AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #1

[fhc]

http://www.justnews.com/news/22119917/detail.html

Did the link work?

Yes Thank you. I hope some video will be released of her court appearance. Could she be doing the Casey strut and smirk?

 

[iluvmua]

Yes Thank you. I hope some video will be released of her court appearance. Could she be doing the Casey strut and smirk?

I hope we get to see the court video too.

I hope she gets locked up for a long time, she does not need to be walking the streets. she soulds like a ticking time bomb.

If she hurt/killed her child who knows what she is capable of doing to other people.

 

[not_my_kids]

Maybe she was at the hostel because she ran out of options, and had no car to get her across the border. Or she never intended to cross, but she knows Gabriel did.
Or her safety net of friends for herself was in Fl and they abandoned her, or stole the car...she couldn't exactly call 911 if someone did steal her car.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think she sold the car and the baby.
Just my feelings right now.

IMO she wanted a fresh start. Got rid of everything she had, including her precious baby boy.

Makes my blood boil.

 

[not_my_kids]

Im curious about her myspace comment from VL "Tell me about your new life"
Obviously she wasn't cut off from everyone.

And we don't know that what happened to Gabe happened in TX. Just that she was last seen with him in TX and then alone in FL. She could have gotten him to FL and gotten rid of him before being seen by anyone there.

There are way too many questions.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I thought LE said they are certain she left Texas without Gabe?
I'll dig to see if I find a link.

 

[not_my_kids]

I know they said that...but how are they sure? Becuase of what she said, the texts, eyewitnesses, what?

I'm taking even LE with a grain of salt until they give me something I can use. As we have seen, LE is usually woefully unprepared to handle child trafficking.

 

[momtective]

I'd like to know how LE knows she was at that park, who saw her, was the baby with her, was the car with her.

I'd like to know how she paid for the hotels, debit card, credit card, cash and in whose name was the reservation in. When was the reservation made and by who?

I'd like to know how LE knew she was headed to Fl. who was she in contact with that had that information?

I'd like to know if the airlines have been checked to see if she flew from San Antonio to Fl. The San Antonio Int'l airport is only 11 miles up the highway from the hotels she stayed in.

I'd like to know if the airport parking garages have been checked for the car and also if there are any lakes near the hotels that she might have driven the car into. I've looked on google maps and didn't see any water near the hotels at all.

I'd like to know why, after the cutting up of clothing and destroying of the apartment she was ever allowed to be anywhere near this baby. She should have been arrested or committed after that incident alone.

I'm seeing this from an entirely new prospective since I have a daughter in law just like her. My son went through the same hell where his kids were concerned, he'd go to work and come home only to find the baby still in the crib, unfed and unchanged for the entire day. If he called the police on her she'd scratch herself, slam herself into the wall and then claim he beat her. She was/is so sick mentally and very, very scary...we literally walk on egg shells around her just to be able to see our granddaughters.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The FBI says they are positive Johnson left without her son.

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/

Video at link has more info! I have to listen a few times so I can transcribe it accurately. Will post transcription snippets in a few!

ETA:

Transcribed:

It is unthinkable that a mother would hurt her own child.

But tonight the FBI and authorities... can't say if 23 year old Elizabeth Johnson killed her child or simply gave him away

Elizabeth has made threats to harm Gabriel in the past

Johnson's *hometown* of Tempe AZ

Paraphrased:

FBI confirmed to news station:
Eliz and Gabriel came to town to San Antonio on Dec 22
Eliz left San Antonio on *Dec 26* (differs from all other reports of leaving Dec 27

Tempe PD confirmed last time Gabriel seen in San Antonio was at a park near Fiesta TX on Dec 26. Sign for park in background where reporter is standing:
Raymond Russell County Park

More in a few!

ETA: at 01:00 in the video are pics of the youth hostel on Miami Beach FL where she was arrested. Sign says: 230 20th St. IFH International Fun Hostel

More again in a minute!

BBM

This is where I saw that NMK.
But, link no longer goes to that article.

 

[Kamille]

I know they said that...but how are they sure? Becuase of what she said, the texts, eyewitnesses, what?

I'm taking even LE with a grain of salt until they give me something I can use. As we have seen, LE is usually woefully unprepared to handle child trafficking.

Perhaps she did fly from Texas to Florida, LE has this information, and the passenger list only had her listed?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

They said she stayed with unknown people for a few nights with Gabe and then one night without Gabe, then she left.
So, I think whoever she was staying with is talking.
I bet they told LE she was on her way to Florida.

 

[not_my_kids]

I am having a brain fart.
She leaves San Antonio, TX allegedly without Gabe.
She then is quickly arrested in FL.

LE says she was seen with Gabe at the park in TX and then they got a tip leading them to the FL hostel...
Who saw them? WHo gave them the tip?
Same person, different people?
Did the person that saw them at the park call LE, or did LE have to track them down?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...en_US&orgPrefix=NCMC&caseNum=1137894&seqNum=1

On the bottom, this says he was abducted on 12/28?

Snipped:
Circumstances: Gabriel was abducted by his mother on December 28, 2009. Gabriel's mother was arrested in Miami Beach, Florida for Custodial Interference on December 30, 2009. At the time of the abduction, she was driving a white 1995 Oldsmobile Delta 88 with Arizona license plates AGZ4214. The current location of the vehicle is unknown and the child is still missing.

 

[not_my_kids]

Technically she couldn't abduct him until she no longer had custody, so it wasn't an abduction until after the court hearing that she missed.

 

[Kamille]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...en_US&orgPrefix=NCMC&caseNum=1137894&seqNum=1

On the bottom, this says he was abducted on 12/28?

Snipped:
Circumstances: Gabriel was abducted by his mother on December 28, 2009. Gabriel's mother was arrested in Miami Beach, Florida for Custodial Interference on December 30, 2009. At the time of the abduction, she was driving a white 1995 Oldsmobile Delta 88 with Arizona license plates AGZ4214. The current location of the vehicle is unknown and the child is still missing.

Prior to that she still had split custody so he wouldn't have been considered "abducted" until she lost all custody on the 28th.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Oh, I get it. Thanks y'all.

 

[BeanE]

BBM

This is where I saw that NMK.
But, link no longer goes to that article.

It's here:

http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_853.shtml

 

[LadyL]

oh dear god, please don't let her have hurt this precious baby. Please if anyone has him, guide them to call the police immediately. Please bless and protect this precious child.

She's had dcfs involved. She sounds like a raving lunatic with a major out of control anger and violence issue toward that baby. Why in god's name did they allow her anywhere near him.

When are we going to value our babies and children more than these animals? We fail them again and again and again. One after another. Hurt emotionally. Hurt physically. Or murdered in the most atrocious ways.

These babies and children are human beings with rights. The right to be unharmed physically and emotionally, and to have at least their basic needs met.

When will we value them enough to protect them?

Gabriel, i am so sorry. There are no excuses for this. You deserve much better.

God protect this baby. Bring him back alive and unharmed. Let him be with a family who will protect and care for him.

/end rant

amen!

 

[LadyL]

What I am wondering is if the "friend" that had Gab the first time is Miss TammiFay?:waitasec:

Still holding out hope that he is ok.

omg - I didn't even think of that

 

[LadyL]

Well she had access to her myspace on Dec 29th so can we assume she had made it to Florida then? Maybe that's how they caught up to her. Did she use internet or her phone to post I wonder?

she could've logged in anywhere ... interent cafe, library, laptop w/ wireless - probably phone though

eta: maybe not phone after I read nmk's post about the 'from mobile' tag