AZ AZ - Daniel Robinson, 24, remote job site, Buckeye, 23 Jun 2021

[Knox]

Thanks @Knox (I got so many bookmarks I couldn't find!)

Your welcome.

I'm only eleven minutes in, but what do you make of the interaction between Daniel and J? This is new info for me and would seem to be indicative of state of mind (Daniel) in terms of the last exchange between the two? Adding, the exchange took place the day before he went missing.

 

[o 0]

It could be he tried to kick out the windshield after he fell into the passenger seat? Somebody chime in if that is even doable...to damage a windshield by kicking? Of course this goes back to @shadwell comment concerning passenger seat airbag deployment...was it made by second passenger? Would it be that damaged by a person if the crash was 30 MPH and the airbag deployed would the force of the person make that much damage.

Does anybody else think the damage on the drivers side (left) could have come from a gate keypad or speaker box?

I was wondering about the passenger air bag deployed also, Would a serious impact or roll deploy all air bags?

The picture posted by @JJ Ray shows an indention on the driver side mirror, almost similar to the impacts on the windshield, but could of been from a roll. Also that deep gouge on the driver side pillar right next to the side mirror does not match the severity of the roll IMO

I was speculating it driven up the ravine, down, smashed the drivers side fender area landed back on all four wheels, smashed on the gas uphill and rolled to its passenger side.

I wonder if investigators checked the suspension for damage.

 

[tarabull]

Link to podcast - True Crime Arizona Podcast: MISSING - The search for Daniel Robinson

^THAT LINK is to the podcast from 6 days ago

THIS ONE (below) is to the podcast from 2 days ago:
Daniel Robinson // 140 (Current!)

 

[Knox]

^THAT LINK is to the podcast from 6 days ago

THIS ONE (below) is to the podcast from 2 days ago:
Daniel Robinson // 140 (Current!)

Can't listen right now. Is there something that disputes or updates the interaction with Jennifer?

 

[MadMcGoo]

I just wanted to share a photo of my SUV after a rollover. Some specifics: I was traveling down an interstate (around 65 mph), fell asleep, went off the roadway and rolled down a small embankment landing upside down. I apparently rolled several times and had to be extricated by the Fire Department. None of that is important, but to put the damage into perspective. I was surprised at how little damage there was given the circumstances. I had nothing more than a few cuts and marks from the seatbelt.

Anyway, Daniel’s SUV damage does not look to me to be solely caused by a rollover. I would think he wasn’t going very fast and didn’t roll too many times. All of this is just my opinion. Also, I think it’s possible for him to walk away unscathed from a rollover. I pretty much did.


(mine, Daniel’s)

 

[Laughing]

@MadMcGoo , glad you recovered from that accident!!!

 

[brooks]

Daniel certainly wasn't acting "off" or "strange" the day he talked to his mother. Praying he is safe and that his parents get the comfort they need.

 

[mlhenn]

Daniel certainly wasn't acting "off" or "strange" the day he talked to his mother. Praying he is safe and that his parents get the comfort they need.

Do you mind elaborating?

 

[brooks]

In the Banfield interview, Daniel's mother discussed her previous conversations with Daniel just prior to his disappearance. While others (maybe work associates) mentioned that he had appeared "off" the day of or the day before his disappearances, this does not appear to be the case in his conversations with his Mom.

IMO

 

[JJ Ray]

Your welcome.

I'm only eleven minutes in, but what do you make of the interaction between Daniel and J? This is new info for me and would seem to be indicative of state of mind (Daniel) in terms of the last exchange between the two? Adding, the exchange took place the day before he went missing.

You mean K? (I use K too and not C...don't know which it is...)
MOO
The whole quote is both optimistic and pessimistic IMO. He 's definitely struggling to me to make sense of how he can feel so deeply about someone and at the same time they are not interested. I also go back to David's description and more recent interviews where he says both he and David are "go-getters", didn't let his alternate ability slow him down. He previously, originally described him as "outspoken" which is not the same as, "outgoing" which I understand he also was. I think he could be stubborn or simply has not learned to take "no" for an answer. And in this case he was being forced to.
I also wonder why it was important for K to admit to the police her and her friend were drunk when inviting him in? I also wonder if that might have something to do with other "hangouts" or a more intimate relationship than K divulged? I don't know if the reporter was omitting the exact timeline for length or the police summarized it that way in their report. And how did the canopy get over there unless he let her borrow. You don't "accidently" leave a canopy...you accidently forget to take it with you, then go back to get it. I doubt he lent her a canopy that happened to be in his car when he delivered the food. I also wonder what Daniel's relationship experience has been in the past?
AMOO

 

[mlhenn]

Search down mineshafts turns up nothing in Daniel Robinson case | 12news.com

The Buckeye Police Department has begun looking down old mineshafts for any trace of Daniel Robinson, the missing geologist who hasn't been seen since leaving a remote worksite on June 23.

Buckeye police said investigators have been conducting "targeted searches" this week at locations where volunteers reported search dogs detecting something suspicious. Searches in those areas didn't yield any new information, police said.

On Thursday, Buckeye police said investigators used robotic technology to check two mineshafts -- one of which was nearly 75 feet deep -- for any trace of Robinson.

Investigators said their searches didn't turn up anything and encouraged the public to call 623-349-6400 with any new information concerning Robinson.

 

[mlhenn]

Parents of missing Daniel Robinson speak out

I’m sorry but I’m really starting to get confused (ok, more like question some of the info being shared in media). Merely my opinion and I mean no disrespect but some of the info being shared is contradicting itself.
For example: one article I posted last night the PI stated LE handed everything they had over to him.
But now in this article (linked above) the father is stating LE won’t share anything with them.
There’s other contradictions as well (like when LE first searched).
Again, no disrespect and I get emotions are running high, but I really wish accurate info would be shared; IMO, it’s very important in helping find Daniel.

 

[mlhenn]

Parents of missing Daniel Robinson speak out

There have been reports that Daniel Robinson may have been struggling with his mental health prior to his disappearance. His mother is uncomfortable with the speculation surrounding that idea.

“You cannot speak for someone and say you know a person until you’ve been around them long enough to say they’re having a problem,” Edmonds said.

However….

A timeline of the disappearance of Daniel Robinson, a 24-year-old geologist in Arizona


Robinson's friends and family reported odd behavior in the weeks leading up to his disappearance (dad, sister)

 

[JJ Ray]

In the Banfield interview, Daniel's mother discussed her previous conversations with Daniel just prior to his disappearance. While others (maybe work associates) mentioned that he had appeared "off" the day of or the day before his disappearances, this does not appear to be the case in his conversations with his Mom.

IMO

MOO
Oh how often I held back with my mom at that age.....My experience only!!! (we weren't that close at the time).

David continues to say his Fathers Day conversation with Daniel was "normal" other than "being interested in a girl" (WISTV story in late July). However to police in Late June David said "he said he was in love with a girl" but "he didn't seem to know a lot about her which was strange" (police interview/ AZ FAMILY podcast).

I would suggest you watch some of the other interviews posted upthread and on the internet that focus on Buckeye report and what the contractor, family, and co-workers stated to police and not just the reporters previous summary of he was "off". Also bear in mind the narrative of Daniel's mental health will not get the media play that the current route has gotten them. Not sure if I wasn't in their shoes I'd do the same. But facts are facts and despite all efforts to erase truth in todays world, I strive to understand all sides of "truth", but naively follow ALL facts where they lead.

 

[JJ Ray]

@MadMcGoo
Thanks for the story and photos. The PI (despite early PD PIO bulletin listing "rolling") determined Daniel's vehicle never "rolled over", just rolled onto it's passenger side. So yes the probability of severe injury is limited.

you accident looks pretty gnarly....glad you were okay.

 

[Knox]

You mean K? (I use K too and not C...don't know which it is...)
MOO
The whole quote is both optimistic and pessimistic IMO. He 's definitely struggling to me to make sense of how he can feel so deeply about someone and at the same time they are not interested. I also go back to David's description and more recent interviews where he says both he and David are "go-getters", didn't let his alternate ability slow him down. He previously, originally described him as "outspoken" which is not the same as, "outgoing" which I understand he also was. I think he could be stubborn or simply has not learned to take "no" for an answer. And in this case he was being forced to.
I also wonder why it was important for K to admit to the police her and her friend were drunk when inviting him in? I also wonder if that might have something to do with other "hangouts" or a more intimate relationship than K divulged? I don't know if the reporter was omitting the exact timeline for length or the police summarized it that way in their report. And how did the canopy get over there unless he let her borrow. You don't "accidently" leave a canopy...you accidently forget to take it with you, then go back to get it. I doubt he lent her a canopy that happened to be in his car when he delivered the food. I also wonder what Daniel's relationship experience has been in the past?
AMOO

Yes sorry K, not sure where I got J

My thought on the drinking was to explain why they invited an "insta-cart" stranger into their home.

Given that David said Daniel called him and was asking relationship questions, i.e, "how do you know when you love a girl". I gathered he hadn't really had a relationship before.

The canopy - yes that is curious. Maybe that was just an excuse to come back to the house, get to know her better.

 

[JJ Ray]

Can't listen right now. Is there something that disputes or updates the interaction with Jennifer?

The AZ Family podcast identifies the woman Daniel is interested in as Kaitlyn (not sure of spelling) not Jennifer. There are a lot of "podcasts" coming out like that dude in his Kitchen from News Nation Now interview. the Going West is trash IMO. They are looking at Google Maps (2 yr old images and making comments based on news articles and not even accurate ones.

 

[JJ Ray]

Yes sorry K, not sure where I got J

My thought on the drinking was to explain why they invited an "insta-cart" stranger into their home.

Given that David said Daniel called him and was asking relationship questions, i.e, "how do you know when you love a girl". I gathered he hadn't really had a relationship before.

The canopy - yes that is curious. Maybe that was just an excuse to come back to the house, get to know her better.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

 

[JJ Ray]

^THAT LINK is to the podcast from 6 days ago

THIS ONE (below) is to the podcast from 2 days ago:
Daniel Robinson // 140 (Current!)

This one is trash IMO. They are reading from inaccurate reporting and also drawing conclusions from 2 yr old goggle map images and their own internet look ups. For example they "inform" the audience that "drilling' is used to extract gas and oil from the ground, forgetting all about water that they previously mentioned as work a hydrologist would do. Also (from erroneous reporting weeks ago) they state Daniel has an Archeology Degree. He has a Geology degree. His sister Davie has the Archeology degree. I could literal spend the next 20 minutes breaking it down. The shade they throw at Ken Elliot is purely for theater. Do they really think Buckeye didn't do due diligence on him? Anything and everybody all in for a "click" bait.

 

[Knox]

Parents of missing Daniel Robinson speak out

There have been reports that Daniel Robinson may have been struggling with his mental health prior to his disappearance. His mother is uncomfortable with the speculation surrounding that idea.

“You cannot speak for someone and say you know a person until you’ve been around them long enough to say they’re having a problem,” Edmonds said.

However….

A timeline of the disappearance of Daniel Robinson, a 24-year-old geologist in Arizona


Robinson's friends and family reported odd behavior in the weeks leading up to his disappearance (dad, sister)

In the podcast I linked, David said he did not call Daniel's Mom until later. The reason he gave, "she's more emotional than we are". Not sure what that meant if anything, but I understand his Mom's feelings. She's protective of him.

The article you linked clearly points to something being wrong with Daniel leading up to when he went missing. Not just one person, but several point out he was not himself. There could have been undiagnosed physical reasons he was acting differently, not simply a MH crisis as one would think. Had he been to a Dr. recently, been prescribed any medications? Was he experimenting with any supplements?

After learning this new information, for the first time I'm seriously considering Daniel may be alive somewhere.