GUILTY AZ - Daniel Rodriguez, 29, fatally shot by Phoenix PD officer, 5 Oct 2010 #2

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Thanks geevee...I cannot believe he did that "joke" or whatever it was on that poor woman...just disgusting. I can understand why the judge is not letting it in, but I think if the jurors see that, it will make a big huge difference in how they view this case.

I went back to the first thread and I was reading the tweets of opening statements, and of Vergillo's testimony w/Martinez. As far as the defense opening statements and what Mehrens said Chrisman's version of the story is...I don't find it believable. First of all, he sayd Virgillo was sitll on the phone when they were knocking on the door....I dont' buy that at all. I can't imagine a police officer, at the point of knocking on someone's door and about to enter, on a phone call. First of all, it would have been dangerous for him! They don't know what's behind the door for any call...why would he risk his life by being on the phone? Also, I'm sure that like Training 101, some basic training thing every officer knows. I believe Vergillo's version that he was on the phone walking up to the door, but when they got there and were about to knock, he told the guy he's gotta go bye.

Then, they get to the point with the pepper spray and Virgillo walks out to catch his breath, and Chrisman claims he stayed out there. Called to Chrisman to taser him. Chrisman tasers him, then either the tweets left something out, or it goes straight to Chrisman shooting the dog. Then Danny is reaching for Chrisman's gun, mad that he shot the dog. Then I guess there's another gap in tweeting, Chrisman says he had to shoot Danny 'cause Virgillo was outside and he had no help.

Ok first of all, why would Virgillo have continued to stay outside even AFTER HE HEARD A GUNSHOT GO OFF (gunshot killing the dog)??? If I'm understand correctly, Chrisman is trying to say that Virgillo was outside, he had no help and felt threatened, that's why he killed Danny....but it makes ZERO sense that Virgillo would be just standing nonchalantly outside even after he hears a GUNSHOT. Even if he was outside, he would have come inside immediately, and thus witnessed the deadly point of the shooting with Danny. And his witness testimony of the shooting does NOT match up with Chrisman's version. Then, the next problem with his story is that if he felt so threatened by Danny, who supposedly reached for his gun, then why does the physical evidence show that Danny was on his way outside WITH HIS BIKE?? Oh, so he was reaching for the gun and threatening Chrisman, at the same time as he was trying to flee with his bike??

All the physical evidence corroborates Virgillo's version and discounts Chrisman's version. Also, Chrisman is saying Virgillo was outside and that's why his taser was found outside? So what, was Virgillo attempting to taser Danny from several feet away?? That makes NO SENSE.

The bike is the biggest piece for me...it clearly shows Danny trying to flee. None of Chrisman's story makes any sense.
 
  • #142
Thanks geevee...I cannot believe he did that "joke" or whatever it was on that poor woman...just disgusting. I can understand why the judge is not letting it in, but I think if the jurors see that, it will make a big huge difference in how they view this case.

I went back to the first thread and I was reading the tweets of opening statements, and of Vergillo's testimony w/Martinez. As far as the defense opening statements and what Mehrens said Chrisman's version of the story is...I don't find it believable. First of all, he sayd Virgillo was sitll on the phone when they were knocking on the door....I dont' buy that at all. I can't imagine a police officer, at the point of knocking on someone's door and about to enter, on a phone call. First of all, it would have been dangerous for him! They don't know what's behind the door for any call...why would he risk his life by being on the phone? Also, I'm sure that like Training 101, some basic training thing every officer knows. I believe Vergillo's version that he was on the phone walking up to the door, but when they got there and were about to knock, he told the guy he's gotta go bye.

Then, they get to the point with the pepper spray and Virgillo walks out to catch his breath, and Chrisman claims he stayed out there. Called to Chrisman to taser him. Chrisman tasers him, then either the tweets left something out, or it goes straight to Chrisman shooting the dog. Then Danny is reaching for Chrisman's gun, mad that he shot the dog. Then I guess there's another gap in tweeting, Chrisman says he had to shoot Danny 'cause Virgillo was outside and he had no help.

Ok first of all, why would Virgillo have continued to stay outside even AFTER HE HEARD A GUNSHOT GO OFF (gunshot killing the dog)??? If I'm understand correctly, Chrisman is trying to say that Virgillo was outside, he had no help and felt threatened, that's why he killed Danny....but it makes ZERO sense that Virgillo would be just standing nonchalantly outside even after he hears a GUNSHOT. Even if he was outside, he would have come inside immediately, and thus witnessed the deadly point of the shooting with Danny. And his witness testimony of the shooting does NOT match up with Chrisman's version. Then, the next problem with his story is that if he felt so threatened by Danny, who supposedly reached for his gun, then why does the physical evidence show that Danny was on his way outside WITH HIS BIKE?? Oh, so he was reaching for the gun and threatening Chrisman, at the same time as he was trying to flee with his bike??

All the physical evidence corroborates Virgillo's version and discounts Chrisman's version. Also, Chrisman is saying Virgillo was outside and that's why his taser was found outside? So what, was Virgillo attempting to taser Danny from several feet away?? That makes NO SENSE.

The bike is the biggest piece for me...it clearly shows Danny trying to flee. None of Chrisman's story makes any sense.

There is some video from Virgillo's testimony, it's probably not complete but it may fill in some gaps in the tweets, I haven't had time to go through the earlier stuff and try to make a complete picture between tweets and vid but needs to be done, I keep getting distracted. lol

The defense even fought to keep out some of the crime scene pictures, saying there were too many and this and that, and I think you hit the why of that, the scene backs up Virgillo's version, nothing in it backs up RC's. And the bike is the biggest piece of evidence I think.
 
  • #143
MC Superior Court ‏@courtpio 21h Trial in State v. #RichardChrisman resumes on 9/3/2013 at 10:30 am. Hearing tomorrow at 3:00 pm on motions.
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Today at 3:00, maybe a tweeter will be there to clue us in.
 
  • #144
MC Superior Court ‏@courtpio 21h Trial in State v. #RichardChrisman resumes on 9/3/2013 at 10:30 am. Hearing tomorrow at 3:00 pm on motions.
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Today at 3:00, maybe a tweeter will be there to clue us in.

I love how in that last clip from the local ABC, Mehrens is accusing Juan of playing for the cameras and wanting drama -- guess that the new M.O. all the defense lawyers will use against him from now on. When they don't have anywhere to go, hey, let's just say Juan is fame-hungry!! So low.
 
  • #145
MC Superior Court ‏@courtpio 4h The State v Richard Chrisman motions hearing will not take place this afternoon due to a scheduling error.
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First thing Tues. morning?
 
  • #146
What I'm amazed about is that Juan must have been doing some prep for the Chrisman trial during the CMJA trial! That is just crazy...two high-profile cases so close together!
 
  • #147
Does anyone know yet if the testimony of Chrisman will be live streamed?
 
  • #148
No idea, one of the Divas said it would be but no official confirmation. We haven't even had delay stream since the day of the AS verdict and they accidentally live streamed most of that court day. Since then, and the Doody panning the jury flub, no camera or YTs. :(
 
  • #149
No idea, one of the Divas said it would be but no official confirmation. We haven't even had delay stream since the day of the AS verdict and they accidentally live streamed most of that court day. Since then, and the Doody panning the jury flub, no camera or YTs. :(

Is it for sure yet if Chrisman is testifying or not?

I want him to testify, but am surprised his lawyer is letting him do it. I think it will just hurt him in the end, esp. with Juan on cross.
 
  • #150
Hi does anyone know if the trial has started yet? I'm looking on Trial Divas, but it doesn't seem like she's tweeting anything on it yet.
 
  • #151
Lisette Martinez also has no tweets up yet....
 
  • #152
Is it for sure yet if Chrisman is testifying or not?

I want him to testify, but am surprised his lawyer is letting him do it. I think it will just hurt him in the end, esp. with Juan on cross.

Chrisman looked rather uncomfortable when Juan was crossing Dr. DiMaio. I think he saw the Cross of Things To Come!

Juan seems to get into a zone when he is in trial. I love how he crosses witnesses, especially when they are lying or hedging on the truth. He does not suffer fools, at all.

RC just needs to be truthful. Then he has nothing to worry about.
 
  • #153
Woohoo!!

Lissette Martin--
ez ‏@martinezliss 4m #richardchrisman on the stand today, I will be heading into court in a few, I'm sure it will be a packed courtroom @12News
 
  • #154
Corey Rangel ‏@CoreyABC15 8m Richard Chrisman's attorney tells me #Chrisman will testify during his trial today. The former cop is accused of murder while on the job.
 
  • #155
Corey Rangel ‏@CoreyABC15 8m Richard Chrisman's attorney tells me #Chrisman will testify during his trial today. The former cop is accused of murder while on the job.


I just saw this and was coming to post. I wonder if we will have a feed. Wishful thinking!

I wonder if we are near the end then. usually the defendant testifies last.
 
  • #156
I just saw this and was coming to post. I wonder if we will have a feed. Wishful thinking!

I wonder if we are near the end then. usually the defendant testifies last.

OMG, they have to have feed. i wish i could be in the courtroom to see Juan!!
 
  • #157
Can someone post the link to Lissette Martinez' twitter please? TIA.
 
  • #158
I haven't seen anyone mention the feed yet, I sure hope they don't leave all of us who cannot attend in person in the dark.
 
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