AZ - Brandon Werner, 41, dies after suspicious hospital visitor, Phoenix, 30 August 2019

[siliconrod]

Looking to see if there are any updates on the mystery man who visited Brandon shortly before he died in the hospital.

 

[claudianunes]

People can just walk up to the hospital and visit whoever? They don't sign at the front desk? Weird.

 

[OhioBlues]

People can just walk up to the hospital and visit whoever? They don't sign at the front desk? Weird.

That has been my experience as a visitor and patient with the exception of one hospital.

 

[neesaki]

I'm curious about why someone would be in the hospital for an entire week for diabetes issues. If he's ok enough to talk on the phone with friends- usually it's stabilize the blood sugar and hit the road. There is more to this than meets the eye. Obviously

The only thing I can think of is if he was in kidney failure or something like that. Other than that I have no idea. It’s a Mystery.

 

[neesaki]

In this news video, there is a sketch of the POI, hoping someone could identify him:

Police identify hospital patient who died shortly after visit from 'suspicious' man

There’s a sketch? TIA

 

[neesaki]

Thinking back, can’t an insulin over dose cause foaming at the mouth? Could he have been given too much insulin? Purposely?

 

[Coppertop15]

Too much insulin can cause seizures and death. Not sure about foaming.

 

[LadyL]

such a bizarre case
makes me wonder if he was an informant and someone found out ... JUST SPECULATING

 

[neesaki]

Thinking back, can’t an insulin over dose cause foaming at the mouth? Could he have been given too much insulin? Purposely?

Too much insulin can cause seizures and death. Not sure about foaming.

So insulin overdose can cause seizures which in turn can cause foaming at the mouth.
Foaming at the Mouth: Caused by Overdose, Seizures, and Rabies

Foamy saliva can occur during a seizure because the mouth is forced closed, which stimulates the salivary glands and makes you produce extra spit. When the mouth opens again, drool or frothy saliva can come out.

Why killers, including Megan Haines, turned to insulin

BEVERLY Allitt. Victorino Chua. Megan Haines. They all have a couple of things in common.

They all do the same work for a living. Actually, they did the same work for a living before they found themselves serving life sentences for murder.

They all used the same sadistic method to end the lives of their victims — they drugged them with insulin and waited for the brain to stop functioning and for the heart to follow.

 

[Cryptic]

People can just walk up to the hospital and visit whoever? They don't sign at the front desk? Weird.

People can just walk up to the hospital and visit whoever? They don't sign at the front desk? Weird.

None of the hospitals that have recently visited required visitors to sign ins either.

In addition, they readily provided ward and floor information when I called about my friends. This seems to be in contrast to earlier years where at least token sign ins were required and information not readily provided.

That aside, I think it is more likely that the apparent victim would not widely circulate the room and ward where he was. Rather, most friends and family would just know that he was at hospital "H".

This could mean that the visitor called the hospital or inquired at a desk. If he called, perhaps the hospital's "big brain" computer records call back numbers, at least for a while?

 

[Kittybunny]

Based on some Forensic Files episodes I've seen, I was thinking initial hospital visit was purposefully caused by someone trying to bump him off; then when that didn't work, they or a hit man was sent in to the finish the job. Is he married? Is his wife a nurse? (I know, no sleuthing family).

Totally far-fetched, I know. Just one possibility, albeit remote.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

It's about 3 weeks later ... is there going to be an autopsy?

 

[JerseyGirl]

There’s a sketch? TIA

I could have swore I saw one in a news video but haven't seen anything since.

 

[LadyL]

People can just walk up to the hospital and visit whoever? They don't sign at the front desk? Weird.

I've never been in a hospital that required sign-in and I've been in/visited a lot of hospitals. Have never even heard of that actually. That would be near impossible in the huge hospitals around here.

 

[Scoutce]

I've never been in a hospital that required sign-in and I've been in/visited a lot of hospitals. Have never even heard of that actually. That would be near impossible in the huge hospitals around here.

I have been in a children’s hospital that required sign in and a code that had to be given to you by the parents/guardians. Other than that, I have never been to a hospital and had to sign in.

 

[LadyL]

I have been in a children’s hospital that required sign in and a code that had to be given to you by the parents/guardians. Other than that, I have never been to a hospital and had to sign in.

oh yeah I forgot - the children's ICU had that but once they knew you, they just let you in

 

[enter_a_name]

I’ve been monitoring the Phoenix news and there are no recent updates. Very peculiar circumstances. Anxious for more information!

 

[katsrfun]

I've never been in a hospital that required sign-in and I've been in/visited a lot of hospitals. Have never even heard of that actually. That would be near impossible in the huge hospitals around here.

Hello - I worked in a huge inner city hospital and people walked around freely. Also, was a visitor to a young man in ICU in another huge city hospital and we walked into the ICU unaccompanied and with no sign in, and there were about six other visitors in the room. I thought this was quite strange. However, recently we visited a friend in a large hospital and we had to get our pictures taken and show ID, which was then added to the picture ID, and we had to turn them in when we left. I guess it just varies. However, in this day and age, I am surprised at the lack of security. At the hospital I worked at, a lady got raped in her room late at night by an unknown visitor. JMO. Thanks, Katt

 

[siliconrod]

I have not seen any updates in regards to the identity of the suspicious hospital visitor or if he was responsible for Brandon's death.

 

[FlossyMay]

One reason someone with diabetes could be hospitalized for days at a time is infection. My DIL has diabetes and was recently in the hospital for a week due to a small infection on her face. They don't heal as quickly or as well as those without the disease.