AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #10

[not_my_kids]

TPS is changing her story again. Now says she gave the baby to EJ to take him to see Logan and then when they went to pick Gabe back up from EJ, neither of them were there. Logan apparently helped them find EJ in San Antonio...
So, I guess this is why they all of a sudden want him to have prayer. He's such a good person for helping them find his own son.
Just sick.

 

[not_my_kids]

Uh oh. Okay. I won't discuss except for the portions in the NG transcripts? Those should be okay?

If they have a transcript, I know it's okay.
Like I said I'm confused on that one myself.
Why oh why don't we have a nice simple itemized list of what we need to have for a source before it can be discussed.

I have no real clue...just that it's typically been, no link=no talk.

But on this I could be wrong. I spent a long time figuring out the FB and MS rules...not so much on the email rules. :banghead::banghead:

It might be okay, since we are allowed to discuss other things that were put in the FB comments, later deleted or not.
I have now given myself a headache...

 

[amysmom]

TPS is changing her story again. Now says she gave the baby to EJ to take him to see Logan and then when they went to pick Gabe back up from EJ, neither of them were there. Logan apparently helped them find EJ in San Antonio...
So, I guess this is why they all of a sudden want him to have prayer. He's such a good person for helping them find his own son.
Just sick.

Is Logan confirming or denying what T's been saying? I haven't seen anything from him lately (may have missed it) but it would help a lot if he was talking!

 

[passionflower]

Did EJ take those pics to 'show' adopted people, she had a healthy baby to sell?
or were these to be his last photos for her?
Wonder if there are more?
He doesn't look skinny to me on that day..........just long.
BUT a baby can go skinny from dehydration real quick....for babysitter???
Babysitter may be used to short fat babies..........I had both myself.

 

[BeanE]

BeanE - so sorry, but I missed this and have not been able to read all the posts yet, so I'm missing some pages here. BUT... are we sure the text (or was it an email) actually came from EJ? It must have been a text, because she probaby didn't have email service in FL right? And if it was a text, then she had her phone with her.

I agree 100% with your take on this text/email. Very strange, why wouldn't EJ just tell TPS that Gabe was with another family? Do you think it might have been code for TPS to put part 2 of Plan B into action? (I'm speculating - I have NO idea if there was a Plan A/B or any plan at all. :crazy

I am still confused about the cell phone. The first articles on the new pics of Gabe said they came from the phone, but then that was corrected to say the pics came from a camera that LE confiscated - so I still don't know if LE has EJ's phone or not?

Salem

Tammi and NG have referred to it as both a text and an email. I really don't know. Eliz refers to it as an email, so prolly email?

I don't think it's code. Could be, but I just don't think so.

There's a possibility also that Tammi has altered these messages. It would be foolish, but I don't think that bothers very much lol.

I'm not clear on whether it was a cell camera or a camera. I wish we knew if LE has her cell. :banghead:

 

[not_my_kids]

Is Logan confirming or denying what T's been saying? I haven't seen anything from him lately (may have missed it) but it would help a lot if he was talking!

Logan is smart enough to keep his face out of the circus.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Logan would have to contact Tim personally and ask for assistance, so if anyone on here knows Logan personally it might be a good idea to pass this along. This would be the link to find out info on Tim's highly reputable search organization and the phone number to call.
Even if Gabriel was given to another couple, it couldn't hurt to get TES involved.

http://texasequusearch.org/

 

[what about this?]

I'm still trying to catch up, but does anyone else think it is not by coincidence (don't believe in it anyway) that LE released these pictures the day after the babysitter came out with her ludicrous story?

This may be way out there, but maybe LE put these out there to refute the Tammi/babysitter attempted scam?

Just putting that out there.

 

[Amster]

I deleted my question about the e-mails.

Is it possible to make up fake e-mails with date and time, etc.?

 

[not_my_kids]

People on FB are fianlly starting to question why TPS only answers the parts of the questions that she likes.
With her personality disorder (I really do believe she has one) she needs the FB page to practice her answers, but it could also make her snap. It might be what makes her realize that she can never tell a big enough lie to make all the other lies fit.

The meltdown will be comical.

 

[not_my_kids]

I deleted my question about the e-mails.

Is it possible to make up fake e-mails with date and time, etc.?

Casey did it.

 

[BeanE]

Is Logan confirming or denying what T's been saying? I haven't seen anything from him lately (may have missed it) but it would help a lot if he was talking!

LE told him not to talk. I'm glad he's complying. He's a good daddy, a good man, and I admire him greatly.

 

[Amster]

Casey did it.

Thanks

 

[mum]

Did EJ take those pics to 'show' adopted people, she had a healthy baby to sell?
or were these to be his last photos for her?
Wonder if there are more?
He doesn't look skinny to me on that day..........just long.
BUT a baby can go skinny from dehydration real quick....for babysitter???
Babysitter may be used to short fat babies..........I had both myself.

What I am reading is the babysitter was there on the 23rd and the photos are timestamped the 26th?

 

[fhc]

Questions

Could the new jammies, toys and book have come from the 'underground' or abuse shelters, where ever EJ and Baby Gabriel stayed on their way to TX or in San Antonio?

Would you take pictures of your baby dirty or being neglected?

Why was she taking pictures of Baby Gabriel? What was her purpose or motivation?

 

[Amster]

I searched and searched for a medicine dispenser that looks like the one in the pic of Gabe. No luck. Someone said it is possibly a see through block....I hope so. I just had a horrible feeling, when I saw those pics, that these were of Gabe being OD'd and were meant for Logan.

 

[mum]

I deleted my question about the e-mails.

Is it possible to make up fake e-mails with date and time, etc.?

Yes, and TPS answer to why she had someone else place the msg's on her FB was lame, who doesn't know how to copy and paste?

 

[~PrinceSSa~]

I believe the photos of Gabriel came from a camera rather than a cellphone. I believe this because I KNOW a camera will timestamp the pics. Not sure if a phone has that option.

Logan is very smart to stay out of the limelight. He will answer back if you e-mail him.

 

[not_my_kids]

I don't think the babysitter is smart enough to tell a good lie.

On the other hand, I don't think that she is being paid off.

I am beginning to doubt if the blond and baby that she saw were ever EJ and Gabe.

 

[mum]

Questions

Could the new jammies, toys and book have come from the 'underground' or abuse shelters, where ever EJ and Baby Gabriel stayed on their way to TX or in San Antonio?

Would you take pictures of your baby dirty or being neglected?

Why was she taking pictures of Baby Gabriel? What was her purpose or motivation?

The last pic had him in doggie jammies, and TPS has pic with him in those same ones.