarding "that beige strip with the curve" - I'm thinking that what you may be referring to are actually the steps leading into the kitchen/dining area from main living area?. I may be wrong though?.

Steps leading to kitchen area.
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[MissD]

BBM - Regarding "that beige strip with the curve" - I'm thinking that what you may be referring to are actually the steps leading into the kitchen/dining area from main living area?. I may be wrong though?.

Steps leading to kitchen
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Hey Enzed...been missing you!

Thanks for the links to the listing. I can't find mine. And here you are again...to the rescue! LOL!

I was looking at that pic again and the same thing hit me that did the first time I looked at it - the framed print on the wall by the picture window. The one of Allison dancing with someone.

And I zoomed in and noticed something I hadn't seen before.

Will you take a look at it and tell me what you see...if anything?

I'm going to post it in a separate post, below this one.

 

[MissD]

I was looking at the Valentine's Day photo and then again at the framed print on the wall, just thinking about it. There's always been something about it that caught my attention, basically that it looked like her and the date she had a couple of New Year's Eves back.

But this is what I saw this time. A reflection. I could see that the kitchen window was partially reflecting in that picture. And so I began to look more closely.

Can you see what I see? It looks like the reflection of a woman at the bottom right of the picture. She appears to have blonde hair. Can you see it? I've circled it in red.

I hope you can see what I'm seeing.

 

[MissD]

YW MissD! - What should I be looking at in the pic? - the bench you mean?.

No, it's a reflection in that picture. Reflecting from across the room. And it looks like a woman standing behind the counter. Can't you see it?

 

[enzeder]

No, it's a reflection in that picture. Reflecting from across the room. And it looks like a woman standing behind the counter. Can't you see it?

Oops - I deleted my comment because I saw you'd posted what to look for. Going to check now.

 

[MissD]

Oops - I deleted my comment because I saw you'd posted what to look for. Going to check now.

Thanks! If you look at the entire room with the framed picture on the wall you can see how it's directly across from the counter with the flowers, etc. So I think that picture might be hiding a secret....the reflection of the person who took the VDay pic!

:O

 

[MissD]

Hey Enz! I have to go hit the sack. I'm falling asleep on my keyboard. I'll look in the morning to see if you could see what I am seeing.

I hope you have some kind of good software that can maybe enhance it. Unfortunately I don't.

I'll wait just a few more minutes....

 

[enzeder]

Thanks! If you look at the entire room with the framed picture on the wall you can see how it's directly across from the counter with the flowers, etc. So I think that picture might be hiding a secret....the reflection of the person who took the VDay pic!

:O

I've been looking - I can't make out what you're referring to but I'll keep trying. I'm seeing a man's face actually. Then again, I might just be imagining it?.

 

[MissD]

I've been looking - I can't make out what you're referring to but I'll keep trying. I'm seeing a man's face actually.

Well, maybe it is a man. Thanks so much. Please let us find something in this!

Goodnight hon! Cya tomorrow!

xox