AZ AZ - Daniel Robinson, 24, remote job site, Buckeye, 23 Jun 2021

[Kyshoegal]

His dad hired a PI who said the information from the black box on his Jeep indicated it had been rolled, then driven, then rolled again? Looking for the link to share. It’s a very curious case

 

[mlhenn]

His dad hired a PI who said the information from the black box on his Jeep indicated it had been rolled, then driven, then rolled again? Looking for the link to share. It’s a very curious case

Here’s the article; summering of findings are posted upthread.

Private investigator says evidence doesn't add up for missing man | 12news.com

 

[Laughing]

The pics from Buckeye PD's Twitter in that article are interesting. It's clear to see clothing, but there is something else I can't make out to the northeast of the vehicle.

https://twitter.com/BuckeyeAZPD/status/1438703650587623425?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1438703650587623425|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://ktar.com/story/4690216/crews-searching-desert-area-for-phoenix-man-find-somebody-elses-skull/

Looks like trim from around a car window to me, might be from Daniel's Jeep, might not.

I didn't look closely at the Jeep, no idea where it was last upright/path to the location we see in the images.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[JJ Ray]

Was Daniel supposed to be staying at the job site overnight? How long was he scheduled to remain there? Did he leave early before completing his work?

One day project. He left at 9:15 am. Started raining so there was a pause in their work. Other details in the thread.

 

[JJ Ray]

Looks like trim from around a car window to me, might be from Daniel's Jeep, might not.

I didn't look closely at the Jeep, no idea where it was last upright/path to the location we see in the images.

jmho ymmv lrr

The picture posted by @KatzEye is from the direction of travel (roughly east to west across raw desert.

 

[JJ Ray]

His dad hired a PI who said the information from the black box on his Jeep indicated it had been rolled, then driven, then rolled again? Looking for the link to share. It’s a very curious case

It was not a "rollover" accident. It rolled onto its side after hitting the embankment.

 

[agilbe]

Search for missing geologist Daniel Robinson continues in Buckeye
This on our local news. I'm about 2 hours away.

 

[JJ Ray]

The pics from Buckeye PD's Twitter in that article are interesting. It's clear to see clothing, but there is something else I can't make out to the northeast of the vehicle.

https://twitter.com/BuckeyeAZPD/status/1438703650587623425?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1438703650587623425|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://ktar.com/story/4690216/crews-searching-desert-area-for-phoenix-man-find-somebody-elses-skull/

So I dropped into Photoshop elements but low res thumbnails are lo-res thumbnails (despite all the tech they show on TV shows you can't enhance big square pixels into an actual image)....My first guess is an evidence kit? My question has always been who got stuck in the lower left portion of the ravine?Maybe the rancher who found the vehicle?

 

[nimaathep]

So I dropped into Photoshop elements but low res thumbnails are lo-res thumbnails (despite all the tech they show on TV shows you can't enhance big square pixels into an actual image)....My first guess is an evidence kit? My question has always been who got stuck in the lower left portion of the ravine?Maybe the rancher who found the vehicle?
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my other thought was maybe it was his work kit? I’m an Archaeologist, not a geologist, but some people in my profession carry similar cases in the field for tools.

 

[mlhenn]

So I dropped into Photoshop elements but low res thumbnails are lo-res thumbnails (despite all the tech they show on TV shows you can't enhance big square pixels into an actual image)....My first guess is an evidence kit? My question has always been who got stuck in the lower left portion of the ravine?Maybe the rancher who found the vehicle?
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I’m no expert in any of this, so what it’s worth (if anything) an evidence kit was the first thing that came to mind when I looked at it.

 

[shadwell]

Looks like trim from around a car window to me, might be from Daniel's Jeep, might not.

I didn't look closely at the Jeep, no idea where it was last upright/path to the location we see in the images.

jmho ymmv lrr

My guess would be plastic trim from the front wheel arch on the passenger (right) side.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

Was there any indication of flash flooding or being stuck in an arroyo at the wrong time?

 

[Trackergd]

So I dropped into Photoshop elements but low res thumbnails are lo-res thumbnails (despite all the tech they show on TV shows you can't enhance big square pixels into an actual image)....My first guess is an evidence kit? My question has always been who got stuck in the lower left portion of the ravine?Maybe the rancher who found the vehicle?
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Those are two curious marks that do not fit in with the ground around them. I can't blow them up enough to tell what they are without them going fuzzy. Too big for foot prints. Might be too big for kneeling prints. Also can't see if there are prints going to and from them. I really hate teaser photographs where I can see there is evidence, but it's from too far away to tell what.

 

[Trackergd]

I'm very limited on time for the next three days, but I managed to blow up the portion of the picture that shows the two odd marks. I'm about 90% sure they are "explode off's" (rapid acceleration in a direction causing material from the print to be expelled out the opposite side of the print). There are no visible stones inside the marks and from the one that is not partially obscured by the bush, it appears that the stones are "blown out" the downhill side. This can be done by a human, animal or vehicle. They are close together, but too big for human prints and I don't see a vehicle tire tread pattern in them or leading uphill away from them, but that may be just from the camera field of view. Clothing does not look as neatly placed as a the report lead me to believe. Not sure what the black box with the lid off is. Is it from the Jeep or from the LE team?

 

[swedeheart]

Gray has done a couple of livestreams about this case. One, on Gray Hughes Investigates, and one on his other channel, So Mean, Allegedly (Gray + Chasing Truth).

I have seen this case pick up some steam this past week, so I hope that trend continues!

I'm going to rewatch these since I'm laid up on the couch with a horrible cold. I'll report back if there is anything new in them, but I do remember that both episodes were excellent (for anyone who might be interested). Gray even mentioned hoping to talk to Daniel's mom, so maybe he's working on that.

Starts at 1:45:00

Starts at 47:20.

 

[swedeheart]

From yesterday:

 

[swedeheart]

Rolling Stone:

The Internet Banded Together to Search For Gabby Petito. What About These Missing People of Color?

 

[swedeheart]

This was likely posted already, as it's from Sept 8, but it's an interview with the accident reconstructor, and has all the details about the car in a 2 minute video.

 

[swedeheart]

Today:

Family of missing geologist suspect foul play after their own private investigator joins case

The family of a young geologist missing in Arizona since June after leaving a work site have hired their own private investigator and believe his car - recovered in July with his phone, wallet and keys intact - was dumped in an effort to stage the scene.

 

[swedeheart]

A website his dad has set up.

Please Help Find Daniel - Missing Person, Personal Website