AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #1

[NewMommy09]

Maybe someone has the baby and the car and has headed into Mexico?

This was one of my first thoughts too on this case.
It wouldn't be too much of a drive from San Antonio to get to the border.

According to this link, only 150 miles to the Mexico border from San Antonio. I assume from a starting point in downtown SA.
http://www.usatourist.com/english/places/texas/sanantonio.html

 

[mysticrose]

In this video the aunt is talking about the dad threating to take the child and leave mom in the desert. That is a pretty serious threat dontcha think ? I wish we knew more about mom and the relationship with this dad. The parents not cooperating with authorities has me believeing that baby Gab. is ok. I believe there is more to this story that has not come out yet. The aunt claims mom will sit in jail in order to protect the baby ? Now do we have a Drama Queen on our hands or real concern for the childs safety ? It would seem her parents have some concern. Here is the link to the video I am refering to:

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_863.shtml

 

[NewMommy09]

http://www.woai.com/media/lib/12/c/...-ab91-26ce689085f8/12_31_09_Missing_Child.pdf

Official Media Release from the Tempe Police Dept. requesting public's assistance locating Gabe. First contact with EJ was 10 PM on the 30th. This report states Investigation has revealed that Elizabeth was in San Antonio, TX from December 22, 2009
through December 27, 2009 with Gabriel. There have been no signs of Gabriel after
December 26, 2009.

Not really anything new, just linking since it's an official release.

Edited to add: Looks like Logan has a Classmates.com profile but I'm blocked at work.
Looks like he may have graduated in 2004 from Kachina Country Day School. Just posting what I find to help with any possible sleuthing on this.

I don't know what to think at this point. If the father truly said he would take the child and leave EJ in the desert, I can't blame her for trying to protect her child. I would sit in jail the rest of my life with my mouth shut if it meant my son could live a somewhat happy and safe life if those threats were made to me. But at the same time, neither parent seems to be a truly "stand up citizen". I'm fence sitting on this one.

 

[mysticrose]

Just speaking for myself here, if I thought for one moment that my childs saftey was an issue I would hide my child and sit in jail. I have seen first hand the bad decesions that Judges can and do make in regards to children. I had a lawyer at one time advise me to leave the country with my son and not look back, pretty much because he could see what was going on and it was not good. I did not and 8 years later the ex just abandoned everything which I knew he would do eventually because he does not love my son just using him to get back at me, he also is not his biological dad and I was denied paternity, later found out the ex was good friends with the Judge...Go figure. $ 45,000 later in legal fees and 8 years of grief my son is finally safe...Sorry for OT I just know what I would be willing to do for my child certainly not saying this is the case here but years can go by through our courts and not always the best for our children...

 

[NewMommy09]

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/s...infant/xgsbK2cK80iD5ZWBC0ifjg.cspx?p=Comments

Interesting comment made here on Jan. 1st from someone claiming to know EJ.
Talks about her being bi-polar and not taking her meds, and how two months ago the police were called to the apt. due to breaking glass and EJ screaming, neighbors thought she was fighting with baby's dad. He wasn't there and only came home from work after police arrived. She was there alone with Gabe. This comment says that EJ will not tell police where Gabe is, just that she killed him. (Not sure where that info came from).

Not putting too much on a random comment from an anonymous person for now. But if this is true, I'm scared as hell for baby Gabe. God protect him, PLEASE!!!

 

[not_my_kids]

I can see having compassion for the mother based on the statements made, but bear in mind, the state did give custody to the father.
Initially, they were both missing, and if LE had uncovered anything dangerous in his past or demeanor or any real intention behind the threats, he would have been in jail until they both turned up. That didn't happen.
The judge saw fit to give the father custody and the police saw fit to make public her past threats. There's a reason for that too.
And let's not forget that we only hear this "Good mother, protecting the baby" line from someone that apparently has a reason to be angry at Logan and has a reason to keep themselves in her good graces, even now.
Complete Moo.

 

[mysticrose]

I know what you are saying NMK. IMO the reason Dad got custody is because mom did not show up for the most part. My aunt got full sole custody of her son because dad failed to show.
EJ here most certainly could have a screw loose, and I am not defending her in anyway. I am sure the statement about the threat came directly from her mouth so should be taken with a grain of salt, and you know parents they have a tendency to side with their blood...
I just certainly hope Gabe is allright ..

 

[momtective]

If Elizabeth went the adoption route (and I pray she did) I wonder if it would be worth checking adoption situations online. I wonder if maybe that is how she made contact with the adoptive parent/s or if she had an adoption facilitator (Tammi?).

 

[iluvmua]

What I want to know is why EJ's parents are not cooperating with the police?
All the police want to know is where Gabriel is located.

 

[Kamille]

What I want to know is why EJ's parents are not cooperating with the police?
All the police want to know is where Gabriel is located.

I hate to say it but I bet the Anthony's wish they hadn't co-operated with the police in the beginning either. Depending on what has happened, anything EJ's parents say at this point may be used against her later?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I see your point Kamille, but, I'd like to think I would care more about my innocent 8 month old grand baby's safety than my 20 something year old daughters jail time.

 

[NewMommy09]

I can see having compassion for the mother based on the statements made, but bear in mind, the state did give custody to the father.
Initially, they were both missing, and if LE had uncovered anything dangerous in his past or demeanor or any real intention behind the threats, he would have been in jail until they both turned up. That didn't happen.
The judge saw fit to give the father custody and the police saw fit to make public her past threats. There's a reason for that too.
And let's not forget that we only hear this "Good mother, protecting the baby" line from someone that apparently has a reason to be angry at Logan and has a reason to keep themselves in her good graces, even now.
Complete Moo.

I definitely see where you're going with this. In this case, it just seems there is a lot of rumor and not a lot of fact. Also, while I try to believe in our courts, CPS and justice systems, I have seen all 3 let people down before. I feel like I can't do anything but fence sit on this one until we have more info.

 

[Kamille]

I see your point Kamille, but, I'd like to think I would care more about my innocent 8 month old grand baby's safety than my 20 something year old daughters jail time.

I believe most people would like to think that they'd do anything for the innocent baby, regardless of the consequences for your own adult child...and I think most people would. But apparently, there are some who don't.

 

[January.]

Has it been said why she was going to lose custody? Was it because of the threats she made about harming him or something else? I've read through this whole thread, but I either missed that or they never actually came out and said the reason for the custody hearing.

 

[dnrslucky1]

She could just be selfish. My niece had two sons and never cared for them. My sister and I both offered to take them, but also wanted custody so she could not just show up and take them.

She refused, saying we just wanted her babies and she was keeping them. I remember my mother telling me to just offer to babysit and she will never come to pick them up. I could not do that, I needed to be certain she could not take them away.

My mother still has one of the boys, now 10 years old. He is her Great Grandson. She is 73 years old, healthy, but the boy is spoiled rotten!

My nephew has the other boy, who is now 6 years old. They live in an old run down trailer.

No one gets child support because they are still babysitting! I feel terrible for the boys, but can't do anything!

 

[Kamille]

Has it been said why she was going to lose custody? Was it because of the threats she made about harming him or something else? I've read through this whole thread, but I either missed that or they never actually came out and said the reason for the custody hearing.

Some info about the threats and her losing custody.


The drama began Dec. 27, when the boy's father, Logan McQueary, 25, told police Johnson threatened to hurt the boy. Police then began searching for the mother and son for a welfare check, since the mother still had joint custody.



The next day, Johnson didn't show up for a scheduled custody hearing the next day in Maricopa County Superior Court, and the father was automatically given custody. A nationwide warrant was immediately issued for Johnson.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/01/04/20100104tr-missingbaby0106.html

What I'm curious about is the Dec 27th date. Does that mean she called with these threats after she no longer had the baby with her or just before?

 

[iluvmua]

So now she wants a lawyer? why not save EVERYONE the trouble and tell where your kid is at.

with people like these I just want to :banghead:

 

[des01]

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/149100

anyone else see this yet? I hope this isnt true

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/149100

anyone else see this yet? I hope this isnt true

OMG - this sounds bad.
So she told the father she killed him and put him in a dumpster :furious:

Also, this article gives a lot of info on her previous crazyness. Looks like she never bonded with this child and pretty much hated him.

So sad.

 

[iluvmua]

Elizabeth Johnson is another Casey.