AZ AZ - Drake Kramer, 21, Grand Canyon National Park, 2 Feb 2015

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Search teams in Arizona combed an area Tuesday at the South Rim of Grand Canyon National Park after a San Antonio TX man was reported missing from the site, authorities said.

Drake L. Kramer, 21, of San Antonio, was reported missing by family Monday, said Kirby-Lynn Shedlowski, acting public affairs officer at Grand Canyon National Park.
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"We don't have a lot of information right now, but his last known location was in the developed area of the South Rim, which is pretty large," she said.
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Shedlowski said the park service currently is conducting a search and rescue operation for Kramer. She added that a missing persons investigation also is ongoing.
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much more at San Antonio Express-News: San Antonio man, 21, reported missing at Grand Canyon National Park

Kramer is described as 5 feet 7 inches tall, 140 pounds with brown hair and brown eyes. (azfamily.com)
 
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I can't seem to find any information regarding how he got to the park (does he have a car?) or who he was travelling with. He checked out of the Bright Angel Lodge on Sunday.
 
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"We don't have a lot of information right now, but his last known location was in the developed area of the South Rim, which is pretty large," she said.

For perspective, Shedlowski said a developed trail that runs along the South Rim is 14 miles long, "just along the rim. That flat trail is just one tiny portion."

Shedlowski said the park service currently is conducting a search and rescue operation for Kramer. She added that a missing persons investigation also is ongoing.

She asked that anyone who has information on Kramer’s whereabouts contact the park service’s Silent Witness Line at 928-638-7840.

Shedlowski said Kramer’s family is in Arizona, working with liaisons on the search team.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...ed-missing-at-Grand-6060097.php#photo-7478104
 
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When they said he "checked out" does that mean he left with his luggage or whatever he brought with him? Did he stay with anyone while he was there?What was his reason for being there? Did he have reservations for just the one night?...just more questions...any answers?
 
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"We don't have a lot of information right now, but his last known location was in the developed area of the South Rim, which is pretty large," she said.

For perspective, Shedlowski said a developed trail that runs along the South Rim is 14 miles long, "just along the rim. That flat trail is just one tiny portion."

Shedlowski said the park service currently is conducting a search and rescue operation for Kramer. She added that a missing persons investigation also is ongoing.

She asked that anyone who has information on Kramer’s whereabouts contact the park service’s Silent Witness Line at 928-638-7840.

Shedlowski said Kramer’s family is in Arizona, working with liaisons on the search team.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...ed-missing-at-Grand-6060097.php#photo-7478104

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http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Father-Son-in-good-spirits-before-being-6065512.php

The last time Robbin Kramer saw his son, Drake, they watched the film, "American Sniper," on Jan. 29. "He was in good spirits," the father said by telephone from northern Arizona on Thursday...

A series of text messages sparked concern for the family, who found out Sunday night that Drake Kramer had driven first to California and then the Grand Canyon. By Monday, the student sent a group text saying he "loved everybody and said he had to give his body to Mother Earth," his father said...

Authorities found Drake Kramer's car at the Bright Angel Lodge, where he checked in Saturday and checked out Sunday. "It's not like him to travel by himself," Robbin Kramer said, though they believe he did travel alone.
 
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So it seems he might be suicidal and has gone to a place he feels comfortable in..I wonder if he's in a cave. I'm sure there was more info in the texts that weren't released to the public.
 
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So it seems he might be suicidal and has gone to a place he feels comfortable in..I wonder if he's in a cave. I'm sure there was more info in the texts that weren't released to the public.

I find it interesting that he wanted to study geology and of course the Grand Canyon is fascinating -- His family is searching his 'favorite places' there and I hope that they find him ''sooner'' rather than later.

21 is a tough age for sure ...... praying for a positive outcome......
 
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I hope he didn't go there to harm himself but the text makes me think so. Hopefully searchers can find him unharmed. I can't imagine being "lost" at the Grand Canyon, it's such an enormous area to search.

Why would he do this? He seems excited (FB) to be transitioning to UTSA for geology. Seems fitting. :/
 
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Sounds like a suicide to me. Since he wanted to give his body to Mother Earth, I have to assume that means he didn't want to be found, otherwise how would his body end up back with Mother earth ? He may have hiked for hours back into those canyons, maybe even a whole day.

They will find him......eventually.
 
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Not directly related to this case, but I found it interesting given that this youngster is missing in a national park.
Dale Strehling's Disappearance and the Need to Track People Who Vanish on Federal Land
The size and scope of federal land holdings in this country -- including national parks, monuments and more -- is so vast that people can venture into them and literally disappear. Note the case of Dale Strehling, who went for a hike in Mesa Verde circa June 2013 and hasn't been seen since. Yet there's currently no national database for missing persons -- and a Regis University instructor would like to change that.
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2015/02/dale_strehling_missing_federal_land_database.php
 
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Sounds like a suicide to me. Since he wanted to give his body to Mother Earth, I have to assume that means he didn't want to be found, otherwise how would his body end up back with Mother earth ? He may have hiked for hours back into those canyons, maybe even a whole day.

They will find him......eventually.

I absolutely agree. There was a reference to "Into The Wild" in a FB message with his brother. Classes started at UTSA Jan. 12. I don't think he planned on finishing the semester. JMO.
 
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*bumping*
 
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