AZ AZ - Daniel Robinson, 24, remote job site, Buckeye, 23 Jun 2021 #2

[truthmattersnot]

And welcome to Websleuths, @truthmattersnot.

Thank you! I've actually had this account for over a year i just don't post much.

f you do keyword search using the magnifying glass search icon and "coworker" and search "this thread," there has been some discussion of this (his behavior that day).

I know what has been said between the coworker and Daniel, but it doesn't change the fact that Daniel was acting normal that whole morning, up until a few seconds before he drove off, according to that coworker.

Even the police report has the coworker saying nothing Daniel did made him seem like he was under the influence of drugs or having a mental health crisis. There was no evidence of any drugs in Daniels car either, and marijuana was a recreational drug in Arizona, it was regulated. I find the tainted weed story the PI floated to be a stretch.

I smoke weed, i have some mental health problems, it doesn't make go crazy. Especially randomly while I'm at work with no evidence of me smoking in the car.

 

[Skyblueday32]

Im really at a loss. If we believe it was foul play, we'd need a motive and suspect(s). The search would then turn to a search of properties or dumps (which would be almost not successful as so much time has passed). If we believe he was suicidal then I guess the search of the desert where his jeep was found would be logical, it is baffling he/his body has not been located. Such a sadness for his family. Really do hope there mystery is solved one day.

 

[mlhenn]

I know what has been said between the coworker and Daniel, but it doesn't change the fact that Daniel was acting normal that whole morning, up until a few seconds before he drove off, according to that coworker.

Do we know that he was acting normal that entire morning?

 

[mlhenn]

JMO!
This case has seen numerous theories and they range from one extreme to the other. Some theories seem more plausible, sure. The possibilities of what happened to Daniel that day are endless. While I think it’s very productive to discuss theories etc, I also think it’s important to keep the actually facts in mind.

 

[truthmattersnot]

JMO!
This case has seen numerous theories and they range from one extreme to the other. Some theories seem more plausible, sure. The possibilities of what happened to Daniel that day are endless. While I think it’s very productive to discuss theories etc, I also think it’s important to keep the actually facts in mind.

I'm not going to get into theories myself, I'll leave that to other sleuthers.

Daniel made and received multiple calls that morning including a long call with the main boss. He was taking photos of the well logs and was where he was supposed to be that morning up until he drove off.

There is no evidence suggesting Daniel was acting anything but normal up until right before he left the second well site. Speculating that he was unwell, when his own coworker said he seemed normal and no one else that morning reported anything unusual, isn't something I'd feel comfortable doing.

I'd actually much rather go back to talking about Daniel's sock, I'd like to know how other people think it might have gotten there. That's something i don't feel bad speculating about.

 

[moniii455]

What happened to him? If he ran from car in disoriented state i am sure they would found him or his remains. He couldn’t go far away..

 

[moniii455]

If he ran from car in disoriented state i am sure they would found him. He couldn’t gone far away. They started searching for him very fast. Its weird . Same case with Jason laudry dry, Briana Maitland, Brice Laspisa, Jamison Family.

 

[truthmattersnot]

If he ran from car in disoriented state i am sure they would found him. He couldn’t gone far away. They started searching for him very fast. Its weird . Same case with Jason laudry dry, Briana Maitland, Brice Laspisa, Jamison Family.

You would think so, him being naked with no shoes on running around the desert. From google earths perspective there are a bunch of buildings out there, power lines and dirt roads.

How far can a naked guy in 100 degree heat with no water get? I actually think its kind of laughable to think he just wondered off naked, far enough away to where nobody has found him yet, even though there has been something like 100 searches, developments being built and regular people in that area every single day. Searchers also aren't working in wooded area where a body would be easily concealed, quite the opposite really.

Then you have to also think to yourself, when Daniel left the 2nd well site, it was only around 15 minutes until his Jeep crashed. So your telling me, Daniel waved goodbye to Ken, drove for 15 minutes into a ravine, took his clothes off and wandered away? In 15 minutes? No evidence anyone was hurt in the crash, despite police saying Daniel may have had a head injury.

Also, why didn't Ken follow the tracks to the scene of the accident if it was so close and he was already following the tracks to start? Also, if Ken followed the tracks and told police he did, then they could have easily followed them the rest of the way to the ravine, from google earth it seems like its less than a mile or so from where Ken said he stopped searching, that is crazy and frankly unbelievable.

 

[Benthic Depths]

Lot to chew on there, @Bluedreamer . You make a cogent argument.

That said, I was just reading this (don’t think it’s been posted):

The Vanishing Point: The Buckeye desert started giving up its dead, but not Daniel Robinson

There he was murdered. Miles north of Interstate 10, past acres of untouched desert, he was shot in the back of the head. The murderer’s bullet tore through the victim’s brain, exiting through his mouth. A likely scenario for the human skull found in Buckeye, according to the father of missing...

inbuckeye.com

It goes into more detail about the weeks prior to his disappearance and apparent mental health issues. On the one hand, this is the simplest explanation.

On another hand, there are the strange anomalies, the Jeep and the infamous restarts, the rancher who claims it wasn’t in that ravine a few days prior to discovery, the phone calls that morning (which could’ve been something like “I’m quitting”/cries for help/etc; I don’t think we know the contents, do we?)

On the third hand, the kind of corporate conspiracy you’re suggesting as an alternative hypothesis, while possible, also opens up more questions than we can answer or reasonably speculate upon. He calls his supervisor’s supervisor, who happens to know a “fixer”, available on short notice. This fixer is somehow able to get to Buckeye and find Daniel after he leaves the well site at 9am and then <something occurs>. But they leave his phone with the Jeep (why not take it? Easy enough to assume the missing Daniel took it with him, or maybe it got thrown out during the collision and lost in the sands.). Why go rifle through his home computer after he was reported missing (and not just go grab it same day?) Etc.

So while I do think you make a logical argument based on reasonable speculation, I just don’t see how the actual mechanics of such a scheme would work.

If we are talking criminal conspiracy, Conspirator A doesn't call a 'fixer', he calls Conspirator B- the one who knows the job site, has the military background and local government influence?

Him. Conspirator A calls him. (Maybe Conspurator B's security detail, as at a certain level of playing field there are Staff.)

Follow the money- geology firm is not making enough in consulting fees to justify falcifying the well Log. In order to justify that, someone was making $. Look for them, not an unnescessary fixer, who would have just bribed Daniel like so many others.

This? Viral True Crime Looky-lou Disappearance? Is amateur night. A real fixer would never.

 

[Bluedreamer]

If we are talking criminal conspiracy, Conspirator A doesn't call a 'fixer', he calls Conspirator B- the one who knows the job site, has the military background and local government influence?

Him. Conspirator A calls him. (Maybe Conspurator B's security detail, as at a certain level of playing field there are Staff.)

Follow the money- geology firm is not making enough in consulting fees to justify falcifying the well Log. In order to justify that, someone was making $. Look for them, not an unnescessary fixer, who would have just bribed Daniel like so many others.

This? Viral True Crime Looky-lou Disappearance? Is amateur night. A real fixer would never.

I actually struggle with this part of the story and with what I believe happened. In my opinion, the jeep was staged, i think the data, when read correctly, proves that. But I still don't know how it happened or who did it, and i really have no idea how it went down. That being said, i think it's kind of crazy that more people don't seriously look at what Daniel was doing workwise when he disappeared.

The Verrado well should not have qualified for high-capacity withdrawal. It relied on data from 2007–2009, even though its own testing came in at roughly half the performance of those older results, that's a verifiable fact. The Verrado well alone is worth around 20-30 million dollars based on those tainted withdrawal rates. If they were relying on data from 11-14 years prior, what would Daniel’s testing have shown that day in 2021?

Here’s the sequence of events the morning Daniel was at the Verrado well-

• Daniel arrives at the Verrado well
• Immediately takes a photo of the lithology logs
• Calls the head of the Arizona branch, not his direct supervisor
• Stays on that call for eight minutes
• Disappears a few hours later
• logs are completed the very next day, without him

If your looking at this in the lens of foul play, and this is just theory. Daniel has been testing that well for the past week or so that we know of. He gets there on the 23rd, notices someone changed his lithology logs, so he calls the main boss to talk about, who spends 8 minutes telling him everything is ok and explaining that this is how it is.

If someone did get to Daniel that day, I don’t know who it was, I don’t even have a guess. But I do believe someone did. There’s too much smoke in this case for there to be no fire. If Daniel’s tests came back negative, someone could have been facing a loss of 20 to 30 million dollars. And with the Buckeye water model about to be released, while it was actually being finalized in June of 2021, the same month Daniel disappeared, there wouldn’t have been time to pivot to another option. This was also happening during a push to secure as many well approvals as possible before that model came out and restricted future extraction. If they couldn’t control Daniel at the Verrado well, he would become a problem at others.

 

[placard]

Would you happen to have a link to this particular photo? I’m unable to view it on your post.

I googled "missing black man buckeye map" and saw several maps regarding the case